Atlus Bankruptcy: Nintendo migh Buy Shin Megami Tensei Developer; Persona 5 Wii U big possiblility

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Even if the situation isn't the same as Bayonetta 2, I would hope that people wouldn't go any crazier if Nintendo purchased Atlus(which I seriously doubt anyway) than if Sony bought them. Personally I don't care either way, and I would hope that Atlus, or its franchises could stay third party somehow.

Although I think it's funny everyone keeps saying Nintendo needs more interesting "hardcore" exclusives, yet people hate it when they actually make an effort to get them, make up your minds!
 

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Hero of Lime said:
Even if the situation isn't the same as Bayonetta 2, I would hope that people wouldn't go any crazier if Nintendo purchased Atlus(which I seriously doubt anyway) than if Sony bought them. Personally I don't care either way, and I would hope that Atlus, or its franchises could stay third party somehow.

Although I think it's funny everyone keeps saying Nintendo needs more interesting "hardcore" exclusives, yet people hate it when they actually make an effort to get them, make up your minds!
i say it'd be nice if they did but stay away from the series i like
 

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Tony2077 said:
Hero of Lime said:
Even if the situation isn't the same as Bayonetta 2, I would hope that people wouldn't go any crazier if Nintendo purchased Atlus(which I seriously doubt anyway) than if Sony bought them. Personally I don't care either way, and I would hope that Atlus, or its franchises could stay third party somehow.

Although I think it's funny everyone keeps saying Nintendo needs more interesting "hardcore" exclusives, yet people hate it when they actually make an effort to get them, make up your minds!
i say it'd be nice if they did but stay away from the series i like
I definitely understand that sentiment, I may not be very emotionally attached to Atlus, but I would prefer they stay third party, despite being such a huge Nintendo fan myself.
 

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kiri2tsubasa said:
IF they do, then I am done with Atlus and will no longer support them because I HATE NINTENDO! There 1st games suck, and that is true then the quality will drop. Ever since the n64 I abhorred them.
Well then. No Shin Megami Tensei IV for you. Or Devil Survivor. Or Soul Hackers. Seriously, go through this list, you'll see that there's already quite an abundance of Atlus titles on Nintendo systems already. The quality hasn't dropped and I doubt it will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlus_games

Dragonbums said:
However the last thing Sony needs is Nintendo taking another property from them.
The lost of MH was a big hit for them.
Sony lost MH because of serious disagreements with Capcom. Portable 3rd and Portable 3rd HD could have been localized had Sony been willing to put up the cash to update ad-hoc, instead of trying to force Capcom to pay. Sony also now requires trophies on PS3 titles released in the US. Capcom didn't want to do that. Nintendo was quite friendly in comparison, helped market the game, and pay for servers.
 

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No non нет nein nej ne όχι 没有!
I need Persona 5 to be on PS3/4. I NEEDS IT!
 

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Hero of Lime said:
Tony2077 said:
Hero of Lime said:
Even if the situation isn't the same as Bayonetta 2, I would hope that people wouldn't go any crazier if Nintendo purchased Atlus(which I seriously doubt anyway) than if Sony bought them. Personally I don't care either way, and I would hope that Atlus, or its franchises could stay third party somehow.

Although I think it's funny everyone keeps saying Nintendo needs more interesting "hardcore" exclusives, yet people hate it when they actually make an effort to get them, make up your minds!
i say it'd be nice if they did but stay away from the series i like
I definitely understand that sentiment, I may not be very emotionally attached to Atlus, but I would prefer they stay third party, despite being such a huge Nintendo fan myself.
i don't mind Nintendo i do have a 3ds but i don't want to get there consoles. so i'm not really a fan of that smt x fire emblem game
 

