Avatar 2

[Keepitclean]

Making money. Whatever James Cameron wants.
I don't know what I want in Avatar 2. I know I don't want it to be an undercooked overly predictable mess though.

 

[Berethond]

I really didn't like Pocahontas.

Me neither, actually, I thought it was kind of... for kids.
Which it is.

The other thing I would like in Avatar 2 is more giant mechs.
And some way to bring the helicopter pilot back, she was the best character in the whole movie.

 

[Lord of Maggots]

Probably the Navi being invaded by some other alien race and the humans helping out or some crap like that. Avatar really wasn't the masterpeice I hear people claiming it to be. It was good but it wasn't the god sent film most people think it was. A sequel is so un-needed.

 

[Hollock]

YAYY!

as a side note, I wonder how this whole avatar thing would have turned out if south park didn't mention it.

Probably much the same. It's just popular to make fun of because it's so noticeable. I have no problem with the people who genuinely didn't like it, but the people constantly shouting 'Pocahontas' without any sort of debate is just getting a bit tiring. There are other ways to criticize a film than that. Shit, I don't shout out 'Aliens!' every time I play Halo.

Anyway, you must remember that the South Park guys are cynics of the highest degree. They make fun of anything and everything, including themselves.

Yeah but sometimes people forget about that.

Actually I remember reading a negative review of district 9 saying they ripped off starship trooper, because the prawns were bugs. In the longrun people will probably get over that it's got a classic story. I mean people don't say Fistful of Dollars is just a ripoff of Yojimbo, people dont say star wars is just a ripoff of Hidden fortress, it's just a matter of time before Avatar looked at for it's own quality.

Actually when this all started I was taken by surprise when someone compared liking Avatar to liking transformers 2.

 

[Hollock]

I would like to see the earth government take over the corporation that was beaten in the first one and they then send over colonists and the colonial marines. Yes the colonial marines from Alien, tying the two movies together.

The colonial marines aren't villainous mercenaries like in the first and the colonist are just trying to survive. The Navi and the Marines have a pretty big vietnam style war going on, maybe a Navi male is captured and he meets humans and realises they aren't all bad. Perhaps we get to see how overcrowded earth has become. He and an attractive human lady have to convince Sully whose going crazy guerrilla style (maybe the colonial marines kill his mate or something). Eventually after an epic battle where Sully realises what he's doing isn't Pandora's will and levelheads prevail. The colonists and the Navi share culture and live happily ever after.

Until number 3 which is of course Alien Versus Predator versus Navi (kidding).

That does sound pretty good, but I couldn't imagine a whole movie with colonies of people in oxygen masks.

 

[Hollock]

That does sound pretty good, but I couldn't imagine a whole movie with colonies of people in oxygen masks.

What about a bubble of some sort around the colony? Like a self contained atmosphere.

Again, a take off of Aliens, but as James Cameron says himself, he's free to rip off his own movies.

Touché

EDIT: off topic a little; even if some of you thought it was derivative of other movies, don't you think that the first one has ultimately built up to something that has the potential to be the wholly unique and cool thing you felt the original wasn't?

 

[maninahat]

It could be something about the precarious shifts a culture goes through when there is a significant change in society: Being tribals, the Na'vi realise the advantage of having superior technology over their enemies. They reconstruct human technology, at the cost of their own environment and heritage.

It turns out the humans desperately needed the so called unobtanium all along to ensure the survival of their race, so they head back to Pandora. On arrival, they discover the place is a mess from all the in fighting. It ends up being up to the humans to try and force a peace long enough for the environment regenerate and for them to harvest unobtanium safely. The humans are stuck wondering whether they should encourage the Na'vi to go back to their old ways or allow them to dictate their own path.

 

[mesoforte]

Nukes.. a lot of nukes. Going off to the song of Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen.

1812 Overture instead and you have a deal. Personally I prefer biological weapons though. :\

 

[ethaninja]

Hmm, a race from another planet attacking Pandora.

 

[Lord of Maggots]

Probably the Navi being invaded by some other alien race and the humans helping out or some crap like that. Avatar really wasn't the masterpeice I hear people claiming it to be. It was good but it wasn't the god sent film most people think it was. A sequel is so un-needed.

Well, I thought it was myself. A very good way to end what hasn't been a great decade.

The story was just a rehash of a Disney classic with a new skin. Granted the skin is incredibly well animated and nicely put together its nothing new.

As for a not so great decade... Lord of the Rings. Star Wars. Watchmen. Distric 9. Cloverfield. 28 days/weeks later. Crank 1&2. 300... and sooooooo many more. I think the decade had a FANTASTIC bunch of movies. Sure there were some totally rediculus ones but what decade doesn't have its fair share of crap?

 

[maninahat]

In the longrun people will probably get over that it's got a classic story. I mean people don't say Fistful of Dollars is just a ripoff of Yojimbo, people dont say star wars is just a ripoff of Hidden fortress, it's just a matter of time before Avatar looked at for it's own quality.
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Actually, it would make more sense to say Yojimbo was ripping off Red harvest (funny how these things come full circle).

I'd argue that although there is nothing wrong with conventions in the first place, there is an issue of it being conventional to the point of clichéd. Avatar was a long film and had absolutely no suprises in store. We'd seen this story so often, the film was perilously close to being boring.

Plus there was the issue of the conventions themselves that Avatar was using. They weren't good ones in the first place. They were sanctimonious, racist, and ridiculously unsubtle, just like they were in Pocahontas, The last Samurai, Dances with Wolves and all those other films. It was not good of Cameron to repeat these dated conventions as though they were commendable.

 

[Hollock]

Probably the Navi being invaded by some other alien race and the humans helping out or some crap like that. Avatar really wasn't the masterpeice I hear people claiming it to be. It was good but it wasn't the god sent film most people think it was. A sequel is so un-needed.

Well, I thought it was myself. A very good way to end what hasn't been a great decade.

The story was just a rehash of a Disney classic with a new skin. Granted the skin is incredibly well animated and nicely put together its nothing new.

As for a not so great decade... Lord of the Rings. Star Wars. Watchmen. Distric 9. Cloverfield. 28 days/weeks later. Crank 1&2. 300... and sooooooo many more. I think the decade had a FANTASTIC bunch of movies. Sure there were some totally rediculus ones but what decade doesn't have its fair share of crap?

Star wars was the 70s and early 80s

 

[maninahat]

Nukes.. a lot of nukes. Going off to the song of Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen.

1812 Overture instead and you have a deal. Personally I prefer biological weapons though. :\

I hate the 1812 overture. Nukes in slow motion to The Hebrides. Now that would be epic.

 

[dudehead]

1000 years in the future...

... the Na'Vi are thriving, having sex fueled orgies and making cheap yet quality foreign cars when suddenly a meteor hits the planet (voiced over by Bill Cosy of course SHABLAM ZOOBOOZLE KERPOWY!) it turns out it's an alien ship. The Na'Vi, with humans being no more than legends and history, open it to find its the last remnants of the human race which was wiped out due to energy crisis and... something happens I didnt think this far ahead. Also I loved the first Avatar.

Agh! Must change profile pic! Its been years since I was on here.

Edit: Better

 

[Ze_Reaper_Of_Zeath]

Meh, not a big fan of Avatar, although it has good visuals.

 

[Tanfastic]

When I saw the first Avatar I was waiting the whole movie for a small child with an arrow on his head riding a 6 legged bison.