Bahar Mustafa is being investigated by Scotland Yard

[Angelblaze]

Always nice to come into a thread like this and see a bunch of people attributing the actions of a few people to the totality of feminists.

'Not all men' only applies when its you on the receiving end, eh?

OT: This really should've been posted as an update on the original thread, but its good to see this getting attention. Here's hoping she gets removed from her position, given she lacks the capability and capacity (along with the outright lacking of bias) to stay in said position without the power going even further to her head.

Here's hoping, further, that this doesn't result in some strange law against free speech.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

Always nice to come into a thread like this and see a bunch of people attributing the actions of a few people to the totality of feminists.

'Not all men' only applies when its you on the receiving end, eh?

I'm just seeing people talking about this specific person or, at most, the radical fringe group she's representative of.

And nah. 'Not all X' applies to everyone, what with people being individuals and all.

OT: Good. Fuck 'er. Enjoy the male tears... of laughter. ;D

Sincerely, racism and bigotry knows not the arbitrary 'significance' of melanin content.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Always nice to come into a thread like this and see a bunch of people attributing the actions of a few people to the totality of feminists.

'Not all men' only applies when its you on the receiving end, eh?

OT: This really should've been posted as an update on the original thread, but its good to see this getting attention. Here's hoping she gets removed from her position, given she lacks the capability and capacity (along with the outright lacking of bias) to stay in said position without the power going even further to her head.

Here's hoping, further, that this doesn't result in some strange law against free speech.

She was voted into the position and clearly has a significant following.

The difference between radical feminists and radical MRAs are that there are radfems in positions of power and manage to get legislation passed and rules enforced.

 

[Bat Vader]

Mustafa? Isn't he one of Dr. Evil's henchmen? The guy with the fez?

Pretty sure he's Darth Vader.

David Prowse played Darth in the suit and James Earl Jones did the voice for Vader. If you're making some type of reference here I'm not seeing it.

On Topic: I have no idea who this woman is and have never heard of her before I clicked on this article.

 

[FalloutJack]

Mustafa? Isn't he one of Dr. Evil's henchmen? The guy with the fez?

Pretty sure he's Darth Vader.

NOT MUFASA!! Mustafa! Aaaaaaaarrrghle!!

*Flails around and falls over due to punnery*

Mustafa? Isn't he one of Dr. Evil's henchmen? The guy with the fez?

Pretty sure he's Darth Vader.

David Prowse played Darth in the suit and James Earl Jones did the voice for Vader. If you're making some type of reference here I'm not seeing it.

Please see above for answer.

 

[TakerFoxx]

Mustafa? Isn't he one of Dr. Evil's henchmen? The guy with the fez?

Pretty sure he's Darth Vader.

David Prowse played Darth in the suit and James Earl Jones did the voice for Vader. If you're making some type of reference here I'm not seeing it.

On Topic: I have no idea who this woman is and have never heard of her before I clicked on this article.

James Earl Jones also voiced Mufasa in the Lion King.

 

[Bat Vader]

Mustafa? Isn't he one of Dr. Evil's henchmen? The guy with the fez?

Pretty sure he's Darth Vader.

David Prowse played Darth in the suit and James Earl Jones did the voice for Vader. If you're making some type of reference here I'm not seeing it.

On Topic: I have no idea who this woman is and have never heard of her before I clicked on this article.

James Earl Jones also voiced Mufasa in the Lion King.

I know. I just didn't get the joke at first because of the name. Mufasa went out like a chump though.

 

[verdant monkai]

What is with radical feminists and piercings/dyed hair?

Vibrant hair its the female fedora.

As for the piercings I think thats just their way of trying to be edgy.

Needless to say I don't think she is a nice person, or someone worth spending time listening to.

 

[Albino Boo]

Regarding this, it would be interesting to see the number of people who consider criticism to be a stifling of free speech, but who are also finding joy in the police being called because this girls speech offended them.

Threats to kill are not legal oddly enough, regardless who makes them.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

Regarding this, it would be interesting to see the number of people who consider criticism to be a stifling of free speech, but who are also finding joy in the police being called because this girls speech offended them.

What?

Oh, no, no, nooo.

The police being involved in twitter nonsense is a straight up waste of their and, by extension, tax payer time.

Ie. It's hysterical.

If she gets jailed for a hash tag, no matter how ridiculously idiotic and bigoted she is, then I'll be one of the first folks up to decry the precedent being set. But for now?

Lulz.

 

[Gorrath]

From the article:

"It's a way of reclaiming the power from the trauma many of us experience as queers, women, people of colour, who are on the receiving end of racism, misogyny and homophobia daily," she added.

