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Odude said:
I find this rather funny actually. Air-striking camels. It sounds like something I'd do in an RTS when I get bored.
Aaah, if only you could left-click them until they exploded.
 

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Rigs83 said:
Odude said:
I find this rather funny actually. Air-striking camels. It sounds like something I'd do in an RTS when I get bored.

Honestly though, I've seen the overpopulation of camels firsthand a few years back when I went to Australia for a couple months. I flew over portion of the outback in a helicopter a few times and saw heard after heard of camels. They were more common than birds over there. And that was a few years ago. I can't even imagine how dense their population must be now.

Oh, and I support whatever must be done to protect the Australian ecology. (I hear non-native bobcats are really bad over there too...)

Edit: Before people get all up-in-arms, THEY'RE NOT USING BOMBS. YOU CAN'T MAKE BURGERS FROM EXPLODED MEAT. THEY'RE GONNA SHOOT THEM WITH A RIFFLE.
Isn't that how Palins hunts wolves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mu_rqmFpL8[/youtube]
Wolves don't fuck up the natural ecosystem. They ARE the natural fucking ecosystem. We're not hunting the camels for sport, we're hunting them because they're ruining native lands, farm land, towns. Plus, I don't think Palin is big on eating wolf meat.
 

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BonsaiK said:
Rigs83 said:
Odude said:
I find this rather funny actually. Air-striking camels. It sounds like something I'd do in an RTS when I get bored.

Honestly though, I've seen the overpopulation of camels firsthand a few years back when I went to Australia for a couple months. I flew over portion of the outback in a helicopter a few times and saw heard after heard of camels. They were more common than birds over there. And that was a few years ago. I can't even imagine how dense their population must be now.

Oh, and I support whatever must be done to protect the Australian ecology. (I hear non-native bobcats are really bad over there too...)

Edit: Before people get all up-in-arms, THEY'RE NOT USING BOMBS. YOU CAN'T MAKE BURGERS FROM EXPLODED MEAT. THEY'RE GONNA SHOOT THEM WITH A RIFFLE.
Isn't that how Palins hunts wolves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mu_rqmFpL8[/youtube]
Yeah but wolves are cool. Wolves live as part of the environment and complement the ecosystem of Alaska. Camels are fugly, and they smell, and they ruin everything and starve out other, cooler, more awesome animals. Camels really need to go, they should have never been brought to Australia in the first place.
Let's ship Palin over and let her do the shooting. She's not busy anymore and maybe she will be useful for something other than getting Obama elected.
 

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TheRealCJ said:
Rigs83 said:
Odude said:
I find this rather funny actually. Air-striking camels. It sounds like something I'd do in an RTS when I get bored.

Honestly though, I've seen the overpopulation of camels firsthand a few years back when I went to Australia for a couple months. I flew over portion of the outback in a helicopter a few times and saw heard after heard of camels. They were more common than birds over there. And that was a few years ago. I can't even imagine how dense their population must be now.

Oh, and I support whatever must be done to protect the Australian ecology. (I hear non-native bobcats are really bad over there too...)

Edit: Before people get all up-in-arms, THEY'RE NOT USING BOMBS. YOU CAN'T MAKE BURGERS FROM EXPLODED MEAT. THEY'RE GONNA SHOOT THEM WITH A RIFFLE.
Isn't that how Palins hunts wolves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mu_rqmFpL8[/youtube]
Wolves don't fuck up the natural ecosystem. They ARE the natural fucking ecosystem. We're not hunting the camels for sport, we're hunting them because they're ruining native lands, farm land, towns. Plus, I don't think Palin is big on eating wolf meat.
I am not disagreeing with you it's just that this story reminds me of Palin's evil hobbies. I have never been to Australia but I thought the barrens of Australia were pretty barren so why not get a bunch of hunters,Land Rovers, ammo and Foster's and let them go nuts.
 

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I am not disagreeing with you it's just that this story reminds me of Palin's evil hobbies. I have never been to Australia but I thought the barrens of Australia were pretty barren so why not get a bunch of hunters,Land Rovers, ammo and Foster's and let them go nuts.
Fair enough, Alaska and Australia have similar problems when it comes to sheer size. The problem in Australia is that often the distance between the homestead and the camel herd is a good day's drive, and beyond the fuel capacity of even the most miserly 4WD. Helicopters are used to actually kill the animals, and they're usually processed where they're killed - after they are dead, they can't go anywhere, so the mobile processing plant can get there in it's own time.

Also, it's not like a fleet of black hawks are on standby to go camel hunting, there will probably be some government sanctioned hunters, but most will be just farmers and hobbyists looking to make a few extra dollars for what they mostly do anyway. And out here (and by here, I mean out there there - I'm a city dweller), every man and his dog has a bubble-domed chopper. It's a fact of life, when you need to bring three days worth of food and camping gear to drive from one end of your property to the other, it's just common sense.

