Azeroth Choppers Reveals Winning World of Warcraft Motorcycle

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Vareoth

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VanQ said:
Vareoth said:
Pot kettle black.
Did you miss the part where I said I play both factions with dedicated toons? I've played both factions since launch and it's my honest opinion that Alliance has this smug attitude towards the Horde.
No I didn't miss that part. Its absolutely fine that you prefer the Horde over the Alliance. Personally I had a good time playing Alliance most of the time. I just thought it was a bit funny when you spoke against trash talking the Horde and then continued by saying that the Alliance are full of children and elitists.

It was just meant as a quick jape. Didn't mean any insult.
 

VanQ

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Vareoth said:
No I didn't miss that part. Its absolutely fine that you prefer the Horde over the Alliance. Personally I had a good time playing Alliance most of the time. I just thought it was a bit funny when you spoke against trash talking the Horde and then continued by saying that the Alliance are full of children and elitists.

It was just meant as a quick jape. Didn't mean any insult.
I didn't take offense, no worries. Besides, we have a perfect example of what I'm talking about right here:

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And experience has shown that the Horde is a collective of the douchiest players WoW has to offer, that only attract like-minded "jerk jock" types that spend their day screaming "FOR THE HORDE" and smugly proclaiming that the Horde is "clearly" the more mature faction than those "Filthy alliance QQers", mostly to draw attention from the fact they're essentially a collective of sweaty man-children.

The Alliance players are more friendly, approachable, and relaxed. The best part is you don't have to wear black and red old stained underwear to "fit in" among the Alliance.

EDIT: But, as I said before, that Corpsegrinder video is pretty much the most accurate depiction of the Horde playerbase. Someone tells you a Horde player, theeeeeeen that's basically what you can expect.
Thanks for proving my point. There are douches on both factions and I've never once heard any Horde player claim to be more mature than the Alliance, though it has always been a sentiment my Alliance friends have held. I don't know if you were unfortunate enough to have your only experience of Horde be on Illidan server or something but their community is an example of an exception to the rule. Hell, the biggest Douchebags in Illidan history, know for being the douchiest server, were Alliance. Serenity Now and Gnomeland Security may be long gone but no one has topped their levels of trolling since.
 

viranimus

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Yeah yeah.. Horde is more popular and we know why


I would not play alliance. Hell I recently bought a mystery gaming shirt 2 pack of which one was an alliance shirt that immediately got sold to the kid next door. But even with how lame the alliance is, Honestly I think the horde bike is a joke in comparison.

Now bear with me before you gather the pitchforks and boil the tar.

Just being objective here, the horde bike is exactly that.... Just another motor cycle with some expensive theme job, in this case one specific to a faction to WoW. Pretty much no different than thousands of custom jobs out there. The Ally Bike is bizarre, visually unsettling and dare I say more unique.

They both have their own "cool" factors, but the Horde bike is more likely only going to appeal to those intimately familiar with WoW and moreover the horde faction. Whereas the ally bike with its odd layout, dual tracks, carapace looking sections, ect would have muuuuch more potential to "WoW" a casual observer with no knowledge or connection to WoW or even gaming. All things being equal, the Ally bike pushes the envelop of what can be visually appealing therefore the level of aesthetic quality ascends beyond the context of the contest, which as far as I see has the two bikes playing in two different leagues.

tl;dr
Basically appreciation for the horde bike would extend about as far as WoW fans, whereas appreciation for the ally bike has MUCH more potential to appeal just about anyone who has interest in motorcycles.

Edit: Honestly the only thing I see that looks negative on the ally bike is the stupid scimitar shaped fork guards, but in all fairness, I have the exact same complaint about the horde bikes Tusk guards, both of which take something that looks aggressive and imposing, and makes it look downright childish and goofy.

But meh... who cares.. they are just mock ups to be imported into polygonal digitized form for two factions of a game that took a less mature, cartoonish, PG-13-ish approach to the normally serious business that is medieval fantasy setting. So perhaps they are idea for the intended demographic.
 

gamegod25

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viranimus said:
Yeah yeah.. Horde is more popular and we know why

Except that the Horde (as a whole) isn't really evil, they are just different. Likewise the Alliance isn't "good" as they can be just as raciest, hateful, and blood thirsty as the Horde.

