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By the way Attack on Titan is published in a seinen magazine. It's actually not shounen at all, even the time it's airing in Japan is later at night because of the violence level. And actually the part the anime is at now is probably the closest where it comes to those cliches, later on you'll see how good their so called badass genius actually does them.

Anyway, manga is pretty much divided into 4 demographics.

Shounen- for teenage boys
Shoujo- For a teenage girls
Seinen- For adult males
Josei- for adult females

Now the lines between them can be rather blurry but each generally has certain art styles and cliches associated with them. Seinen stuff has a lot of teenage girl panty shot things going on when it isn't actually being more mature. Josei tends to be more romance oriented with a good deal of boys love stories. Shounen tends to be the most popular, as teenage boys are obviously the biggest consumer of comic books.
 

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Legion said:
I watch anime and I am not that good with those terms either. But then again, I don't really care for genres, sub-genres and such. Something is either enjoyable or it is not, I don't really care about what category people stick it in.

Basically shounen is manga (not anime) aimed at teenage boys. They are not really known for emotional depth, as much as they are cool action sequences. As for why them being genius would be relevant, I think Shinji means that it doesn't really have much character depth as the characters are all "badass" in one way or another.

Personally I disagree for the reasons somebody stated above.

The easiest way to describe it using Western examples would be that something like Pacific Rim is "shounen" whereas something like The Last of Us would be "Seinen" (manga aimed at adults). It's not the most accurate way to describe it considering the terms are meant for manga not other mediums, but hopefully you get the idea.

Casual Shinji believes that it basically follows the typical conventions and tropes of Japanese manga/anime aimed at teenage guys. Although personally I don't really agree that it is comparable to such shows as One Piece, Naruto, Bleach and such. It may follow similar themes at times, but it is a lot darker and less over the top.

The only well known shounen I'd compare it to would be Fullmetal Alchemist, but it is less "silly" and over the top than that as well. My only real criticism of the show is that they tend to do too much re-capping. They seem to think we are too thick to remember everything and so I have seen the same clips around 15 times at the start of each episode.
The only "shounen" convention of this show that really irks me is how it just drags its feet in typical Dragonball Z fashion. That entire 'move the rock' operation actually stopped me from watching, because it was already coming hot off the heels of an episode where everyone was just standing around the whole time. It was like episode after episode of the characters talking about what they were going to do instead of actually doing it. I can take the suped-up skillz, but this dragging out of the breath before the plunge wears out my patience right quick.

And apart from that there's two big issues I have with the story from episode 5 onward.

First of all, 8-year old Eren killing two to three fully grown men in melee combat. Even if it was a surprise attack that's just ridiculous. Unless his dad trained him how to be a child soldier that's not happening. It also completely goes against how Eren was presented before we even saw that flashback; Someone who talks big, but is ultimately powerless. The only reason they seem to have put it in is to explain Mikasa's fierce loyalty to Eren, and that's just a really cheap way to get that point across.

And secondly, the "flesh mecha" twist, just... ugh.

You see, I thought Eren getting eaten was a fantastic way to demonstrate that these titans don't care if your the main protagonist. He's just as likely to get chomped as everyone else we already saw getting devoured during the story, and he does. From then on the story should've really focused on Mikasa as the main character. They should've still had the mystery "ally" titan ofcourse (cause he was awesome), but have him remain a mystery. Have Mikasa believe he might be Eren incarnated or something, and have conflict and drama emerge from that. But no, instead Eren is alive and well and can titanize himself where we actually see him in the titan surrounded by muscle. *sigh*

As I said, this show could've been so good if not for this.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
The only "shounen" convention of this show that really irks me is how it just drags its feet in typical Dragonball Z fashion. That entire 'move the rock' operation actually stopped me from watching, because it was already coming hot off the heels of an episode where everyone was just standing around the whole time. It was like episode after episode of the characters talking about what they were going to do instead of actually doing it. I can take the suped-up skillz, but this dragging out of the breath before the plunge wears out my patience right quick.
To be fair that is a problem with the anime not the manga. The manga has much better pacing as it doesn't get the training parts out of the way and then spend forever with them doing nothing. The training parts are told through flashbacks and it doesn't feel anywhere near as slow paced.

From what I have read, it seems a part of that is the desire to not catch up with the manga too quickly. I know what you mean though, I did start to get a little tired of how it seemed to have around three episodes of nothing happening at all, but once it picked up I was hooked again.

And apart from that there's two big issues I have with the story from episode 5 onward.

