I may teach them about religion as it is important to our culture and history. I'd probably make fun of it while I was at it though. How could I resist?
pimppeter2 said:
How many of you will take your children to church?
Hopefully he or she will be atheist. I'll definitely encourage that direction.
pimppeter2 said:
Let's be honest. No matter what you do, your child will almost certainly be Athiest. Because thats the house hold they grew up in. So did you think you forced it on them?
I wasn't raised under any religion. My grandmother was religious, but never Christained my mother. My mother is slightly religious, nothing like my grandmother but never Christained us kids. I will do the same with my future children. I will probably send them to Sunday school, only because Sunday school was just another fun activity for us children but I won't force them into church or reading the bible. They can come to their own conclusions as they grow older and I will love them all the same.
First of all, I never want to have kids and thus I don't think this would be a problem for me. But I'll just pretend I've entered some black hole and it led me to an alternate dimension where I think procreating is absolutely a good idea. So let's go:
Do Atheist parents have the right to force Atheism on their children?
Well, no one should force anything on anyone else. But yes, atheists have the right to teach their kids about their own beliefs (or lack there of). There will come a certain time, I imagine around Christmas, when the kid will ask why we're not celebrating. And then I'd explain. I obviously won't be going to a church or religious ceremony. Some in my family will. The kid, if it's any smart, will realize we're not like the other members of my family. Hopefully they reach their own logical conclusion.
How many of you will raise your child not to believe in a god?
I'd at least raise him/her (is that better form than "it"?) to question the whole concept.
How many of you will raise your child with knowledge of God? (Without making fun of it while you teach it.)
Nope. They'd be free to look into it. I'm sure my mother would have a few words to say. But I myself do not believe and would let the kid know.
How many of you will take your children to church?
I cannot think of a more uncomfortable place for me to be. So this one is obviously a no.
How many of you will raise your children to make their own decision, like you had?
The kid's free to believe what he/she wants (now it just sounds like I'm giving birth to a hermaphrodite; I think I'm going back to "it"). Obviously I'd be happier sharing my beliefs with it, but I won't force them upon it.
How many think that your child will be Atheist?
Well, I hope so. It seems more logical than throwing belief into religions that foster discrimination and bloodshed.
Let's be honest. No matter what you do, your child will almost certainly be Atheist. Because that's the house hold they grew up in. So did you think you forced it on them?
I grew up with a Methodist mother and Catholic father. Religion was pretty big in my household. Yet somehow, I formed my own beliefs and convictions. So now, I don't think I would have forced anything on the kid. Because if it's mine at all, it'll have the smarts (I hope) to make up its own mind.
Side bar: I consider myself an atheist-leaning-agnostic. Meaning, I doubt there's anything out there, but acknowledge the possibility I'm wrong. I consider myself fairly open-minded, as long as you can back your case up with logical arguments. I also think I'm a moral person, which is more than many religious folks I know can say. And really, doesn't that matter more than anything else?
I dont believe in god, I just find it retarted that everyone praises something ritten on an old book that could have been writen by a crazy guy\child, yet no one has proof of.
*sigh*....
As for the rest of the questions, maybe i'll answer them another time.
to dam tired now x[
I see only the major's,that makes sense for the sake of keeping it simple.But for me personally refering to Zeus as God makes about as much sense as the Christian or Muslim version.
So my answer to the OP would be I'll teach any children I have about religion as a topic that deserves alot of thought and study.Including the history,philosophy and politics pertaining to it.
If they choose a particular religion based on emotion or gut feeling I'd support their choice but continue to challenge them to think.
I dont believe in god, I just find it retarted that everyone praises something ritten on an old book that could have been writen by a crazy guy\child, yet no one has proof of.
*sigh*....
As for the rest of the questions, maybe i'll answer them another time.
to dam tired now x[
Im not yelling at you because of your belief, nor because I belive your sayin religion is bad. But becasue you're describing christianity in a matter that is pretty offensive and troll like. You could just have said I don't agree that some very old book holds the answers to life and some guy claiming hes the son of god. Instead of calling it retarted.Btw, the book was written by lots of people not just 1. Unless its some sort fo crazy conspiracy.
