Atheists. Its time to turn the spotlight on you.

[Cakes]

I converted from Christianity to nothing when I was 11...

Great. Now, 'the hell did that have to do with my post, and why did you see fit to quote the whole damn thing?

EDIT: Ninja'd. Damn you, Cakes! I thought you were a lie.

He strikes again!

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

I converted from Christianity to nothing when I was 11...

Great. Now, 'the hell did that have to do with my post, and why did you see fit to quote the whole damn thing?

Oh, sorry, I spaced and thought I was responding to the person that said young kids couldn't decide for themselves

 

[Cakes]

I converted from Christianity to nothing when I was 11...

Great. Now, 'the hell did that have to do with my post, and why did you see fit to quote the whole damn thing?

Oh, sorry, I spaced and thought I was responding to the person that said young kids couldn't decide for themselves

Ah, okay. We all make mistakes. I've been known to make one or two.

 

[sneakypenguin]

I wonder if an atheist would let their 8 year old kid go to a church. I would say prolly not. But I doubt anyone here would come out and say it.

i doubt they would and even if they did they would make fun of it and by that not really give the child the chance to choose for themselves.

Yep, kinda sad one side criticizes Christians for "forcing" their beliefs on kids then they would turn around and do the same thing to their kids


{sarcasm} but it's okay to do that cause believing in God is stupid{/sarcasm}

 

[Pimppeter2]

Nah, not really. This all reads like 'butthurt Christian whines about athiests uh-BAW!!'

Fuck you buddy. I'm not whineing about atheists. Im trying to show Atheists how to understand Christians. Because about 5 mins before this thread I gurantee you 100+ people were talking about how wrong it is for christians to "force" their religion on their kids. Without considereing how it really works.

So I'll take your post as what it really is

Asshole troll comes out from underbridge to act like a dumbass

 

[Nifty]

I'd just leave it until my kid came out and told me they were becoming religious. Then I'd just have a little chat with them about the philosophical problem of evil. I'm pretty sure that would soon change their tune.

 

[Cakes]

You have to admit, odds are against a 5 year old comming up to daddy and telling him he belives in a false god or that his belief in the lack of a god is stupid.

I also call dogs "it", unless its sack is swinging all over the place

All I got out of this post is that you think kids are dogs. You heartless bastard.

I intend to raise them secular, so I guess it's more likely they'll end up atheist, but it's not a given. I think raising them at least kind-of neutral is better than going either end of the shit-spectrum, since from that point they can go wherever they want.

 

[Russian_Assassin]

Surprisingly we seem to share the same kind of "religion". Kinda christian, but with many doubts. Anyways, I will teach my kid what God is, but he/she will decide himself/herself whether or not to believe. Depends on the personality of the child, which is the case with me. I am doubting religion, because the concept of a mighty ruler sitting in the clouds feeling too important to prove it's existence seems a bit too iffy to me.

I could be wrong though, since I just spontaneously combusted.

 

[Sindaine]

Mnope, still just whining, only now you're defensive about it. Thanks for playing though.

 

[Worsle]

We agnostics are never in the spotlight.

God(If he exists)dammit.

Why would agnostics be in the stop light? Any one who is fully agnostic has completely removed them selves from any debate. Now if you are mostly agnostic with leanings to one side or the other you will just be lumped in with every one else. Its not like atheists are a uniform entity anyway, plenty of agnostic atheists out there. In fact I would think most people who call them selves atheists would qualify as at least being some what of an agnostic atheist.

As to the topic at hand those are some silly questions. Also its not like most christians bring their children to church these days so why should any one else be going?

 

[Shapsters]

Do Atheist parents have the right to force Atheism on their children?
Yes, religious people force religions on their children.

How many of you will raise your child not to believe in a god?
I will be raising my children to not believe in god becuase I think it is utter hogwash.

How many of you will raise your child with knowledge of God? (Without making fun of it while you teach it.)
Again why would I give them knowledge of something that is a load of bullshit?

How many of you will take your children to church?
Why would I do something like this? Hey kids lets go to a big boring building where we learn about an invisible almighty man.

How many of you will raise your children to make their own decision, like you had?
I wasn't raised to make my own choice, I was raised that religion is bullshit, which I am happy about. I cannot think of a better way to be raised so that is how my children shall be raised.

How many think that your child will be Atheist?
I sincerely hope that they will be, and will be quite upset if they are religious.

Let's be honest. No matter what you do, your child will almost certainly be Atheist. Because thats the house hold they grew up in. So did you think you forced it on them?
Yes, they hopefully will be Atheist and I will force atheism upon my children as much as religious people force religion upon their children.

 

[Cakes]

Well, you could hand them a book on evolution.

Evolution isn't in and of itself an atheistic concept. Besides, there are plenty of books on atheism...just don't give them one by that asshole Dawkins.

I myself wouldn't push it on them, I'd just show them some of the horrible stuff in the world and ask them if they think someone who could stop this and was nice would let this happen. For instance, I would show them a bunch of reports on animal abuse if they loved animals. I'd show them stuff on child abuse and I would teach them about wars caused by religion.