First of all, 8-year old Eren killing two to three fully grown men in melee combat. Even if it was a surprise attack that's just ridiculous. Unless his dad trained him how to be a child soldier that's not happening. It also completely goes against how Eren was presented before we even saw that flashback; Someone who talks big, but is ultimately powerless. The only reason they seem to have put it in is to explain Mikasa's fierce loyalty to Eren, and that's just a really cheap way to get that point across.

And secondly, the "flesh mecha" twist, just... ugh.

You see, I thought Eren getting eaten was a fantastic way to demonstrate that these titans don't care if your the main protagonist. He's just as likely to get chomped as everyone else we already saw getting devoured during the story, and he does. From then on the story should've really focused on Mikasa as the main character. They should've still had the mystery "ally" titan ofcourse (cause he was awesome), but have him remain a mystery. Have Mikasa believe he might be Eren incarnated or something, and have conflict and drama emerge from that. But no, instead Eren is alive and well and can titanize himself where we actually see him in the titan surrounded by muscle. *sigh*

As I said, this show could've been so good if not for this.
I don't think Eren killing them was that bad, the first one he wasn't expecting a kid to try anything and he was bent down in front of him, so once his throat was slashed he was done for. The second guy was a little more unbelievable considering that it suggests a level of cunning that a child of that age would almost certainly not have.

I agree that it did seem to contradict what we saw before though. The kids seemed to beat Eren up and were only scared of Mikasa so it seems strange that he was apparently not that good at fighting any more or that apparently nobody was aware of the fact he killed two men single handedly.

That said, I am suspecting there is something not quite "right" with the time-line. Eren had dreams involving certain things before the Colossal Titan appeared, things he shouldn't have known at the time. The part where he is crying but doesn't know why at the beginning.

The second one doesn't bother me. If Eren was the only one who could do it, and it was all about how amazing he was then I'd agree. I dislike the way it has the typical main character being special aspect to it, but from what I can tell (I am not past the TV series at the moment) it seems that human-titans is something that has a rather integral part to the plot. It's not just Eren being special.
 

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Zhukov said:
The only main difference is that they try to crush you instead of eat you, but now I'm nitpicking.
Nope, they eat you too. Sometimes they swipe at you, pick you up and chomp you.
 

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Ha! I totally just killed all 32 titans! I love how it's possible to recreate moves from the series but it takes a lot of skill. So satisfying.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I agree wholeheartedly with your prognosis. Despite all its faults I am still enjoying it, however. Yeah, it could be a lot better, but it's not all bad.
 

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Very good, if only it would be possible to change the camera to 1st person :(
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I agree wholeheartedly with your prognosis. Despite all its faults I am still enjoying it, however. Yeah, it could be a lot better, but it's not all bad.
That's the thing though. The setting is so freaking cool, and the first 5 episodes absolutely nail it. But these particular issues stop it dead in its tracks for me, which makes it so aggravating, because I was so onboard up to that point.
 

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I found the perfect music for this game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOUlXCiqByY

Now, swing away!

(You're welcome!)
 

TrevHead

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It would be totally cool if a dev like Platinum made this or Gantz into a full blown action game.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Zhukov said:
When I read the word "titan" in the title I wasn't imagining something quite so... derpy.
Have actually... seen the show?
Yeeaah, I was just going to say that the models looked slightly stupider than actual titans.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
And secondly, the "flesh mecha" twist, just... ugh.

You see, I thought Eren getting eaten was a fantastic way to demonstrate that these titans don't care if your the main protagonist.
Yes, but that would be too good. And if you did that then...

you couldn't have EPIC titan vs titan battles could you? It's shounen anime. Not to be an ass about it, but I saw it coming from the first episode. Buuut, there are some interesting things that happen later in the story that I didn't see coming. Sadly, this is not enough to eclipse the rest of it that makes it garbage.

That is what this anime is. Stock shounen bullshit.

Lots of pontificating about the titans and fear, and talking talking talking, without actually saying anything. Yeah the titans may be some mysterious force, yeah there is a bunch of shady pseudo religious dudes going about doing their thing. Who cares?

Lets review the three characters.

Eren: stock hero with an anger issue, quick temper, vendetta against the titans for his mothers death, generally means well but is reckless and would almost certainly die without... extra-thick shounen plot armor

...Mikasa: stock strong silent type anime character, little to no character except she is an emotionless machine when fighting titans. Of course, her emotions will burst out sometime later in the series over the course of 5 episodes composed of 8 flashbacks, because shounen anime... and last we come to...