What initially pushed toward the Horde was because of their diversity. On the Alliance it was your bog standard fantasy races of boring humans, dwarves, elves, and gnomes. Meanwhile you had awesome Taurens,undead, trolls and orcs that were all far more interesting to me. Beyond that the feeling of the Alliance being smug self righteous assholes also pushed me away from them. Both sides are not clear cut good or evil but I just felt more at home with the Horde than with the Alliance.
 

LazyAza

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So alliance players are screwed over entirely basically. Great job blizzard you assholes.
 

Kenjitsuka

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"The mount will be free for all Horde players."
Whaaaaaat? Surely EVERYONE should be allowed to GET it, right? Maybe Alliance pays some gold?
Otherwise; Blizz, you're acting like massive assholes!
 

EbonBehelit

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I'm not surprised that the Horde bike won. Hell, it would've won even if it DIDN'T look far better than the Alliance bike: the Horde has ALWAYS been the 'favoured' faction, both by Blizzard, and the playerbase at large.

Surely the Alliance will get the bike too, though. The Horde already HAS a trike and it's own version of the chopper, so this new mount seems almost superfluous.
 

viranimus

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gamegod25 said:
Except that the Horde (as a whole) isn't really evil, they are just different. Likewise the Alliance isn't "good" as they can be just as racist, hateful, and blood thirsty as the Horde.

What initially pushed toward the Horde was because of their diversity. On the Alliance it was your bog standard fantasy races of boring humans, Dwarves, elves, and gnomes. Meanwhile you had awesome Taurens,undead, trolls and orcs that were all far more interesting to me. Beyond that the feeling of the Alliance being smug self righteous assholes also pushed me away from them. Both sides are not clear cut good or evil but I just felt more at home with the Horde than with the Alliance.
Please forgive the facetious setup at the offset in order to justify referencing a line from a classic comedy film. All just for the chuckles.

Just to touch on the dichotomy, I get that if you dig deep enough the horde and ally are just different flavors of grey, but the core the notion of ally good/horde evil stems from logical role play context akin to those standard fantasy settings as the more "humanoid" races would see themselves as valiant heroes and look at the horde as subhuman beasts, abominations and the tainted souls. They undoubtedly would see them as warlike savages which would have to be at the heart of what spawned the animosity to begin with. More to the point while the Horde may more existential realists about their nature and do not try to portray themselves as good or evil whereas the races of the alliance, despite all their racism, hatred and blood lust they delude themselves into thinking they embody nobility, virtue and put themselves on the side of "good".

By virtue of one faction identifying as "the good guys" it unavoidably puts the whole good vs evil trope into play. Be it rational or not. Any thinking individual might be able to see the hypocrisy and moral ambiguity no true good or evil, but from a sociological perspective regarding a fictional fantasy faction, good and evil still very much colors group behavior, at least for the one faction anyway.

Also forgive the philosophizing and silly over analysis.

Captcha: Hard captcha is hard.
You know captcha, you can totally take a break, No one is going to complain if you let kinda lazy about doing your job.
 

jackpipsam

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I am a Horde player, but I still voted for the Alliance bike.

I thought it looked cooler, but eh the Horde bike still good cool.
(I will still be using my Sparkle mount though).
 

Kuredan

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I really liked the shiny bits on the Alliance bike, especially the emblem in the front and would have liked to see it translated into the game. I could have done without the treads or scimitars. The Horde bike typified everything about the Horde: brutal, loud, and redolent in red and black.

People have commented on the Horde players. I've played both Horde and Alliance since the second beta (remember before Taurens had mounts?) and there are rude people on both sides and genuinely nice ones as well. I suppose it depends on what you're trying to get out of it. People who focus solely on the end game content and raid all the time are very different from people who play as a family for fun. Raiders are brusque, impatient, arrogant and judgmental. Casuals are uncoordinated, inattentive, are frequently interrupted by real life, and sometimes a bit thick. Raider are also dedicated, professional (if such a term can be used), and display ingenuity and perseverance. Casuals are friendly, accepting, patient, and easy-going. I am of course speaking in generalities but I just wanted to highlight the dichotomies in the game. You can find both to be true for Horde and Alliance, raiders and casuals alike. All in all, I prefer the Alliance. I love their take on Dwarves (I especially like the Bronzebeard brothers and the Wildhammers), and I love the technological insanity of the Gnomes.) I still have a lot of respect for the Tauren on the Horde side. They seem to have the wisdom the other races lack.

I have always found it more interesting that while Blizzard has favored the Horde for so many years, to include that pathetic display at Blizzcon 2011, that story-wise The Horde is portrayed in a much more negative light.