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Hero of Lime said:
Although I think it's funny everyone keeps saying Nintendo needs more interesting "hardcore" exclusives, yet people hate it when they actually make an effort to get them, make up your minds!
It's more in this case because it is Atlus. I mean if Nintendo were to buy them what would happen to Persona 5 seeing as no Persona game has ever been made for a Nintendo console, and if Sony were to buy it then what would happen to Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem. If one company or the other were to purchase Atlus then they'd effectively be alienating the fan base and splitting them causing hatred. The best outcome that could happen would be if Atlus were to self-publish or were bought by NIS, which also raises the question about Disgaea because there has only ever been 1 Disgaea game on a Nintendo system and that was a remake of the first one on the DS. What would happen to the new Disgaea game being made for the PS3? Really it'd be bad for either company to purchase it. We need to hope that NIS could take the hit and purchase the company because really it'd be a step back to go from 3rd party and make stuff for everything, to going to 1st party and only being exclusive.
 

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I still need to get Persona 4 Golden for my Vita, so until I get that (no money due to Steam Sales) I'll probably want Nintendo to buy them just to see the massive amount of butthurt that everyone gets. It would be an asspocolypse.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Neronium said:
It's more in this case because it is Atlus. I mean if Nintendo were to buy them what would happen to Persona 5 seeing as no Persona game has ever been made for a Nintendo console, and if Sony were to buy it then what would happen to Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem. If one company or the other were to purchase Atlus then they'd effectively be alienating the fan base and splitting them causing hatred. The best outcome that could happen would be if Atlus were to self-publish or were bought by NIS, which also raises the question about Disgaea because there has only ever been 1 Disgaea game on a Nintendo system and that was a remake of the first one on the DS. What would happen to the new Disgaea game being made for the PS3? Really it'd be bad for either company to purchase it. We need to hope that NIS could take the hit and purchase the company because really it'd be a step back to go from 3rd party and make stuff for everything, to going to 1st party and only being exclusive.
While I can see your logic, are Nippon Ichi Software a big enough company to just out and out buy Atlus? I always thought NIS were a company who managed to stay profitable by being very sensible with smaller projects. Similar to XSEED, say. I'm going through their games list now, and I can't see anything that would be classed as a runaway 'AAA' success. I can't say I could see them not only splashing out the cash to buy Atlus, but to then keep supporting their development team with money as well. Not unless they brokered some sort of deal with a larger conglomerate or something.

It's not just the asking price of Atlus which is the thing here. It's the fact that whoever buys them, they're going to need to keep pumping money into Atlus in order to keep their developers working on something. Sadly, there aren't many companies within the gaming industry outside of Sony or Nintendo who have the money to do that. Square Enix are currently going through financial hell (and personally, I think it would be better to keep the SMT franchise separate from FF). Capcom and Namco aren't looking to expand as far as I'm aware. I can't see Activision or Ubisoft being interested in a somewhat niche Japanese developer-publisher, and EA currently doesn't have the cash (as far as I'm aware) to keep buying up more studios.

From where I see it, the only real option outside Sony or Nintendo is some kind of media conglomerate. That could perhaps work better. Media conglomerates often remain very hands off regarding developers they purchase. Index may have been corrupt bastards, but they seem to have allowed Atlus to just do their own thing. It may be worth hoping that some other large conglomerate has been keeping abreast of the situation, and decides to step in themselves. That would keep Atlus third party, and hopefully give them free reign over their own games. The only problem, of course, is that if that conglomerate starts losing money, we end up in exactly the same situation again.

We shall see...
While that is true more people would be devastated I think when it comes to Atlus being forced to become a first party one because the chances of either company letting Atlus also develop certain games for other platforms is about as likely as Capcom admitting that they made mistakes with the Megaman franchise and start production on Legends 3 again. Really the worst ones to get it would be Square Enix because I can see them trying to turn SMT and Persona into somethign like FF and as of late SMT and Persona have been way more popular lately then how some of the FF games have been. I can see Capcom trying to make DLC hell outta the franchise, and other companies you listed like you said really don't have interest in a Japanese company. I mean when I look at the list I notice that Atlus develops more for Nintendo's handhelds than for Sony handhelds, but also develops more for Sony consoles than for Nintendo consoles. Really in this case any of the Big 3 purchasing the company would be bad, but many of the 3rd party companies wouldn't do so well for it either.