I dont believe in god, I just find it retarted that everyone praises something ritten on an old book that could have been writen by a crazy guy\child, yet no one has proof of.
*sigh*....
As for the rest of the questions, maybe i'll answer them another time.
to dam tired now x[
Im not yelling at you because of your belief, nor because I belive your sayin religion is bad. But becasue you're describing christianity in a matter that is pretty offensive and troll like. You could just have said I don't agree that some very old book holds the answers to life and some guy claiming hes the son of god. Instead of calling it retarted.Btw, the book was written by lots of people not just 1. Unless its some sort fo crazy conspiracy.
I dont belive in God, because I find it "Un-Natural" that everyone can believe such a thing, because it was written on paper. Yet with no proof that it's real and not a story.
Imagen if "Godzilla" was written on that book back in the day, then would everyone have to believe such a thing exists (And that a giant dinousar like thing called "Godzilla" is God?)
I'm also not saying that everything has to have proof, but with this matter of importance, it could have somethign to base it on, other than it "has been writen by many people".
1). No parent should have the right to impose their religious beliefs on their children, regardless of their opinions and how strong they are.
2). I do not plan to teach my children about God at all one way or another. If they ask me about anything where a discrepancy exists between science and religion, I will present the science, and I have no shame in admitting that. Science is based on empirical evidence, and as new material arises to work with, scientific opinions change, sometimes radically. That is my major problem with many religions: most religions' beliefs were written millenia ago, and have changed only in small ways with time. When they are exposed to it by the natural course of time, probably when they hit the fourth grade and their peers start thinking about their own religious beliefs, they will be ready to make their own decisions or ask me or their mother for more information about religion. When this happens i will present what i know of various religions. Despite my atheism, I know more about Christianity than many Christians, however i do admit to greater ignorance regarding Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, and every other religion that exists and i am completely unaware.
3). Refer to the above for the answer of this question.
4). No, I will not personally force my children to go to church. If they wish to, however, if only to experience it for themselves, I would be more than happy to oblige.
5). Again, refer to 2) for my response to this question. If my child chooses to be of a certain religion, I couldn't tell them no, even if I wanted to. The First Amendment applies here, obviously.
6). I cannot predict the future. There is no telling what it holds. If my child chooses Atheism, fine. If he/she chooses Christianity, Judaism, or anything else, even if he/she made it up, fine. The only "religion" I would be wary of is Scientology. But I couldn't forbid it.
If I ever have kids, I'll raise them so that they can choose what they want to believe. I'm agnostic, but I'm interested in religions, so I'll probably teach my kid(s) about different religions and let them explore what they're interested in when they're old enough.
"Inspired" by the Right of parents to force their religion on their children thread. I feel its time to turn the tables.
Try answering the question.
Atheists
Do Atheist parents have the right to force Atheism on their children?
How many of you will raise your child not to belive in a god?
How many of you will raise your child with knowledge of God? (Without making fun of it while you teach it.)
How many of you will take your children to church?
How many of you will raise your children to make their own decission, like you had?
How many think that your child will be Atheist?
Let's be honest. No matter what you do, your child will almost certainly be Athist. Because thats the house hold they grew up in. So did you think you forced it on them?
*Btw, I do hate Religious threads, but Im kinda pissd at the one sidedness of that other thread*
Since people appear to be blind, or have never been children.
[HEADING=2]Its a child, it cannot choose its own religion. Stop saying that. It can when its a teen, but how many 5 year old converts do you know?[/HEADING]
I grew up in a traditionally Greek Orthodox family. Going to church semi regularly. I was never really that devout. My mother was, so I would go to church with her to please her. I started questioning around the age of 12 and a little bit lower. Today, I still call myself Christian, but my feelings about religion can be sumerised by "there could be". I don't buy into many things the church says. Like the wrongness of homosexuallity and the "sort of" denial of evolution. I belive their might be a god, but my opinion wavers twords oneside or the other constantly. The reason I do belive in god is because of all the great things I have recived through prayer. Like my brother being diagnosed with somethin curable rather than fatal, which I know is just medicin but I am still thankfull for. Latly, my opinion has been more "who cares". I belive in being a good person on earth, and belive that if their is a god I will be rewarded for being a good person, not for being devout.
