Bands you liked or respected until...

[Worgen]

I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.

you got it so wrong its actually hilarious. you gave up easily the best band of the last 10 years over a misunderstanding you were at fault for. Its about the beautiful hypocrisy of religion.

I liked Metallica until load.
I liked muse till they found out what money is.
I liked slayer until i listened to a second slayer song. the intros are different but the rest is the same.(didn't like the first song much anyway.)

Oh please, they are far from the best band of the last 10 years, even when I liked them they weren't in my top 5, and I've never been one for the standard band music anyway, so that is saying something. Really all they have is a lead singer with a hell of a voice.

and more songwriting talent between them than any metal band .

and a great guitarist and back up vocalist in malakian. seriously. toxicity was the album of the decade. sure its been a pretty crap decade for music. and besides your "top 5" is your opinion, im not saying they are the best because i like them the most(and i dont) im saying it because they are by FAR the most creative band the worlds had in a while and brilliant and classy with their execution. and they kicked ass live

Being better song writers then most metal bands isn't much of a compliment.
No, the most creative band is Weird Al's band, it takes talent to do what he does, system is an pretty good band who takes a very very stupid stance in one of their songs, and that is enough for me to not like them.

NO they dont take a stupid stance, its about the HYPOCRISY of religion. did you not read my first post or do you not no that that word means.

I fail to see how the lines.... I'm not typing all that again, essentially saying science fails since it doesn't have faith, is about the hypocrisy of religion.

 

[BlackWidower]

I liked Metallica until they started suing their most loyal fans.

 

[Rule Britannia]

I liked three days grace a lot before I discovered they were druggy smokers ¬.¬.
I liked Greenday until I listened to something else (I still think Holiday is a good song though )

 

[Mr.Mattress]

I like Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band but... Recently I found out some rather disturbing things about him. The main thing I found out about him was the man was basically Charles Manson had he got the recording contract he wanted. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trout_Mask_Replica#Background] I mean, good god man. And it happened again on a second album, but it was actually worse then during Trout Mask Replica! And I don't like most of Trout Mask Replica to be honest.

Sorry for Ressurecting an old thread. I just thought you guys would like to know.

 

[Aidinthel]

I don't really pay attention to bands; I just collect songs that I like. For some reason whenever I do seek out an artist's other work I find that I don't like it very much.

 

[Lilani]

Also if anyone starts that whole Tarja vs Anette thing again I will come round your house with Kevin Smith and Jason Mewes and beat the snot out of you, ala J&SBSB. Fact.

Thank you! Man do I hate Anette VS Tarja arguments. If you hate Anette so much, then go listen to Tarja's stuff and leave us alone. What's done is done, and no amount of "zomg is so generic now ugh" hipster whining is going to change that.

Anyway, regardless of what Tuomus likes, Imaginarium looks awesome. And I'm quite fond of their new single.

As far as other bands...I can't say this has really happened to me yet. Any bands or artists I lost respect for I never actively listened to that much in the first place (Mariah Carey and Miley Cyrus I'm looking at you).

 

[papakapp]

I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.

How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.

I suddenly like system of a down a lot more now.

RE: the theme of the thread, I don't like republicans, George Bush, or country music, but when the Dixie Chicks went off on Bush, I would have quit listening to them if I ever had listened to them in the first place. I also lost respect for Green Day after "american idiot" and I lost respect for Eminem after "mosh". Pretty much whenever a singer gets political in their music I loose respect for them.

But for a band to sing about how cold rationalism is the death of real living, that is exactly what music is imho. Music is real living and the exact opposite of cold rationalism. Science is cold rationalism and not real living.

 

[Worgen]

I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.

How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.

I suddenly like system of a down a lot more now.

RE: the theme of the thread, I don't like republicans, George Bush, or country music, but when the Dixie Chicks went off on Bush, I would have quit listening to them if I ever had listened to them in the first place. I also lost respect for Green Day after "american idiot" and I lost respect for Eminem after "mosh". Pretty much whenever a singer gets political in their music I loose respect for them.

But for a band to sing about how cold rationalism is the death of real living, that is exactly what music is imho. Music is real living and the exact opposite of cold rationalism. Science is cold rationalism and not real living.