Everything from the Forsaken concocting plagues and using Valkyries to create more undead (by killing everyone else), to the "True Horde" going raving nanners and Garrosh killing Cairn Bloodhoof (don't give me that garbage about how it was a mistake and Magathra Grimtotem poisoned Garrosh's axe. The only reason Cairne was in combat with Garrosh in the first place was that he was killing druids), the Blood Elves enslaving Naaru and turning to Burning Legion as a new source of magic, to the Goblin's strip mining and pollution all show the greed and shortsighted goals of the Horde. The only Horde races portrayed as noble are the Tauren and Pandaran (which I consider neither Horde or Alliance). I have a lot of respect for Thrall though; He just wanted to make a home for his people and return them to their shamanistic roots. Too much to ask for I guess.

In contrast the Alliance's worse crime is leveled at the Human King Varian Wrynn, who has been known to call Orcs mongrels and dogs and see them as subhuman. Not the best qualities to have but as far as the story goes, he was enslaved by Orcs and made to fight in a gladiator Arena. I don't think I'd like them much after that either. He really got mad in WoLK going as far as to say "Kill em all." In Cataclysm the Ally/Horde War was renewed and he pretty much kept that same tone which was also mirrored in Garrosh. In MoP it seems like events have transpired that have tempered the Kings Anger. If you read the comics and books, he does something that takes away some of that anger and balances him out. His overriding emotion in MoP is concern for his son. If anything the character Admiral Taylor has supplanted him as prime Jerk of the Alliance. In fact if you play the Scenarios in MoP and listen to the King's dialogue he has grown much wiser and more concerned with unity in the Alliance.

That all being said, as much I as love the lore and story, it's all just fantasy from a pretend game. I'm sure a diehard Horde player could spin a tale putting his favored faction in the more positive light too. Rivalry is fine, but when it spills out the fantasy world and into the real world and is encouraged by the makers of the fantasy world, it's not cute or thematic. It's thuggery.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to get back to playing Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
 

Buckets

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Played Alliance for the most part but we had a great international guild who didn't take it all seriously so had some great raids, felt at ease and even met up in real life for a curry (even the folks from Europe came).
I do like my horde characters also and find for the most part pick up groups are far better hordeside.
I don't have an active account at the moment but will restart again when the new expansion comes out for a few months, I generally level a character on both sides as the story arcs are the main draw for me. Instances and raids don't really hold any interest for me anymore, but will probably PUG a few anyway.

I preferred the Horde Bike as the front/rear inline tracks on the alliance one looked weird. The half track on the Horde one looked right especially as it was a trike too. The horde one also had the whole feral/animal look which really worked as that's the horde's schtick. I liked the armour plated look on the alliance one but didn't feel it did enough, think a bit of gnome tech or magic (glowy neon) would have raised it up more.
 

Waaghpowa

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gamegod25 said:
Except that the Horde (as a whole) isn't really evil, they are just different. Likewise the Alliance isn't "good" as they can be just as raciest, hateful, and blood thirsty as the Horde.

What initially pushed toward the Horde was because of their diversity. On the Alliance it was your bog standard fantasy races of boring humans, dwarves, elves, and gnomes. Meanwhile you had awesome Taurens,undead, trolls and orcs that were all far more interesting to me. Beyond that the feeling of the Alliance being smug self righteous assholes also pushed me away from them. Both sides are not clear cut good or evil but I just felt more at home with the Horde than with the Alliance.
I would argue that the Horde was created because of the Alliances bigotry and racism. In fact, Lorthemar Theron says that in one of the quests for Domination Offensive after Jaina started attacking and killing innocent civilians who identified as sunreavers in Dalaran because she has a grudge against the Horde.

Now granted, not everyone in the Horde is all good. Garrosh is clearly a hateful racist who was responsible for the attack on Theremore, which is the reason Jaina is pissed (and the Siege of Orgrimmar, but that's a different story). But the reason the Horde formed after Warcraft 3 was to be a place for those who had nowhere else to go. And part of that was from general hostility from the Alliance. With that, I agree that the Alliance come off as being self righteous assholes, and they are.

I could get into the whole lore side of things about how Orcs were never really bad, just manipulated into doing bad things by demons, but that would be going off on a tangent.
 

Rattja

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People people, calm down. Of course the horde one won, it's actually kinda, sort of a bike. The contest was to build the best bike right? Chopper, whatever, point is the Alliance one is not a bike, that my friends is a snowmobile.

But seriously now, what's with the belts?