...Armin: stock weakling character who is almost always sidelined and or in trouble. The character who's task it is to vomit exposition to the watchers/readers in the most long winded and pedantic way possible, because shounen anime.

And that's just the main ones, I could go on and on.

It's just too much bad tropes mixed in with great animation and solid potential that make the show tragic. I love looking at the art and designs, but I can't watch or read anymore. I'll wiki it when it gets further down the line in a year or so.

Not going to spoil anything, but of all the things I've read so far. This guy is the most interesting character.

 

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Casual Shinji said:
First of all, 8-year old Eren killing two to three fully grown men in melee combat. Even if it was a surprise attack that's just ridiculous. Unless his dad trained him how to be a child soldier that's not happening. It also completely goes against how Eren was presented before we even saw that flashback; Someone who talks big, but is ultimately powerless. The only reason they seem to have put it in is to explain Mikasa's fierce loyalty to Eren, and that's just a really cheap way to get that point across.

And secondly, the "flesh mecha" twist, just... ugh.

You see, I thought Eren getting eaten was a fantastic way to demonstrate that these titans don't care if your the main protagonist. He's just as likely to get chomped as everyone else we already saw getting devoured during the story, and he does. From then on the story should've really focused on Mikasa as the main character. They should've still had the mystery "ally" titan ofcourse (cause he was awesome), but have him remain a mystery. Have Mikasa believe he might be Eren incarnated or something, and have conflict and drama emerge from that. But no, instead Eren is alive and well and can titanize himself where we actually see him in the titan surrounded by muscle. *sigh*
Actually to be honest I thought that the scene with him killing the Human traffickers fit his character pretty well. Let me explain, you see I've been reading some of the manga chapters and in one of the later ones, Hannes talks about how Eren talks a really good fight but always needs the help of someone else to bail him out. Even though he got the jump on the traffickers one of them managed to corner him and strangle him, and his Mikasa hadn't bailed him out he would've been killed. Ok they may have stretched it a little bit, but I don't think it was TOO implausible. Eren's main fighting style seems to be heavily rage focused, which kinda fits it.

Ok, I'm not going to lie, when I first read about this I actually kinda thought that it was a cop out. But to be honest I've come to appreciate it because...eh...I don't want to give away too many spoilers here, how up to date are you on the manga?
 

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Zhukov said:
Raine_sage said:
Zhukov said:
Casual Shinji said:
Zhukov said:
When I read the word "titan" in the title I wasn't imagining something quite so... derpy.
Have actually... seen the show?
Nope. Didn't even know it was an anime.

To the youtubes!

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So... the titular titans are giant naked retards?

Okay. Those have to be some of the least menacing monsters ever. Which is quite an achievement for something the size of a church steeple.
The titans are kind of weird as far as threat design goes. They look so silly in one scene and then downright terrifying the next. Part of this is that while they can look goofy they also kill a bunch of people in very disturbing ways.
Well, I only watched like four random Youtube videos, so I'm hardly an expert.

One of them had a female titan chasing a bunch of the cape-two-swords-and-grapples people through a forest. She managed to be kind of menacing since she looked crazy in a focussed kind of way rather than a sitting in your own shit kind of way. Also, significantly better animated.

I might be asking the wrong people here, but is the actual show any good?
I would just watch an episode. kiss anime.com.

So yeah LOVE THIS GAME! so fun.
 

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The game has recieved an update! Multiplayer now available!
http://fenglee.com/game/aog/
 

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So is someone here going to make a 'server' and invite us all or...what?

Don't tell me I have to do it.
I hate having to be the awesome one :(
 

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The game has some problems, but I admire that they're trying to create fast action moments, while still letting the player keep total control. Despite aforementioned problems, it's still pretty fun.

EDIT: Since some of the more experienced characters of Attack on Titan like to keep track of how many Titans they've killed, how about we keep a little scoreboard for ourselves?

So far, the most Titans I've killed in one round is six.
 

Silk_Sk

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I killed all 32 without dying. But on the multiplayer game I was in that lasted for an hour I killed 84 (with deaths though).
 

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Silk_Sk said:
I killed all 32 without dying. But on the multiplayer game I was in that lasted for an hour I killed 84 (with deaths though).
Silk you still bsb active? lol I see what youve been up to. Ive killed 16 I believe. it gets hard if you aggro too many and I hate hate HATE! getting stuck on one just because ackerman wont climb the titan right or the swinging is hard to control.
 

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I'll probably be active in bsb once the next patch hits. Before that though, this game and Skullgirls.