Banned from the UK

[uhgungawa]

LOL, the U.S. wouldn't let Cat Stevens into the country because he became a muslim back in the 70's ...

 

[bjj hero]

Yeah, fuck freedom of speech. Let's just ban everyone we don't agree with.

We dont have freedom of speech. There is no constitution on the UK protecting freedom of speech. Our laws are based on being able to do anything as long as the government doesn't say it is not allowed.

Hence you can be arrested for inciting racial hatred, swearing at a police officer, threats to kill etc. Try shouting bomb in an airport to see how free your speech really is.

 

[Nmil-ek]

Pastor Fred Phelps, Fukin A that asshat would be one of the top of my list thank you for once government now block the rest of the evangelical fundimentalist nuts.

 

[Tech Team FTW!]

In this case, they appear to be justified.

There is a very large likelihood of a crime being committed as a driect result of the words of these people.

For obvious enough reasons, I would ban Michael Atkinson from my country and replace him with someone at least partially competent.

Also known as 'Anyone else'.

Not Jack Thompson.

 

[Danzaivar]

Freedom of the citizenry != Freedom to enter

Keep people who are a danger to the country/peace out. If we want a radical opinion about a particular ideology, we can make it ourselves.

It's a shame that we don't keep more people out (I.e. Asylum seekers, they're supposed to stop at the FIRST country they enter, not wait in France until they find a lorry to jump on!)

 

[SirSisyphus]

In this case, they appear to be justified.

There is a very large likelihood of a crime being committed as a driect result of the words of these people.

And who determines this? Where is the proof? Speaking your mind can be judged acceptable based on the likelihood of a crime being committed as a result?

So long as the process of bannin has decent oversight, its ok by me

What consititues decent oversight? I believe the Soviets had "decent" oversight with the NKVD at one time.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

I'd ban everyone but me from britain. Just for a few days, to see what it would be like.

 

[Nmil-ek]

I could care less if it is a freedom of speech infigement this isnt america we dont have set rules on speech here. Frankly im glad these arseholes will never see our shores extremists do nothing to society what good does letting a man who spreaches death, hate and bigotry and disgust for the country that houses him have, none. People are smart enough to make there own decisions about what they hear? I would like to beleive so but no indoctrination has shown time and time again that what you are raised with is what you will likeley beleive. If it saves even a few children from dying in a terror attack or stupid arseholes from going down the wrong path making it worse for the rest of us then fine infringe free speech alittle.

 

[timmytom1]

If i say i hate miss Smith can i get banned from the UK too?

 

[Cheesus333]

Yeah, fuck freedom of speech. Let's just ban everyone we don't agree with.

Better than letting them run riot on killing sprees, I guess.

But that's the age old question, isn't it? Security or Freedom?

 

[internutt]

I don't mind. These people are fairly crazy. Especially the family who picket army funerals and bash gays. Best way to keep them out of trouble over here is to keep them out of here. Sure, we'd be happy to start debates with these sort of people, its just that these views can be quite dangerous if left unchecked. Its not like we are deporting Brits who have these opinions.

 

[sky14kemea]

Its not enough people we should kick out lots of the nutty racist/extremists who are already in our country. But yes I think they should be allowed to ban these people from entering our fair isle. I would ban David Cameron because he's a slimy git, also all chavs.

i like your way of thinking

but it could take years to round up all the chavs... XD

 

[xChevelle24]

Give this a read:

Uks least wanted list [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8033060.stm]

For those who can't be arsed the British government has released a list of people it will not allow into the country for spreading hate. I have the list here [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8033319.stm]. It includes a right wing US radio show host, skin head gangs, muslim preachers and members of the christian right.

My first question is:
Ignoring the comment that entering the UK is a privilage, should a governement be allowed to ban people who haven't committed a crime, just because they have unpopular views?

The second question is who would you ban from your country and why?

Although I don't live in the U.K., I agree with that list.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Its not enough people we should kick out lots of the nutty racist/extremists who are already in our country. But yes I think they should be allowed to ban these people from entering our fair isle. I would ban David Cameron because he's a slimy git, also all chavs.

That's like... A lot of people.

Brilliant, it'll halve the total benefits claims at a stroke (that's Cameron's claims of course).

 

[ffxfriek]

In this case, they appear to be justified.

There is a very large likelihood of a crime being committed as a driect result of the words of these people.

For obvious enough reasons, I would ban Michael Atkinson from my country and replace him with someone at least partially competent.

banning of michael savage he doesnt promote hate or any of that crap. he speaks of what is wrong with the country. saying we need to fix the borders, stop mass spending, return to morals and values. where is the violence i ask? he got a report by the US governemt department of homeland security and he asked why are veterans suspected terror suspects. i will try to find this for you. the report was extremely stupid and made no sense.




EDIT: i dont mean to hijack it and i know noone on this site really gives a care but me so here it is the report mentioned in my post http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

 

[Evertw]

Yay!

They banned Fred Phelps, lousy George Carlin hater.

 

[beholdmycape]

why isn't ABSOLUTELY ALL ASYLUM SEEKERS on that list?

This is satire right?

 

[LANCE420]

The UK has just proved themselves the most dickhead first world country in the world. This sounds a few steps off the USSR or Nazi Germany. whats next? Re-education camps? This is a stepping stone for this kind of behavior.

Of course, the UK has the right to not let someone in their country for any reason.
But they are sacrificing Freedom of speech for ethnic and political safety.

(We'd never do something like that in the USA!)=satire

 

[Doug]

Pastor Fred Phelps, Fukin A that asshat would be one of the top of my list thank you for once government now block the rest of the evangelical fundimentalist nuts.

Agreed. And I believe his entire church is barred.

And that 'Shock-jock' homophobe who thinks Autism is a fake disease. I've said this before, and I'll say it again, "People shouldn't have the right to be THAT stupid"