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Gooble

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In the event of flaming, please evacuate the thread by the nearest exits, located at the 'Back' button in your browser windows, and the links at the top and bottom of your screen :D
 

Captain Pancake

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Well, the idea behind the word "faith" is to believe without proof. While i'm not a church goer myself, on paper i'm still christian. As my uncle once stated, I'm a "hatch, match and dispatch" Christian.

I feel i should also say that, despite your ranting, nobody really cares much for this argument. it's been done before. most people accept other religions, without following them blindly. It's similar to the case that, although i don't like football, i won't hold it against those that do. not to say football's a religion...
 

wolfy098

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galletea said:
Well not like I've said exactly this on every single religion thread I've entered into...oh no wait. It's a point that also irritates me.
As an athiest I find it most irritating that people assume I'm going to attack their religions and tell them they're stupid.
No they think SOMEONE will throw a fireball not Necessarily you
 
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Just one thing... I am an atheist and I just want to say that you should also mention all the Christians and Catholics and w/e else that rant on that there IS a god, as though they have seen him and sat down for tea with him just last week. I agree 100% with everything you say. There is no proof that god doesn't exist. But there is also no proof that he does exist, and anyone saying they KNOW he does is a fool. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go build a fortress to prepare for the onslaught of flamers who will no doubt cook me alive in a steaming vat of Jesus.
 

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wolfy098 said:
NO atheism is when you believe god doesn't exist
agnostic = you don't know

athiests KNOW there isn't a god
therefore they aren't agnostic

edit: WALL OF FIRE INCOMING RUN WHILE YOU CAN!!!!
atheism |ˈāθēˌizəm|
noun
the theory or belief that God does not exist.
 

Skeleon

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An agnostic considers it possible that there are gods.
An atheist on the other hand is sure there are no gods.
So, no, us atheists are not agnostic.
Still, I agree with you that flaming is wrong.
But please don't mix us with those indecisive wishy-washy types.
 

Leorex

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joystickjunki3 said:
wolfy098 said:
NO atheism is when you believe god doesn't exist
agnostic = you don't know

athiests KNOW there isn't a god
therefore they aren't agnostic

edit: WALL OF FIRE INCOMING RUN WHILE YOU CAN!!!!
atheism |ˈāθēˌizəm|
noun
the theory or belief that God does not exist.
or the doctrine that there is no deity

fine then im a super atheist because i know god dosent exist.
 

wolfy098

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joystickjunki3 said:
wolfy098 said:
NO atheism is when you believe god doesn't exist
agnostic = you don't know

athiests KNOW there isn't a god
therefore they aren't agnostic

edit: WALL OF FIRE INCOMING RUN WHILE YOU CAN!!!!
atheism |ˈāθēˌizəm|
noun
the theory or belief that God does not exist.
oh no if thats the case who's someone who knows god doesn't exist
 

JamesR

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secretsantaone said:
I will not lie, I have come here to gripe.

The gripe is those who call themselves or others 'Athiests' and seem to have no idea what the word means.

{...}

So please, next time you want to post in a religious thread claiming you're an athiest and must vehemently attack all religion as false, don't. You're letting the true athiests down.

Defend your beliefs, don't attack other's.

/gripe
One might posit that you sir are in fact not a 'real' 'Atheist'.

You might also find that most Anti-Religious people are also Atheist. They are not one and the same but certainly often found in the same people.
 

joystickjunki3

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wolfy098 said:
joystickjunki3 said:
wolfy098 said:
NO atheism is when you believe god doesn't exist
agnostic = you don't know

athiests KNOW there isn't a god
therefore they aren't agnostic

edit: WALL OF FIRE INCOMING RUN WHILE YOU CAN!!!!
atheism |ˈāθēˌizəm|
noun
the theory or belief that God does not exist.
oh no if thats the case who's someone who knows god doesn't exist
Good question.

Maybe a "wolfy098-ist"? jk jk
 

Kpt._Rob

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Atheism (yes, the "e" does come before the "i") actually is the belief that there absolutely is not a god, and in that sense there actually aren't a lot of genuine atheists. Most of us who use the word atheist are actually defacto atheists, meaning we believe that the probability of a supernatural deity existing is so low that it is a moot point, but we do not claim it to be absolutely impossible, so in technicality defacto atheists are agnostics, but in practice they are atheists.

People like myself follow in the steps of Richard Dawkins, himself a defacto atheist, who very consciously uses the term atheist because it is more confrontational than agnostic.

That said, those of us like Dawkins and myself who attack religion add another name to our resumes; we are anti-theists. So you are right to say that there is a difference between believing 100% that there isn't a god (atheism), and believing that religion ought to be attacked (anti-theism).

All that said, I used to share your opinion. People were free not to believe, but they shouldn't attack other's religions, they were free to believe what they want to believe too. After I read the arguments that anti-theists like Dawkins, Hitchens, and Harris make, however, I became an anti-theist. You shouldn't judge all anti-theists by the dribble that frequently appears from uninformed anti-theists on the internet, there are some excelent reasons to attack religion.
 

Credge

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secretsantaone said:
I will not lie, I have come here to gripe.

The gripe is those who call themselves or others 'Athiests' and seem to have no idea what the word means.

Athiesm is the non-belief in a God based purely on scientific fact and logic. Many do not believe in a God due to these exact reasons.
No. Atheism has nothing to do with scientific fact or logic. All atheism is is a lack of a belief in any god. That is it. It has nothing to do with science, logic, reason, etc. You can have atheism without science, logic, or reason.
 

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secretsantaone said:
Athiesm is the non-BELIEF in a God, not the knowledge of it's non-existance.
Semantics hair-splitting must get you laid an awful lot, huh?
 

More Fun To Compute

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Atheists have to stand up for our rights. We are not properly represented by democratic parties and some religious groups think that it is acceptable strip us of legal rights or even kill us.