Ugh, its the thread that wont fucken die. The only people that think science is cold and rational are people that don't know science, I know science, science is a personal friend and has much more love then any faith.

 

[BathorysGraveland]

Well, I myself, have no problem if a bands members or even the lyrics are racist. Hell, I like Arghoslent for Christ's sake xD. It's just something that makes a band stand out I suppose, either for shock value or because they firmly stand my their beliefs (the Polish black metal scene is notorious for this). At the end of the day, if the music is good, I'll listen to it, whether the band are religious or National Socialists.

 

[papakapp]

I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.

How would you explain their line "Why cry when angels deserve to die?" in "Chop Suey"? Taking lines out of context aside, perhaps "Science" is just a commentary on the short-comings of science? How its ostensible promise of leading us into a new and better world is slightly undercut when you consider the horrors humanity has had to endure ever since the advent of the modern age? Its undervaluing of the more spiritual, intangible qualities inherent in human existence?

Just throwing that out there, feel free to agree or disagree. Honestly, System aren't even that good in my opinion, so you not listening to them certainly isn't much of a loss as far as I'm concerned. That being said, if there's one thing I'm not a fan of, it's rash decisions!

If they also didn't repeat "science has failed our world" over and over again then I might be more inclined to agree, plus it doesn't help that the song is damn catchy and I cant even think about these stupid lyrics without the damn thing getting stuck in my head. I liked it allot better before I knew what the words said.

I suddenly like system of a down a lot more now.

RE: the theme of the thread, I don't like republicans, George Bush, or country music, but when the Dixie Chicks went off on Bush, I would have quit listening to them if I ever had listened to them in the first place. I also lost respect for Green Day after "american idiot" and I lost respect for Eminem after "mosh". Pretty much whenever a singer gets political in their music I loose respect for them.

But for a band to sing about how cold rationalism is the death of real living, that is exactly what music is imho. Music is real living and the exact opposite of cold rationalism. Science is cold rationalism and not real living.

Ugh, its the thread that wont fucken die. The only people that think science is cold and rational are people that don't know science, I know science, science is a personal friend and has much more love then any faith.

Then you would make a horrible scientist. Science is unbiased and clinical. Based on your most recent post in this thread I can Objectively say that you are neither objective nor clinical on this issue as evidenced by your use of the subjective words :"love" and "friend".
This shows two things:

First, despite what you say you believe, you clearly are not "scientific" all the time. (science is Latin for knowledge, and you are not operating on knowledge at this time, you are operating on emotion).
Second, despite what you say about subjective things like "faith", you have a great deal of faith in the usefulness of the scientific method. There are two ways to deduce that the scientific method is a useful method of inquiry. Either you admit that you have faith that the scientific method is useful (as I do), or else you use the scientific method to prove that the scientific method is useful. That would be circular reasoning. So the first one is naked faith, and the second one is covert faith.

I'm all for clinical objectivity when it is warranted. I do it all the time. But I don't have faith in it. That is just another faith based system with its own zealots who, if they are true zealots, they will remain in self denial until they see the error of their ways.

(don't argue with me on the point about proto-religious self denial or you will just be proving my point. I would recommend that you objectively attempt to dismantle the argument from the regress problem [the argument that says that science can't be used to prove itself as a valid method of inquiry] if you want to have a sophisticated argument.) ...of course, nobody has been able to dismantle that for hundreds of years...


Plus, I like music and other arts. They have more meaning when there is more to life than rationalism.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Then:


Most recent I've heard:


Do I have to explain?

 

[duowolf]

I would have to say none. I listern to the music and if I like it I like it and if I don't I don't and that's it. I don't even know the names of the people in the most of the bands I listern to let alone what they belive in etc not that it would matter one way or another even if I did.

