Atheist Bible

[Ignignoct]

Beef's been squashed, everyone go back to your homes. Nothing to see here. Atheists will acknowledge the goodness of Christians who are kind and understanding, and vice-versa.

Good to know that there are people who can say that and mean it!
Cheers!

P.S. I want some of the Peanut Butter Cups...they are my favourite.

BRB Wal-Mart!

Expect delivery in 3-6 weeks.

 

[traceur_]

You think we have no morals because we don't believe your morals, morals that were set forth by an omnipotent puppet master. We do not believe in any singular set of morals for we are without a common creed, each of us chooses our own morals. You think you are the only one wise enough to grasp what right and wrong are? "believe in some invisible moral force that everyone supposedly should adhere to. No such thing as right and wrong in that world view" what world view exactly are you referring to? As i have said each of us chooses our own morals so how can you say we don't know what right and wrong are, I don't think that each of us has given you a list of what we think is right and wrong so how can you pass judgment on our morals when you do not know what they are? You truly are a fool if you would pass judgment on me without ever having known me.

Easy tiger! I never said atheists can't have morality or morals, I'm only saying there is no basis for it. You certainly can judge for yourself what right or wrong is, but to assume that there is a universal moral framework in an amoral universe is silly.

And in a naturalist worldview, where there is no god or anything 'supernatural' (That means spiritualism is out), there is no such thing as right or wrong. It's completely subjective. You could say 'stealing is wrong' and someone else could say 'stealing is ok'. Who is wrong? Who is right? You yourself said that we judge for ourselves what right and wrong is, so what happens when opposing judgments of morality collide?

And, finally, I never passed judgment on you. I never said you, or anyone else, was immoral or evil or anything of the sort. I simply said there is no basis for morality in a naturalist worldview, and no such thing as a universal moral framework in said worldview.

i apologize for the level of aggression in the post to which you are referring, what I don't understand is this:

"You certainly can judge for yourself what right or wrong is, but to assume that there is a universal moral framework in an amoral universe is silly."

We do no not believe there is a universal moral framework, we each construct our own framework, though the materials used in that construction are in part supplied by our education, upbringing and experience, the method of construction is up to us.

When you say we have no basis for our morals, what exactly do you mean? The basis for my own utilitarian views is my desire to be practical in all my endeavors.

 

[mike1921]

NO ATHEIST BIBLE! atheism shouldn't be organized by anything except a lack of a believe in a higher being.

maybe it could be the words "no higher power exists" repeated for the course of the bible.

If I were to write it, it'd be that and "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."-benjamin franklin. Just because I love that quote so much.

 

[anNIALLator]

Read anything by Darwin. How dare he be all logical and practical.. the douche.

Random fact: Darwin was Catholic, and trained for priesthood before traveling to the Galapagos islands. still practiced after he wrote his theory too

I don't think that's true. Maybe he attended church with his family as Emma was religious but I don't think he was.

 

[Ignignoct]

Read anything by Darwin. How dare he be all logical and practical.. the douche.

Random fact: Darwin was Catholic, and trained for priesthood before traveling to the Galapagos islands. still practiced after he wrote his theory too

I don't think that's true. Maybe he attended church with his family as Emma was religious but I don't think he was.

His wife was, he wasn't.

He specifically tailored his book to be nice and try to dance around the God idea so it wouldn't offend her too much.

 

[sokka14]

It's still called Atheism. Atheists do believe a higher power is POSSIBLE, but in the same respect they believe dragons are possible, as they can't be proved or disproved. Atheists merely choose not to live their lives based on the teaching of dragons.

Calling yourself an agnostic wouldn't be wrong either.

Mkay thanks! I am glad I know what I am, but honestly I am fine with anyone believing what they want to believe. If someone says we are all part of some alien experiment, or something as not probable as Scientology, I am fine with it. I think anyone can believe in whatever they want, so long as they don't try to force it upon others.

that's just called being tolerant. it has no bearing on your actual beliefs

 

[Hoxton]

personaly I consider myself an atheist. i don't believe in a higher power, and frankly i don't care. Look around you, even if there were a god he is definedly not with us any more. And yeah religion IS undoubtedly a way to lead the masses.
It's a great hypocricy telling everyone that you believe in something (eg christian god) and do shit all your life and when you're old go to church everyday and play the good old fart.
that's pure bullshit. Buhdism on the other hand does not have gods, the names of 'gods' are only to specify a state of mind. And it's very interesting how everyone remembers god only when they need someone to curse or beg (for any reason)

If you think that something is wrong with the world and you need a reason, Just look in the mirror.
(sorry for the spelling)