Attraction explained: how to talk to women

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Lizard Queen

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Should I be worried that about half of his list of 'signs of attraction' could just be common courtesy?

Personally I would suggest treating us like human beings, not aliens or sex objects. Try getting to know a few of us. We're not that scary.
 

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hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
Scarecrow 8 said:
Wow...you sir are a sad lonly man if you think this is how it works. You have my pity.
I wanna get something clear right now: I am not a lonely man. I go out and talk to all sorts of people on a regular basis. And when I flirt with women, I do what I described in my Berlin-wall-of-text, and it works. I did not invent this theory sitting in my basement. I didn't even make it up. It was made when a group of guys decided they didn't want to be sad and lonely and went out and did something about it. It works, ask anyone who knows anything about psychology and they will tell you it works.
You either talk to a lot shallow girls or you don't have a lot of bright friends.

ps, you sound like a mad inventer running thought the streets shouting out 'IT WORKS.....IT WORKS....THE DEATH RAY WORKS!!!!'
 

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hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
It was made when a group of guys decided they didn't want to be sad and lonely and went out and did something about it. It works, ask anyone who knows anything about psychology and they will tell you it works.
So you read it in a book from the "Self Help" section of a bookstore?

Really, psychologists don't agree on anything together.
 

Scarecrow

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Lizard Queen said:
Should I be worried that about half of his list of 'signs of attraction' could just be common courtesy?

Personally I would suggest treating us like human beings, not aliens or sex objects. Try getting to know a few of us. We're not that scary.
It's good to see what a girl thinks of this, because I had a feeling that they woundn't be too happy about it.

Edit: ps, welcome to the site! 'bow'
 

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There's some wisdom behind what you're saying here (why yes I did read the whole thing, I'm a little proud of that), but overall it leaves too much to situation. The thread should be titled, "how to get interest in a bar" or something like that. The situation seems to demand a place like a bar or club where there's an expectation of picking up or being picked up. The little conversation you laid out to get a reaction and break the ice isn't all that clever or funny, in my opinion, and is just as likely to fail as the "weird proximity" thing you mentioned not to do above.

The OP almost says that girls aren't attracted to jerks, but then starts on saying most don't, and here's why. As a man, I can say this as fact: no girl wants a jerk. I think only someone with years of rejection behind them could state otherwise. What the OP did say that is true is that girls love confidence. There's not much magic (or logic) beyond that. The only time I've ever gotten the merest interest out of a woman I was attracted to was by being confident. It was only afterwards that I managed to f**k things up.

I don't mean to sound like I know better, because I don't, I'm just saying that the things stated here as fact seem rather pessimistic and skewed... no, that's not the word... bitter? No... I mean that it seems to think very little of men, women and the whole idea of attraction.
 

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aschere van she said:
People are not rational creatures. They are not computers, they do not operate by logical constraints, they are emotional, feeling above thinking. If you actually try to talk to someone by "the rules" or something, you're going to look like an idiot. If you analise people by these terrible generalizations, chances are you haven't actually been around many people.
You mien friend said the best response to this
 

Zyphonee

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Actually, that is a very shallow depiction of human attraction. Women are naturally attracted to those who fit "Natural selection"; the most natural and primal being the strong troglodyte archetype, but in a society where men have the possibility of having power via knowledge and personality, treats that expose your "survival of the fittest" become an ignored instinct.
 
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Ahlycks said:
hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
snip snip snip
o_O I really should ask her out soon.

You said no insulting, but that does not include teasing, right? Cuz asking questions and teasing is all I got T_T
Teasing is great, if you're good at it. If you're not, you may rub her the wrong way.



Scarecrow 8 said:
You either talk to a lot shallow girls or you don't have a lot of bright friends.

ps, you sound like a mad inventer running thought the streets shouting out 'IT WORKS.....IT WORKS....THE DEATH RAY WORKS!!!!'
Shallowness has nothing to do with it, most girls do this. Also I must admit that the death ray thing made me laugh.
 

TeeBs

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I press F3 and searched for Rock out with your cock out, nothing was found.
Your thesis now has no basis.
 

Scarecrow

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hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
Ahlycks said:
hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
snip snip snip
o_O I really should ask her out soon.

You said no insulting, but that does not include teasing, right? Cuz asking questions and teasing is all I got T_T
Teasing is great, if you're good at it. If you're not, you may rub her the wrong way.



Scarecrow 8 said:
You either talk to a lot shallow girls or you don't have a lot of bright friends.

ps, you sound like a mad inventer running thought the streets shouting out 'IT WORKS.....IT WORKS....THE DEATH RAY WORKS!!!!'
Shallowness has nothing to do with it, most girls do this. Also I must admit that the death ray thing made me laugh.
You remind me of a friend. He worked out something very similer if not the same. He goes out to clubs to try it and every night he comes home with his face smelling of mace.
 

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Krantos said:
Must. Resist. Rant.

urgh... Congratulations! You've just described how to hit on/pick up approximately 5% of the female population.