Anyway, thats a ramble on me.
Do Atheist parents have the right to force Atheism on their children?
No but I still think a majority of their kids will be Atheists, because they grew up in a Atheist household. I will raise my children to be good people. My wife can make them religious.
How many of you will raise your child not to belive in a god?
As above
How many of you will raise your child with knowledge of God? (Without making fun of it while you teach it.)
I will teach my child the concept of god. To help him make his decission.
How many of you will take your children to church?
Not frequently. My wife can take them more
How many of you will raise your children to make their own decission, like you had?
I will raise them Christian. But focus on being a good person over just belief. Then they can choose
How many think that your child will be Atheist?
Maybe, the world is a ever growing frightening place. If its hard for me to stay devout. it will probably be harder for them.
This is all incredibly infuriating each time it happens. If you hate religious posts so much, don't jump on the bandwagon and close the browser, go to another forum, or just stay clear of them.
At the same time though, this is very hypocrite of your part. You claim that putting your beliefs in someone's face isn't right. That atheist's childrens will grow up to become atheists too, and while I agree that it is the case, you also say that you'll put your beliefs onto your children, and so will your wife. What does it change from atheists doing so from their childs?
My whole point is, you have to educate your kids from what you know, and what you believe. If you believe there is a God, then by all means tell them so and show them His splendor. If you don't, tell them there's no such thing. But don't let them be stupid and not teach them anything because you don't want to impose your beliefs, and don't pretend you're better by saying you find it sickening somebody would do this to their child while you and your wife plan to do the same thing with yours.
I will simply teach my child to question everything that s/he hears.
I didn't know that my father was an atheist until after I myself made the decision to become one.
There's no reason that my child can't be the same way.
In my opinion, considering that religion isn't exactly an important part of an atheist's life, I doubt that it will come up all that much.
I won't mention it. I'll let him/her work out stuff for his own. This probably means the kid won't end up believing in any religion, but I probably couldn't really care less about that either.
pimppeter2 said:
How many of you will raise your child with knowledge of God? (Without making fun of it while you teach it.)
I do think so, yes. If it ends up being a clever kid it will either become an atheist or create its own religion - I doubt it'll end up becoming a member of a real religion.
pimppeter2 said:
Let's be honest. No matter what you do, your child will almost certainly be Athist. Because thats the house hold they grew up in. So did you think you forced it on them?
1. No. I don't think they should "force" anything on their child. He/she should decide for themselves. When I was 5, my mom tried to tell me about Santa Claus. I completely rejected that.
2. *see above*
3. I will teach him/her each side of religion, then the logical side...I mean the atheist side.
4. I will not take my child to church.
5. Once again, see above.
6. I do. My child [b/]will[/b] be an atheist or at least agnostic. I won't be like, "I forbid you to worship any God in my house!!!" but I'll teach them each side, like I was, and hopefully, they will see how illogical it is to believe in gods.
This is in "retaliation" to the thread about Christians forcing religion on thier kids. I was proving how Parents don't force religion on their kids. Kids just accept a lot of what their parents belive most of the time.
Try reading it again. Especially the first sentance an this
"Let's be honest. No matter what you do, your child will almost certainly be Athist. Because thats the house hold they grew up in. So did you think you forced it on them?"
The answer is no.
In fact the other thread I was relating to was the thread with hypocracy.
You can't teach non-religion. You don't have to say anything. The simple truth is if you don't teach your kid about God, than they won't believe in it. Just don't mention it and they will come to a logical conclusion.
This probably sums up what I think. Its like when a dad talks about how its awesome that homosexuals are being recognised now after being repressed for so long. Then his son walks in and says he's gay, and the dad goes totally ape shit.
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