AvP epic fail or not?

[chozo_hybrid]

I'm still playing the game since day 1. Why the hell is everyone basing their opinion on a game they havn't played on a demo with only one game mode and 9-month old code?

I'm enjoying the game tons. There's flaws, yes, but you can easilly overlook them. The game's made for multiplayer as well, anyways, so don't be surprised if the campaigns are weak, they're also short considering they had to work on three seperate ones.

This is my stance.

People judging on the demo alone is rather annoying, that's like judging a pizza when you only try the crust.

THANK YOU.

Also kinda iffed about it, because the campaigns have some sequel potential, but thanks to shit-stain reviewers, it probably won't happen.

You're quite welcome, I'm glad someone liked my analogy.

From what I hear, it's still selling quite well, so there's hope.

 

[Sonicron]

Okay, I like the game (and you can disregard my advice at any time, as I'm a self-confessed AvP nerd) but it's not as much a piece of crap as a lot of reviewers have said.

Okay, it has a few bugs (notably a failure to transfer rank between consoles for multiplayer) and it feels like it's missing a few things (Again, the multiplayer, with it's rank system and variety of skins, almost begs to get some CoD-esque perk system.) but while these are annoying, the game is extremely good in a lot of areas. Compared to most games, they've pulled off first-person melee very well, and each race feels unique and useful in it's own way.

AvP has no fatal flaws, but sadly lacks anything that truly lifts it into the realm of 'amazing games'. In the end, it comes down to if you like the series, and how willing you are to deal with a few annoyances.

In the end, it's all a matter of taste.

I find myself agreeing with this. I don't know about the multiplayer stuff because I honestly haven't tried it yet, but I've had a blast with the campaigns so far (haven't beaten them all yet). In the end it comes down to personal taste and whether you are involved in the franchise (and if yes, to the degree you're involved). I, for one, have been looking forward to this game, and even though the new controls take some getting used to (I've got the PC version) they ultimately aren't game-breaking, and everything else is just gravy - the game is nice and visceral and does the franchise justice.

OP: Fast typer or not, spellcheckers are available everywhere on the web - use them. Being forced to decipher every other word and flailing to grasp a coherent sentence structure is NOT fun.

 

[NOT WILL]

I played 1 round of the online and stopped because I found it lacking because the classes were unbalanced

 

[Buizel91]

the thing is...with this game, they have made it more balanced, sure it shouldn't be, but you don't want 600.000.000 people shouting and screaming all day do you?

i love this game even the multiplayer, for me...they did a good job =3

 

[AVATAR_RAGE]

i think everyone is being too harsh on this game, i think it's fun, playing through the story was great and made sense once I played through all 3 stories. The graphics are great, especially the lighting. But the controls are a little fiddly at 1st, but nothing major. Tbh I have enjoyed it allot more than MW2 and the campaign lasted longer. My only problem is the lack of people playing the multiplayer at the moment. The foundation for a great multiplayer experiance is there but because of the game getting poor reviews (and people who lack the ability to use their own brain) the games multiplayer is suffering.

my verdict is it's a must buy, but if your not usre rent it 1st

 

[Buizel91]

i think everyone is being too harsh on this game, i think it's fun, playing through the story was great and made sense once I played through all 3 stories. The graphics are great, especially the lighting. But the controls are a little fiddly at 1st, but nothing major. Tbh I have enjoyed it allot more than MW2 and the campaign lasted longer. My only problem is the lack of people playing the multiplayer at the moment. The foundation for a great multiplayer experiance is there but because of the game getting poor reviews (and people who lack the ability to use their own brain) the games multiplayer is suffering.

my verdict is it's a must buy, but if your not usre rent it 1st

completely agree, i think people need to be independent when it comes to gaming and stop listening to them, the person who reviewed it might not like it, but it doesn't mean you wont =)

 

[Uszi]

I played 1 round of the online and stopped because I found it lacking because the classes were unbalanced

I find them well balanced.
But then again, I'm close to 15 hours of multiplayer... So I guess that wouldn't be true if I agreed with you.

I like the pizza comment made earlier about judging pizza based on it's crust. Lots of hate for a demo based on pre-release code, which even flashes a warning: Not Indicative of Future Content.

 

[Pariah87]

I'm still quite enjoying the game. I went straight in on Nightmare difficulty and have just about finished the Alien and Predator campaigns. Even so there are problems. Marine voice acting is limited and repetetive "Don't let your guard down yet marines!"

Most of my time has been spent on Multiplayer though. Infestation is a blast, especially on the pyramid map, almost complete darkness and the beeping of the motion tracker add some pretty tense moments.

Species Team Deathmatch is a little imbalanced I've found with Predators normally coming out on top. Even if just 2 out of the 4 work together all tooled up with weapons, they will bring in alot of kills. I do think it's my love of the two franchises (not the AVP films, I tried watching requiem again the other night and barely made it to the end) that keeps me playing the game and I shall continue to do so for a while yet.

It certainly has its flaws, but I wouldn't concider it an epic fail.

 

[Tharwen]

So you're pissed because.... you suck at the game?

...and so we revert to a Halo 1-esque hate war.

 

[Nomanslander]

I wouldn't call it a "massive failure" unlike Rebellions other title, RogueWarrior. It's just mediocre if you ask me.