Come back when you realize the other 95% don't fit your nice little stereotype.
Or after you're on the Maury show because the 5% you chose are the shallowest 5%.
 
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SimuLord said:
Krantos said:
Must. Resist. Rant.

urgh... Congratulations! You've just described how to hit on/pick up approximately 5% of the female population.

Come back when you realize the other 95% don't fit your nice little stereotype.
Or after you're on the Maury show because the 5% you chose are the shallowest 5%.
I've said it once and I'll say it again. It's not a matter of shallowness. We all like to think the girl who rejected us is just some "stupid *****," but maybe she gets this a lot. Maybe some girls are desensitized to guys walking up to them and asking what they do for a living.

Now I'm not trying to say that all girls have their pick of the litter and that they have boys fawning over them all night, what I'm saying is that even girls who don't have guys asking them out all the time have still had guys walking up them and creepily hitting on them.

And if the shallow thing is happening because of my little attraction list, I would reply that girls do most of those unconsciously without actively trying to flirt with the man in question.
In fact I just did. Right there.
 

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hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
SimuLord said:
Krantos said:
Must. Resist. Rant.

urgh... Congratulations! You've just described how to hit on/pick up approximately 5% of the female population.

Come back when you realize the other 95% don't fit your nice little stereotype.
Or after you're on the Maury show because the 5% you chose are the shallowest 5%.
I've said it once and I'll say it again. It's not a matter of shallowness. We all like to think the girl who rejected us is just some "stupid *****," but maybe she gets this a lot. Maybe some girls are desensitized to guys walking up to them and asking what they do for a living.

Now I'm not trying to say that all girls have their pick of the litter and that they have boys fawning over them all night, what I'm saying is that even girls who don't have guys asking them out all the time have still had guys walking up them and creepily hitting on them.

And if the shallow thing is happening because of my little attraction list, I would reply that girls do most of those unconsciously without actively trying to flirt with the man in question.
In fact I just did. Right there.
Your ideas are wrong, you have no proof, you keep telling us the same thing over and over again trying to get us to agree with you and the girls who have comment have being outraged. If you really think that this is the right way to talk to girls then you should be locked away. Now stop anoying us please.
 

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hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
Men go for looks, women go for status.
No. Just no. All you're doing is stereotyping, that is not analyzing, that is just flat out stereotyping.
 

V3KT0R

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Wow, people get very angry and touchy.
They don't really do research.
While it IS possible to out-sarge an area, chances are these things will work. And this doesn't talk about how to approach the "girl of your dreams." This simply makes the assumption that through meeting many different women, you'll FIND the one of your dreams. This is, at least in my opinion, designed to help the less capable of us. And if it helps less capable males of doing what they're supposed to do, great, I have no problem with that. If you're already a natural, excellent, good for you. I'm just here to tell you guys that more arguing goes on in these forums more than the "MARAUDERS ARE OP" or "AWW GAWWWD FOR CHRISSAKES NERF EMP!" on the StarCraft II forums.

Peace people, just be peaceful.
Peace and love.

gl hf

- VEKTOR
 

V3KT0R

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Scarecrow 8 said:
hortez the champion of the frozen wastes said:
SimuLord said:
Krantos said:
Must. Resist. Rant.

urgh... Congratulations! You've just described how to hit on/pick up approximately 5% of the female population.

Come back when you realize the other 95% don't fit your nice little stereotype.
Or after you're on the Maury show because the 5% you chose are the shallowest 5%.
I've said it once and I'll say it again. It's not a matter of shallowness. We all like to think the girl who rejected us is just some "stupid *****," but maybe she gets this a lot. Maybe some girls are desensitized to guys walking up to them and asking what they do for a living.

Now I'm not trying to say that all girls have their pick of the litter and that they have boys fawning over them all night, what I'm saying is that even girls who don't have guys asking them out all the time have still had guys walking up them and creepily hitting on them.

And if the shallow thing is happening because of my little attraction list, I would reply that girls do most of those unconsciously without actively trying to flirt with the man in question.
In fact I just did. Right there.
Your ideas are wrong, you have no proof, you keep telling us the same thing over and over again trying to get us to agree with you and the girls who have comment have being outraged. If you really think that this is the right way to talk to girls then you should be locked away. Now stop anoying us please.
Hortez, just show these people proof or GTFO. I don't even care who's right at this point, I just want these arguments gone. Tell them to research The Game, show them Stylelife academy, show them what you will. In order to have an argument, both sides need to be educated on the material that'll be used for that argument. If they refuse to read The Game, then that's just stupid because first of all 1) It's an amazing story and the writer in me loves it and 2) There is an inkling of reality to what is written. Neil Strauss has done interviews, he's used this shit successfully, he's an example. I'm going to sleep because I don't like arguing with people over women and/or e-peen SAIZEZ.
 

archvile93

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Or you can take the more productive approach of abandoning the desire for a relationship.