Problem with Sony purchasing it is that they aren't in the best financial situation at the moment and are busy with the PS4 launching, while Nintendo has a huge problem with localization times and region locking and believe me I know a shit ton of people that imported the Persona games as they made more in imports than they did locally. If Nintendo were to ease on the region locking, which I've had the biggest gripe with for ages, then I'd be better. Which now that I think about it, Atlus seems to develop more for consoles and handhleds that don't have regions locks as the Nintendo Gameboy through the DS Lite weren't region locked and all of Sony's consoles from the PSP to know aren't region locked at all.
 

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Hey. Hey, Nintendo.

I mean, I'm sure Atlus would be in good hands at Nintendo, what with SMT4 just being released on the 3DS and the SMT x Fire Emblem cross-over, but if they buy them and make Persona 5 exclusive to WiiU, I'm going to be severely disappointed.

I might be able forgive them if they decide to make a 3DS version, but it would have be entirely the same game with nothing taken out.

SO COME ON, SONY, BUY ATLUS, PLS.
 

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first off, atlus isn't going bankrupt their parent company is. nintendo can't bail atlus out cause they aren't in trouble. second, atlus is more than just a developer, they also are a publisher, i highly doubt they need anyone to survive if their parent company collapses. the article is pure fanboy speculation and possible trollbait/trolling
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Sure gamers identify the brand with Playstation, but it's never been a big seller like God Of War or Uncharted. It's not worth Sony splashing out cash they currently don't have for the sake of one series. Whereas Nintendo is relying on Atlus for a lot of their third party support, and can't afford to have them go elsewhere. The 3DS was hugely bolstered this year by the inclusion of Etrian Odyssey IV and Shin Megami Tensei IV among its exclusives.
That is the thing people seem to be overlooking here; Megam Tensei...was never established with the PS brand. The series actually began on the Famicom and THEN the Super Famicom. If your actually look up the Megami Tensei series, its entries on Nintendo systems outnumber those on Sony systems (though there is a lot of overlap). The only reason Atlus moved the series over to the PS brand was because it outnumbered the Nintendo brand, the same as all third parties. Now with Nintendo currently outmatching Sony there's really no reason to make stuff for Sony anymore exclusively.
 

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The misleading title of the thread is understandable because that's the misleading title of the online article. Right now it's all pure speculation, and to be honest I'm most hoping that it is not a game oriented company which buys up Atlus. I'm fine with Atlus making a bunch of games for Nintendo, not so much with the idea they release games exclusively for them.

Further, Atlus' attitude towards budgeting and quality control are at odds with the prevailing mindset in mainstream gaming. Even if another game company buys them up and does not actively meddle, I do worry about the tone set by a new owner.

The way I figured, we'd be getting Persona 5 on the PS3 anyway because we got Persona 4 very late in the PS2's lifecycle. There's no proof of that, but it would be nice to see a new installment on a console I don't want. I sucked it up and got a 3DS for SMT IV, Strange Journey, etcetera; but having to jump on the WiiU is not very appealing. While it might be convenient for me if Sony were to acquire Atlus, I'm not too jazzed about that thought either. I want Atlus to be in responsible hands who will give them a reasonable level of independence in their choices of what games they make and which systems they are made for.
 

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If a first party has to take Atlus I actually hope it's Nintendo considering the fact that every recent non-Persona SMT game has been on a Nintendo system.

...Yes, I run on the delicious tears of Persona fans, even if I am one myself.
 

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I would be happy with this.
I like Nintendo (Not enough to buy a WiiU currently, but lets see how things swing)
I like some Atulus stuff. It's usually pretty good, but sometimes its poorly designed junk.
Maybe with Nintendo at the helm, Atlus could be consistently good.