Bad personal experiences with women = justification for sexism and misogyny?

[Zac_Dai]

I think Aesop Rock sums it up best:

"Life's not a ***** life is a beautiful woman
Your only call her a ***** because she won't let you get that pussy
Maybe she didn't feel y'all shared any similar interests
Or maybe you're just an asshole who couldn't sweet talk the princess"

Although Aesop is talking about life it applies well to the virgin men women haters that you get on the internet.

 

[Erana]

People do these kinds of things all the time, lump any group of people in together just because a minority have done something negative to them. But the people who do this in my opinion are blind to the fact that everyone is an individual, and you can't group any gender, race or creed together. So I suppose yeah, it is just people being as irrational as ever (whoops I kind of made a generalisation myself).

That kinda reminds me of that saying "All generalisations are inaccurate".

Exactly that, couldn't have put it better.

Unfortunately, our minds are based in generalizations. And in some way, its even a beautiful thing. Like, these two pens are in my hand, but they are, in fact, both pens. And the fact that we can concieve of numbers.
Its that when hate gets involved...

 

[Raptoricus]

People do these kinds of things all the time, lump any group of people in together just because a minority have done something negative to them. But the people who do this in my opinion are blind to the fact that everyone is an individual, and you can't group any gender, race or creed together. So I suppose yeah, it is just people being as irrational as ever (whoops I kind of made a generalisation myself).

That kinda reminds me of that saying "All generalisations are inaccurate".

Exactly that, couldn't have put it better.

Unfortunately, our minds are based in generalizations. And in some way, its even a beautiful thing. Like, these two pens are in my hand, but they are, in fact, both pens. And the fact that we can concieve of numbers.
Its that when hate gets involved...

I suppose, there are some generalisations that are true, but I'd say that generalisations with people are never true, simply because we are all individuals.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

I think Matt Groening was right "With love, all men are stupid, all women are crazy"

And also "women are from Omicron Persei 7, men are from Omicron Persei 9".

 

[WolfThomas]

I think Matt Groening was right "With love, all men are stupid, all women are crazy"

And also "women are from Omicron Persei 7, men are from Omicron Persei 9".

I doff my hat to you good sir.

 

[Labyrinth]

It's just silly to hate an entire group of people because of the actions of one. Hell, if I went off the bad experiences I'd had with males I'd have gone postal long ago. To be honest I'd hate women too by that mark.

Tarring with the same brush is a bad habit. It gets people into uncomfortable and unnecessary situations.

 

[HSIAMetalKing]

I think it's perfectly logical to hate an entire group of something because of bad past experiences. Why, I was once bitten by a snake and now I hate all snakes. It's a natural self-preservation response.

 

[sheic99]

People do these kinds of things all the time, lump any group of people in together just because a minority have done something negative to them. But the people who do this in my opinion are blind to the fact that everyone is an individual, and you can't group any gender, race or creed together. So I suppose yeah, it is just people being as irrational as ever (whoops I kind of made a generalisation myself).

That kinda reminds me of that saying "All generalisations are inaccurate".

Exactly that, couldn't have put it better.

Unfortunately, our minds are based in generalizations. And in some way, its even a beautiful thing. Like, these two pens are in my hand, but they are, in fact, both pens. And the fact that we can concieve of numbers.
Its that when hate gets involved...

I suppose, there are some generalisations that are true, but I'd say that generalisations with people are never true, simply because we are all individuals.

Nobody is individual or unique, we all share that trait.

There is also a load of irony in your last statement.

 

[LordCraigus]

I think it's perfectly logical to hate an entire group of something because of bad past experiences. Why, I was once bitten by a snake and now I hate all snakes. It's a natural self-preservation response.

Despite my opinion against letting bad experiences tar you in a negative way, it's hard to argue with that.

 

[Raptoricus]

Nobody is individual or unique, we all share that trait.

There is also a load of irony in your last statement.

I don't mind you saying that there was irony in my post, but come on, of course we're all individuals, what do you think personality is?

 

[LordCraigus]

The whole human race is guilty of making irrational generalizations about the opposite sex, other races, religions, or cultures. I'd say it's part of human nature, but that might make me sound like a misanthrope.

I'd say it was human nature too, but by our own standards and values many parts of human nature are considered 'wrong' which is quite the contradiction in itself really.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

mspence: House.(While not a sitcom)

Bails 13 out in episode "Lucky Thirteen" out of being drug-tested.

 

[LordCraigus]

mspence: House.(While not a sitcom)

Bails 13 out in episode "Lucky Thirteen" out of being drug-tested.

I think House is more about misanthropy than misogyny. But House being a male character you're naturally going to be able to derive more misogynistic opinions from his words.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Good point, but then he asked for something where the male is intelligent compared to the female.

(Then again it waivers with the rationality at times, where he just randomly treats people and they get better.)

 

[cleverlymadeup]

What about women that have had a bad experience with men, and become sexist over that? Same thing

actually it's acceptable, a lot of women bash men openly but if a guy does it, it's an hr violation

it's really a double standard

 

[sheic99]

Nobody is individual or unique, we all share that trait.

There is also a load of irony in your last statement.

I don't mind you saying that there was irony in my post, but come on, of course we're all individuals, what do you think personality is?

But if we are all different, then we all share that trait making us the same.

 

[savandicus]

Some guys are complete gits
Some guys arent
Some girls are just around to spew sexist comments
Some girls arent

We learn by our experiences and if you've met 10 men and they've all been sexist bigots then its perfectly natural to expect the next man to also be a sexist bigot. However there is a difference between expecting and them being.

Expect dont assume would be my motto

 

[beddo]

So, I've seen a lot of threads lately that bring up gender-related issues, and many people have made sexist (particularly towards misogyny) comments, then rationalize them with their own, personal experience.
The world population is about equally divided between men and women. So why is it that someone could define half of all people in the world as being the same as one person they've met?
I know there are plenty of both decent and unpleasant men, with a whole range inbetween dispite my many bad experiences with the male sex, through my own personal experience. So, is there something I'm missing, or am I trying to rationalize the irrational?

(Sure, there is misandry in the world, too, but I've never seen any serious accounts of that here.)

People don't tend to see misandry because they don't look for it or recognise it when they see it. I quite often see comments on this forum which are misadrist from both men and women. Often they're just retorts to misogynistic comment.

Some sexist ideals that are generally accepted in our society or not challenged to a great extent; men should not cry, men should go into the army, men should do national service but women shouldn't, women and children should be saved over men, that male rape is not a serious as female rape, that men can't be raped by women, that it's acceptable that men are raped in jail, that it's acceptable to threaten men with rape in jail, that men should not be house husbands, that men should be the 'bread winner', that it's acceptable to hit a man but not a woman(neither is), that men tend to serve longer jail sentences than women, that men don't have as many parental rights as women, that men should not show emotions and the list goes on.


The most recent case I saw of Misandrist behaviour was by an Australian magistrate who indirectly threatened a teenager by saying he would be raped in jail. The teenager was guilty of traffic offences.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/4140527/Magistrate-warns-of-big-hairy-men-in-jail-if-criminal-reoffends.html

Imagine if he had said that to a woman, there would be outrage. Well, in this case there is outrage from me if no-one else.

 

[Raptoricus]

Nobody is individual or unique, we all share that trait.

There is also a load of irony in your last statement.

I don't mind you saying that there was irony in my post, but come on, of course we're all individuals, what do you think personality is?

But if we are all different, then we all share that trait making us the same.

So we're all the same because we're different? Well I'm not one for arguing, so I'm not going to, your entitled to your opinion.