I can understand that too much of these threads can be tiring but obviously there's still demand for them. I think the people who aren't sick and tired of discussing this subject yet should be allowed their discussion, no?siege_1302 said:
Atheists, the new Catholics?
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That's the opposite from what I've been trying to get across. If there were undeniable proof, or questionable proof for that matter, the Atheist (at least I) would be the first to look into the matter. Because we obviously don't want to burn in hell for the next umm... eternity.CJ1145 said:
I find it ironic that even if religion was proven, the first thing urging me to sign up is not wanting to burn in hell. Isn't religion peace loving?
This thread has attracted the attention of some irritating high post members of the escapist community, but I'm going to throw down here anyway.
Oftentimes I believe the same thing you do, this is somewhat common on just about every forum I've ever been to, and they've forced me to come to this conclusion.
Religion isn't cool anymore. Maybe it wasn't ever cool. But either way, if you're an atheist, at least on the internet, you're now the majority, and if you're religious, you're now the minority.
Which unfortunately, means that I now root for the religious folk, simply because they're the underdog and rooting for the underdog has always been a pasttime of mine.
As for my own beliefs on the issue of "Is god fake? Is god real?" I'm not much for Catholicism's ability to condemn someone to eternal punishment based on where they put their dick, or where they shop or what music they listen to. I've never been a fan of the Muslim's tendency to blow themselves up (a horrible generalization), their sexism (even though a part of me likes that aspect a lot). And the Buddhists are too much like druids for me, not really giving a crap about anything except true neutrality.
However atheists take the cake in the irritation field. This is a difficult thing to say, because unlike most other faiths, the lack of a faith seems to make you cry out even louder when people say things contradictory to your own belief. You can't say "I like god" ANYWHERE on the internet (albeit a bible thumping site, but none of you have ever been there, have you?) without getting flamed almost instantaneously. I don't mean to be a dick, but this seems to have originated on 4chan.
Okay, so finally, I don't believe in a god in a traditional sense, but I believe in something, I'm not sure why, but I do. I can say that atheism, in it's general mindset, is incredibly useful to the human condition in that we've garnered a ton of scientific advances through saying "Science is my god!" but I will also argue that the faith that something will be there when you die is absolutely essential, moreso than scientific advances to our continued existence. Because frankly, all you atheists are just too damn scared to die.
Oftentimes I believe the same thing you do, this is somewhat common on just about every forum I've ever been to, and they've forced me to come to this conclusion.
Religion isn't cool anymore. Maybe it wasn't ever cool. But either way, if you're an atheist, at least on the internet, you're now the majority, and if you're religious, you're now the minority.
Which unfortunately, means that I now root for the religious folk, simply because they're the underdog and rooting for the underdog has always been a pasttime of mine.
As for my own beliefs on the issue of "Is god fake? Is god real?" I'm not much for Catholicism's ability to condemn someone to eternal punishment based on where they put their dick, or where they shop or what music they listen to. I've never been a fan of the Muslim's tendency to blow themselves up (a horrible generalization), their sexism (even though a part of me likes that aspect a lot). And the Buddhists are too much like druids for me, not really giving a crap about anything except true neutrality.
However atheists take the cake in the irritation field. This is a difficult thing to say, because unlike most other faiths, the lack of a faith seems to make you cry out even louder when people say things contradictory to your own belief. You can't say "I like god" ANYWHERE on the internet (albeit a bible thumping site, but none of you have ever been there, have you?) without getting flamed almost instantaneously. I don't mean to be a dick, but this seems to have originated on 4chan.
Okay, so finally, I don't believe in a god in a traditional sense, but I believe in something, I'm not sure why, but I do. I can say that atheism, in it's general mindset, is incredibly useful to the human condition in that we've garnered a ton of scientific advances through saying "Science is my god!" but I will also argue that the faith that something will be there when you die is absolutely essential, moreso than scientific advances to our continued existence. Because frankly, all you atheists are just too damn scared to die.
Without motivation, a rational person would be completely greedy. Justifiable.NotMemorable said:
As for religion, it's irrational. Irrationality to me is the same thing as stupidity, thus I conclude that at least a portion of a religious person mind is stupid.
It's rational to fill ones own ego. It's irrational to create an omnipotent being to explain the universe because that's what you want.hobo_welf said:
If atheists were afraid of death, they would do anything to prevent it from being the end, and hence would be religious.hobo_welf said:
Not so smart as you'd burn in hell for eternity, or are you going to take chances on that one? It's a little easy to just call someone an idiot because he defies your sense of logic.Name99 said:
And stop trolling, civil discussion will get you miles further than spreading hate.
You said that if God was proven to be real, then you wouldn't worship him. Thus if he is real, his punishment of hell is also real. Thus you would suffer for ever if you didn't spend 60 years doing what he wanted. It's irrational to trade an eternity of happiness for 60 years of free living.Name99 said:
I don't agree that "being cool" was ever of any significance. Also I'd like to state that religion has nothing to do with "believing in something more". Religion has a set of rules and attachments with it that makes it so (potentially) harmfull to our society. You said there's more atheists on-line, I'd say that causes them to be louder, I don't think Atheists are generally more inclined towards prick behaviour.hobo_welf said:
Faith is not essential, for some people it is a soothing thing because they cannot accept the concept of nothingness. But I would hardly call it essential, nobody knows what happens when we're dead so the real benefit in faith would have to be while alive. There's plenty of atheists who aren't depressed because they don't know what will happen if they die. And yes, atheists are scared of death, as anyone should be. For every single person death is a plunge in the deep, no one knows or will ever know what happens when we die. Some theists may be less scared of death because they're assured they'll go to heaven but is this rightly so? I say no! If theists are less scared of death than atheists, they're desillusioned.