Damn, that's pretty harsh, but fine I guess. Though, it's sort of unfair to bring up "look how many wars religion started", since it's not a particularly good argument against religion. Stupid people kill each other, that's just how it goes. Creationists are also fond of going on about "well look how evolution led to the Holocaust" or some stupid shit.

 

[Puzzles]

I honestly have no reason to talk about religion in my household.

It never did me a bit of good, nor my parents, so when I was growing up it wasn't even mentioned. This was not because they didn't want me to know about religion, they (and me by the age of 7-8) couldn't care less what a bunch of wackos did on sundays together. My life was obviously very fine without this retarded concept, and I just couldn't believe some of the inane ideas they were throwing about.

 

[Cakes]

Nah, not really. This all reads like 'butthurt Christian whines about athiests uh-BAW!!'

Fuck you buddy. I'm not whineing about atheists. Im trying to show Atheists how to understand Christians. Because about 5 mins before this thread I gurantee you 100+ people were talking about how wrong it is for christians to "force" their religion on their kids. Without considereing how it really works.

So I'll take your post as what it really is

Asshole troll comes out from underbridge to act like a dumbass

I'm guessing he's just your typical angstheist. Don't pay attention to these douchebags, and maybe they'll all go away.

 

[Pimppeter2]

Well, you could hand them a book on evolution. I myself wouldn't push it on them, I'd just show them some of the horrible stuff in the world and ask them if they think someone who could stop this and was nice would let this happen. For instance, I would show them a bunch of reports on animal abuse if they loved animals. I'd show them stuff on child abuse and I would teach them about wars caused by religion.

You mean a science textbook?
They'd hopefully learn that in school.
Actually, that's a lie. I went to school.
As far as I can recall, they never even mentioned evolution.

But that may just be a failing in the school systems here.

Thats actually pretty strange. Where do you live?

In chicago public schools are required to teach evolution, though kids with parents who have sticks up their asses and are afraid of knowledge don't have to attend. We don't cover religion that much. Other than briefly while studing Rome. And mostly church politics rather than beliefs in th middle ages

I also call dogs "it", unless its sack is swinging all over the place

All I got out of this post is that you think kids are dogs. You heartless bastard

At least you don't have to put a dog through school.

jk. But Im uncomfortable, because I don't know the sex and Imight call a boy a girl. Awkward.

Ohh, and all beasts are it. And some small children. Mostly rambunctious boys.

 

[Link Kadeshi]

Try answering the question.

Atheists
That is not a question.

Do Atheist parents have the right to force Atheism on their children?
Do religious parents have the right to force their belief on their children?
The best answer I can give to this is that I will instill the values I have as best I can, and let them find what they percieve as the "truth". If I agree with them, then so be it, I will treat their views the way I treat any other. Opinion.

How many of you will raise your child not to belive in a god?
I'm sorry, I don't know how many people will raise their children one belief or another. If you would like to know if I will, then here ya go: I will not tell my child there is or is not a god (Lower case as it is not meant as a name here). If my son/daughter wishes to believe the Sun is a god, it's their choice, at least it has tangible proof as to it's existance.

How many of you will raise your child with knowledge of God? (Without making fun of it while you teach it.)
Once again, I don't have numbers, I doubt anyone knows how many will or wont. If I am to allow them to make their own decision, why am I teaching them only your Christan god? Might as well teach them about the Roman gods too. Sorry, I don't have time to teach EVERY theory. Not sure why this survey is so biased in favor of one religion though.

How many of you will take your children to church?
Do you notice you want me to give you statistics way too much? Why would I take my child to a church? Which branch of Christianity would I even force down the poor kid's throat? Really, they can't make up their minds as to what the truth is, why should I support such inaccurate inaccuracy?

How many of you will raise your children to make their own decission, like you had?
500 billion? Said it a couple times already, but they can believe in whatever they want, but I expect them to have a good reason, not just mindlessly follow a crowd.

How many think that your child will be Atheist?
Let me do a quick count....Ok, 7 billion, guess I'm an optimist. Like every parent, I'd expect my child to be smart, so let us hope they'll follow logic, eh?

Let's be honest. No matter what you do, your child will almost certainly be Athist. Because thats the house hold they grew up in. So did you think you forced it on them?
My mother tried to force me into being a good Catholic boy... Guess how well that turned out. I suppose I asked too many questions, 'cause the only responses I got from anyone, including priests was something like "That's the nature of faith." I asked if they get much problem from the brain washing procedure, Got yelled at, asked them why everything they can't explain is the devil's work, and bam, I'm no longer allowed in that church. Big loss for me, eh?
But, why not REALLY be honest here, you want to try and make us look like hypocrates, so does it matter what we write? Why is it you didn't try to be less hypocritical yourself? Why always the Christian god? You should make one that asked about religion as a whole. Only fair, what if my kid wants to be a Jew, or a follower of Islam? What are those not real to you?