So essentially: The farmers/hunters have the means, and now they've had the reason for a long time (Camels are absolutely hell to handle when a herd runs through your fences - especially whe it takes a day to get out there), and now they have the blessing. The goverment, on the other hand, have a small army of volunteers ready to do what they need them to do, in exchange for a decent fee, they make money off meat and skin exports, and they help the environment to boot. It's a win-win.

Sorry for the long-winded ramble, but I'm quite passionate about the environment, especailly since I like to travel in the outback, and I'd much preferr to see native fauna and flora thriving, rather than herds of introduced species running amok.
 

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AhumbleKnight said:
AWC Viper said:
Aardvark said:
Just because they're the greatest mathematicians on the planet, doesn't mean they get a free ride. Slaughter the damn lot of them.
Wait. What?
You need to read more Discworld novels.

OT: I don't see the problem with this at all. They need to be culled because of their population being an issue for the environment and other species that are actually native. There are rules and limits detailing what can be done so it is all above board.
In this case Pyramids.

And yes, if there are too many camels then reason dictates that the population be culled. It's the way things work normally except in situations where an animal is introduced and messes things up. So we have to do it.
In Denmark at least a lot of the deer hunting is, besides from making cool skulls with antlers, also to maintain a healthy population and keep things in check.

People have got to stop being squeamish about that sort of things. It's not like they are an endangered species and they're not even native to the country.
 

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Surprise surprise, humans overpopulating the world can't be dealt with because murder is wrong but camels don't have feelings so mass annihilation is A-OK
 

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TMAN10112 said:
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TMAN10112 said:
It looks like Camel season is open.

I believe that bolt-action rifles are still legal in Australia, and this looks like a good time for a government sponsored hunting campain. All the they would need to do is get the word out, and offer a reward for dead camels (plus they could give the meat to the homeless).


Discount Camel hunting trips could be very good for the tourist industry.
hunting is a lucrative job anyway without Gov help. also we can own any weapon you can have in the U.S but you need to be a licensed Hunter.
You can hunt for a living in Australia?

I am intrigued.
Yes, if you don't die from a poisonous animal. And since it's Australia, they have so many venomous spiders, snakes, scorpions and platypuses that half of them will kill you in a matter of hours.

TheRealCJ said:
Fightgarr said:
Yes, clearly airstrikes will help them save the fragile ecosystems.
That's not a stupid and terrible idea at all.
Of course, by 'Airstrike', they mean 'Rifleman in a helicopter' and NOT 'tactical missles'.
Gosh darn it, too bad. I would love to see how an F-16 lowers and drops 5 bombs on a family of camels.

I guess gunfire is the answer, too... Not as funny though.
 

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BrynThomas said:
AWC Viper said:
BrynThomas said:
TMAN10112 said:
I believe that bolt-action rifles are still legal in Australia.
(Sighs) This statement can sum up how Americans see our guns laws. An Australian citizen can possess any sort of firearm...as long as they have the appropriate license. But you need an appropriate reason and to undertake firearms safety courses.

The most common license is a A+B, which covers air rifles, .22 rim fires, double barreled shotguns, lever action shotguns, bolt action rifles, pump action rifles and lever action rifles. Hunting or pest control is usually the most common reason for this license.

But if you are a member of a pistol club for at least a year you can get a pistol license, just like you can get a pistol license if your job entails it (security guard etc). So occupational and recreational reasons. Your fingerprints are taken as well I believe.

You can even possess semi-automatic and automatic rifles if you have a good enough reason. God help me I can't think why you'd need one.

You can even get specific collectors licenses, but I don't know much about these, I have however met a man who legally owns a working lewis machine gun (don't ask me how).

This is just the way it works over here, and it does work.
you can own rifles and pistols under normal laws but only for a purpose i.e. hunting, Club, Security work (need Security licence). But not for self defense. Collectors licences are for all Antique and Deactivated Weaponry i.e. a lewis MG or in my case a Austen.
The biggest thing I guess Americans don't understand is that in Australia owning a gun is a privilege not a right.
That really clears up alot of questions (up until now I've just been going off of what it says on wikipedia).

In America you only need a licence for handguns, and where/when you can carry them (varies by state and county).

You can own automatics, but it requirs a class 2 or 3 licence, which is out of range for 99.9% of the population.
 

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Rigs83 said:
I am not disagreeing with you it's just that this story reminds me of Palin's evil hobbies. I have never been to Australia but I thought the barrens of Australia were pretty barren so why not get a bunch of hunters,Land Rovers, ammo and Foster's and let them go nuts.
Firstly we don't drink fosters. no Australian does and we use land cruisers and hilux's not land rovers.