 

[artanis_neravar]

Rise against until I hared "Hero f war"

I kicked in the door
I yelled my commands
The children, they cried
But I got my man
We took him away
A bag over his face
From his family and his friends

They took off his clothes
They pissed in his hands
I told them to stop
But then I joined in
We beat him with guns
And batons not just once
But again and again

A hero of war
Yeah that's what I'll be
And when I come home
They'll be damn proud of me
I'll carry this flag
To the grave if I must
Because it's a flag that I love
And a flag that I trust

She walked through bullets and haze
I asked her to stop
I begged her to stay
But she pressed on
So I lifted my gun
And I fired away

The shells jumped through the smoke
And into the sand
That the blood now had soaked
She collapsed with a flag in her hand
A flag white as snow

Becuase thats totally what all soldier do isnt it.

Way to only quote the part of the song that fit your needs. The song is about how war isn't a glorious thing like so many young people think. As a soldier fighting in a war you have to do things that will most likely keep you up at night. The song goes on to say that all people see once the soldier got home are his medals and scars, not the inner turmoil of seeing and doing the things that he saw and had to do over there

 

[WouldYouKindly]

I suddenly like system of a down a lot more now.

RE: the theme of the thread, I don't like republicans, George Bush, or country music, but when the Dixie Chicks went off on Bush, I would have quit listening to them if I ever had listened to them in the first place. I also lost respect for Green Day after "american idiot" and I lost respect for Eminem after "mosh". Pretty much whenever a singer gets political in their music I loose respect for them.

But for a band to sing about how cold rationalism is the death of real living, that is exactly what music is imho. Music is real living and the exact opposite of cold rationalism. Science is cold rationalism and not real living.

I beg to differ. Bad Religion frequently offers an intellectual challenge to the irrationality of religion frequently. There are also scientific undertones since the lead singer and one of the songwriters has a PhD in evolutionary biology

Also, what about bands that were ALWAYS political? I can agree that I lost respect for Green Day when they jumped on the political bash Bush band wagon, but if someone has been critical or commented on politics for 20 years before what then? Is it that you just don't listen to them.

Also, incredibly, this came up.

Also,(last one I swear) System of a Down is political, they are just normally subtle about it.

 

[LokiArchetype]

I used to like system of the down until I heard the song science, well heard the song and actually listened to the lyrics, one of the lines is "science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith" to me that sounds like they are saying, "science sucks, yay faith" and faith is one of the more retarded things that people have, so fuck em.

Came here to post this as well.

"Science has failed our world, science has failed our mother earth."

How would one know if science had failed our world without science when science is the process by which one comes to understand the nature of the world?

"Oh my god, science and the progression of technology is causing global warming!" Oh that's interesting, how do you know about global warming? Oh yeah, science. How will we reverse it? Science, again.

Gotta love people who aren't Amish badmouthing science and technology as if it hasn't provided them with pretty much everything they have in life. Yeah, science has failed us in that it substantially reduced the childhood mortality rate so that you managed to live into adulthood and then gave you the tools necessary to broadcast your hypocritical drivel.

The single most potent element of human existence is the search for knowledge and understanding, not faith. What 'faith' means today doesn't even remotely resemble what 'faith' meant to religious people in the past, when religion and science were intertwined and religious philosophers like St Thomas Aquinas sought to logically prove the existence of God.

 

[artanis_neravar]

I suddenly like system of a down a lot more now.

RE: the theme of the thread, I don't like republicans, George Bush, or country music, but when the Dixie Chicks went off on Bush, I would have quit listening to them if I ever had listened to them in the first place. I also lost respect for Green Day after "american idiot" and I lost respect for Eminem after "mosh". Pretty much whenever a singer gets political in their music I loose respect for them.

But for a band to sing about how cold rationalism is the death of real living, that is exactly what music is imho. Music is real living and the exact opposite of cold rationalism. Science is cold rationalism and not real living.

I beg to differ. Bad Religion frequently offers an intellectual challenge to the irrationality of religion frequently. There are also scientific undertones since the lead singer and one of the songwriters has a PhD in evolutionary biology

Also, what about bands that were ALWAYS political? I can agree that I lost respect for Green Day when they jumped on the political bash Bush band wagon, but if someone has been critical or commented on politics for 20 years before what then? Is it that you just don't listen to them.

Also, incredibly, this came up.

Also,(last one I swear) System of a Down is political, they are just normally subtle about it.

Not quite political, but I love Guster, everyone of their songs, up until their latest CD which was extremely religious and just a turn off.