Probably ok for a rental just like the AvP movies...=/

 

[sootyuk]

I was a massive fan of the original avp, and avp2. I whiled away hours on the multiplayer (when you still had to muck about with ipx protocols to get networking running) in uni, the joys of having a completely open 10meg up/down connection when the rest of the country was on dial up I was kind of expecting the new game to be a bit of an overhaul, but still the same basic gameplay underneath.

so far I've been a bit disappointed, the alien still has some of the disorientation, but the fisheye vision was dropped, presumably to make it less so, the original was seriously nauseating! The marine was always hardcore, great once you got the knack, but insanely difficult before that, which seems to have been 'balanced' out a bit. I haven't really had chance to try the predator yet, but previously, they were always massively overpowered, intentionally so. The original game was intentionally unbalanced, it took a swarm of aliens to take down a good marine player, and a swarm of marine players to take down a good predator. The restrictive vision modes balanced it all out for the predator, you could only see one at a time, so ganging up worked really well.

The major reason i got this was for the multiplayer, but that has been the most disappointing of all, maybe it's just the 360 though. I've had no luck at all, unable to find specific game type matches, and when going for random types most have had the host drop out halfway through. Even avp1, 12 years ago, could dynamically pass the host to another machine if they got cut off, or dropped out, but this version doesn't seem to be able to, it just seems to kick everyone!

I have even gone back and tried the earlier games, so i know how graphically limited they were (hard to imagine, but they really were impressive! Back in the day) but i still think they have the 'fun' element this new one is missing.

 

[Remleiz]

It's not bad at all, it's just, well, to short. I beat the Alien and Marine campaigns within 2 hours each.

I hope for DLC they don't do the multiplayer map/skin bullshit and instead add some more single player campaigns that can tie in, like for example:

* Play a campaign as a Predalien that is in the game, or a Praetorian
* A campaign as one of the Predator youngbloods, or a captive one, where you have to escape a research lab.

y'know, somthing like that

 

[clutch-monkey]

like i said elsewhere, the marine single player is sooo generic.
only saving grace is the atmosphere and killing aliens.
the alien campaign is really good imo. predator one falls in between.

 

[Xyphon]

Only thing about it that's horrible is the fucking matchmaking system for ranked matches. Wait a good amount of time for a match, start the match and the fucking host immediately leaves the game because they're not the species they want to be. So, all that time waiting for a match is wasted for 5 seconds of gameplay before you're put back to the damn menu screen.

Once or twice in a row? I can take it.

4 times in a row? Starts to get aggravating.

7 times in a row? Bullshit.

10 times in a row? Screw you guys, I'm going home.

Really, why couldn't they put the people who DIDN'T leave back in the room, choose a new host, and either wait for a replacement player or just start the game?

 

[sootyuk]

Yay, i completely agree, why can;t the multiplayer system have a vague memory, if it can't dynamically pass the host why can't it, at least, continue on to the next level if a multiplayer game actually does manage to complete.

I would quite like to be able to continue on with a group rather than being kicked and forced to find completely new group every time.

 

[Canid117]

It couldn't possibly be worse than the movies.

...

...could it?

Oh god, nothing could be worse than those abominations. I mean you get two godly franchises how the FUCK did they manage to stuff that up. I'm so fucking pissed at you Larry!

Its easy. You make one into a generic Pg-13 action movie. Then you make the other into a generic Horror movie. Add some shitty acting and a lame plot and you sir are home free.

Don't forget to base it around humans you don't care about. And make the second have some ridiculous teen romance thing going on. It was like generic American teen drama number 256 with aliens and predators.

At least the Predator was bad ass in the second one again. In the first AVP 2/3 of the predators got killed in their first encounter with the aliens. They got killed in the lamest ways too.

 

[Axzarious]

Although this game is not AvP 2, and could have been more like it (More PC minded controls I guess. Developing with the consoles in mind might have held it back a bit here), One thing that baffles me, is that yes, Rebellion should have borrowed from Monolith's improvements to the game, mainly with the different multiplayer 'classes', however, I also dont like the route of them borrowing from CoD or Halo. While they did try something new, they also went and mixed 'mainstream' in there as well, which bothered me.

Unfortunately, it seems that in the world of FPS today, if you try something new and different, and you are not Half Life, you are going to get the hammer for it. How Halo, and CoD, essentially being the same game, but with minor gameplay tweaks and a different 'story', being released every few years, and can consistantly garner good reviews saddens me to a point. They do nothing new, and are praised... and AvP tries to do something new, and throws in some nods to the mechanics of CoD and get panned for it.... The most retarded complaints I have seen was complaining about the lack of irons, leaning, and crouching. The game does not need that, as you will die if it did- heck, crouching was in AvP 2 but nobody used it because of the loss of speed.

 

[clutch-monkey]

anybody else find it immensely satisfying to square off against an alien one-on-one with a pistol as a marine? mp or campaign. and blowing it's head to pieces with a three round burst.

 

[Entreri481]

Love the game, very balanced classes, but the matchmaking is so bad it's not worth playing anymore

 

[TPiddy]

So you're pissed because.... you suck at the game?

...and so we revert to a Halo 1-esque hate war.

Not really trying to start a hate war but it sounds like his complaints center around his inability to be good at the game. Now this could be partly the game's fault, but I haven't heard anyone else complaint about a steep difficulty curve or bad control scheme yet.