like there are actually people who give a damn about the rating when they buy a game, unless it's a gorefest version of Spongebob I don't care wether they indicate it or not.
Australia is Tired of Being a "Laughingstock"
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Let me elaborate to the outside world exactly what the Australian Christian Lobby are. Basically, they're a far right, ultra socially conservative group of morons. If they had a t.v channel, it would most certainly be compared to Fox News.
They fabricate evidence or twist words to suit their agenda, and have had members openly state in the past that if some religious prayer recited before every sitting of parliament stopped happening, Australia would go to the shit.
They command way too much opinion in our Government, which itself is a travesty. There should only ever be one form of democratic government and that is one that is completely and utterly secular, especially in a country that likes to say it is the only multiculturalist success story.
They fabricate evidence or twist words to suit their agenda, and have had members openly state in the past that if some religious prayer recited before every sitting of parliament stopped happening, Australia would go to the shit.
They command way too much opinion in our Government, which itself is a travesty. There should only ever be one form of democratic government and that is one that is completely and utterly secular, especially in a country that likes to say it is the only multiculturalist success story.
Just like the NC-17 rating. Smack that label on a movie and no theater (pornos don't count) will touch it. Rate a game AO and it'l be impossible to find. Which is sad because it really limits game developers. I'm not even going to go into the whole games-are-art bullshit, I just hate censorship.JediMB said:
I play 18 plus games all the time but those are from japan with English patches.. from a different point of view i think this would help in way because all games like fallout 3, left for dead, dante's inferno etc are cut down to get the 15 plus rating but still have a lot of the content in there. This will allow a check/balance to make sure that teens are not playing games there not suppose to with out parental consent 1st. This is just my opinion though....
A little progress is welcome, though we still have a ways to go in this movement. I'm still glad and proud that I personally championed the R rating for games in a letter to my state's most prestigious newspaper, The Sydney Morning Herald.
Every word spoken in favour can contribute to an overwhelming political force if we Aussie gamers do our part. Majority support is not enough, not with a generation gap with our representatives to overcome. We have to cross it with passion and vocal outcries.
I'll only be cheering when the legislation actually gets passed. Until then I don't trust the commitments of the involved officials in the least. We've had enough waiting. We want this done now, not July. Justice should not have to wait for any official meeting planned far too long in advance.
There have been Scripture lessons here in Australian schools for a very long time. Students have to be excused from these lessons using a note from their parents. More annoyingly, they are always Christian lessons and teachers of varying branches, which must be more than irritating if you happen to be of another faith. Or if you're the wrong type of Christian, amusingly enough.
Just to clarify: this has always been an issue here. It's not a new thing at all. There's new dialogue about it occasionally, but of course since Christianity is still the dominant religion here Scripture hasn't yet been replaced by ethics classes for agnostics and members of other religious systems (which ARE a somewhat new concept/source of public discussion). I suspect that as immigration to Australia from less religious countries increases, and our atheist/agnostic population grows organically, there will be stronger pressure towards that outcome.
I should also point out that Australia is less statistically religious than the United States. I'm not saying you're from there (your profile doesn't say), but going by probability, you probably are, so it's important to put this into perspective. The R rating is a legislative issue and a generation gap education issue, not really one with religious conservatism (which only partially delays progress here). Meanwhile, the reason why we get concerned in our media about Scripture in the first place is that we are on the whole a less religious and more secular country than we once were. Otherwise it wouldn't be news, because it'd be a supported continuity rather than a controversial tradition.
Every word spoken in favour can contribute to an overwhelming political force if we Aussie gamers do our part. Majority support is not enough, not with a generation gap with our representatives to overcome. We have to cross it with passion and vocal outcries.
I'll only be cheering when the legislation actually gets passed. Until then I don't trust the commitments of the involved officials in the least. We've had enough waiting. We want this done now, not July. Justice should not have to wait for any official meeting planned far too long in advance.
Let me bring you up to speed a bit since you have some interest.this isnt my name said:
There have been Scripture lessons here in Australian schools for a very long time. Students have to be excused from these lessons using a note from their parents. More annoyingly, they are always Christian lessons and teachers of varying branches, which must be more than irritating if you happen to be of another faith. Or if you're the wrong type of Christian, amusingly enough.
Just to clarify: this has always been an issue here. It's not a new thing at all. There's new dialogue about it occasionally, but of course since Christianity is still the dominant religion here Scripture hasn't yet been replaced by ethics classes for agnostics and members of other religious systems (which ARE a somewhat new concept/source of public discussion). I suspect that as immigration to Australia from less religious countries increases, and our atheist/agnostic population grows organically, there will be stronger pressure towards that outcome.
I should also point out that Australia is less statistically religious than the United States. I'm not saying you're from there (your profile doesn't say), but going by probability, you probably are, so it's important to put this into perspective. The R rating is a legislative issue and a generation gap education issue, not really one with religious conservatism (which only partially delays progress here). Meanwhile, the reason why we get concerned in our media about Scripture in the first place is that we are on the whole a less religious and more secular country than we once were. Otherwise it wouldn't be news, because it'd be a supported continuity rather than a controversial tradition.