Way of reclaiming power eh? So saying racist/sexist/bigoted stuff is perfectly fine so long as you've been a victim of that stuff? What a perfectly awful philosophy. I presume she and those who hold that philosophy also have some nice double standards about who gets to say what bigoted stuff when and what constitutes a proper amount of suffering before they're granted their bigot license. I imgine she also fancies herself the gatekeeper for said license.

Hopefully she'll get the boot.

 

[Itsuki93]

Regarding this, it would be interesting to see the number of people who consider criticism to be a stifling of free speech, but who are also finding joy in the police being called because this girls speech offended them.

Threats to kill are not legal oddly enough, regardless who makes them.

"Threats" to kill is still free speech, oddly enough, regardless of who makes them.

The point isn't what was said, the point is highlighting possible double standards.

Threats to kill are illegal in the UK, which is where this is taking place.

 

[Gorrath]

Regarding this, it would be interesting to see the number of people who consider criticism to be a stifling of free speech, but who are also finding joy in the police being called because this girls speech offended them.

Threats to kill are not legal oddly enough, regardless who makes them.

"Threats" to kill is still free speech, oddly enough, regardless of who makes them.

The point isn't what was said, the point is highlighting possible double standards.

Well it does matter what she says. Not all speech is protected speech nor should it be. I don't consider criticism to be stifling free speech but I would consider threats to be outside the realm of free/protected speech. Merely retweeting the hashtag shouldn't constitute a threat though. I'd still like to see her canned for being a bigot but the police shouldn't be involved unless she made some specific threat.

Edit: I am aware the rules are different in the UK but my comments are made without regard to any country's specific laws in mind. WHat I say above I mean to be generally true.

 

[Fox12]

Wow, she sounds awful. Good on Scotland Yard.

Out of curiosity, can someone explain why Anita Sarkeesian is a radical feminist? I'm not a member of her fan club, but I don't think I've heard her say anything particularly extreme.

 

[Johnny Impact]

Bad dye jobs and worse piercings are seen as a way to be part of the different crowd and assert their individuality along with others who are different like them. In other words, to claim uniqueness by joining a group. Self-contradictory bull.

The frothing man-haters will trumpet that Mustafa is being victimized by the patriarchy, that hate speech is perfectly fine when it comes from a woman/minority, and so forth, because radical feminists gonna radical feminist. Mustafa could be caught on camera murdering babies and they'd swear the whole thing was staged as part of a smear campaign. Such is the nature of fanaticism.

 

[Drops a Sweet Katana]

Doesn't this seem a bit... much? I mean sure, she really shouldn't have said the things she said in such a public and unprofessional manner, but I didn't see anything that would warrant police involvement. Reprimands from the university and student union? Sure. The thing is, nothing she said really seems like it should be classified as legitimate hate speech. #killallwhitemen just seems like a juvenile, bratty way of riling people up on Twitter. Leave it to her employer to deal with her misbehaviour.

Regarding this, it would be interesting to see the number of people who consider criticism to be a stifling of free speech, but who are also finding joy in the police being called because this girls speech offended them.

This another very good point. I'm sure many here would scoff at the weak-kneed offended brigade kicking up a stink when some arse says something dumb and provocative over the internet (Twitter, usually). This feels too similar for my tastes.

 

[MonsterCrit]

As some people have been arrested for similar hate speech tweets in the past, I believe it is only fair that she should be hoisted by the same laws. We don't allow people to shout "Kill all the Muslims", so we shouldn't allow this either.

Anyway, after seeing her picture, it reminded me of a question that's been on my mind since GG and Anita Sarkeesian happened: What is with radical feminists and piercings/dyed hair?

There is a theory that when animals are toxic or poisonous, they have bright colours to warn others off.

On a more reasonable explanation, these people are so desperate for attention and to be different and "cooky hippy pixie girl" that they watch Scott Pilgrim once, think she is a cool girl and dye their hair and shove themselves full of metal. Frankly, I'm thankful, it provides a "Do not touch, probably crazy" sign for me to see.

You sort of have it backwards... the toxic animals don't evolve bright colours it's that everything that doesn't have the advantage of being fatally poisonous has to develop camoflauge.

As for the piercings and died hair.. it sort of makes sense. These are things people do because they want to draw attention to themselves. Look an Ms. A and this lady, look at their actions, all specifically designed to make themselves the focus of attention. I.e They're 'attention whores' You know like that ripped douche at the gym that keeps asking someone to check his form will he pops a squat.