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Am I the only one who hates Tara Strong's Harley?
nope

she's obnoxious
She's supposed to be a bit obnoxious. She is a giant fangirl after all. Her cartoony voice fits better than this new inbetween, noncommiting voice.

Arleen Sorkin all the way, but if she isn't available Tara Strong is a good replacement.
She's on the bad side of obnoxious. It's not the content of what she says, but how she says it that's the problem. Her voice bounces between an undertone of grating, to full on just stop talking already.

Sorkin is class, all the way. She's affably obnoxious in the role. Entertaining to listen to when interacting with Conroy and Hamill.
Yeah, there's a difference between obnoxious and ear-splittingly grating.


 

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Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?

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Well fuck, the video is copyright blocked.
How's this one work for you?


Edit: Link changed because someone killed the last one...ok, seriously, who the heck is demanding that promotional material be removed?
 

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Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?

CoCage said:
Well fuck, the video is copyright blocked.
How's this one work for you?

Thank you, it works.
 

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Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
It's almost as if individuals who dress up in various costumes while committing/fighting crime and spending the vast majority of their lives beating the ever-loving shit out of (or outright killing) and suffer from continued psychological and physical trauma that apparently goes untreated by qualified professionals are not healthy and well-adjusted people.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
You kind of have to keep the Deathstroke Terra relationship going. It's a core part of the story. I haven't watched the new movie yet but was worried they'd mess it up like they did in the old animated series where it was Deathstroke Manipulating Terra, when she's supposed to be just as evil as he is. It's the point of the story that she's an irredeemable monster. Perhaps even moreso than Deathstroke.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
I just want Superman x Wonder Woman and Batman x Catwoman, is that too hard to ask DC?

I don't like Superman x Lois Lane because sometimes Lois is either boring or a ****.

I don't like Superman x Talia al Ghul because of Damien Wayne (ok mabye not that) but also because Talia is even less trust worthy than Catwoman cosidering Talia is Ra's Daughter. Catwoman at least is independent.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
I just want Superman x Wonder Woman and Batman x Catwoman, is that too hard to ask DC?

I don't like Superman x Lois Lane because sometimes Lois is either boring or a ****.

I don't like Superman x Talia al Ghul because of Damien Wayne (ok mabye not that) but also because Talia is even less trust worthy than Catwoman cosidering Talia is Ra's Daughter. Catwoman at least is independent.
For me its Lois and Clark or nothing. Yeah some people have written Lois poorly, but everyone gets written bad sometimes. To me it boils down to me wanting Clark in a relationship, not Superman. Superman is what he can do Clark is who he is and that's who I want to see with someone.

The stuff with Superman and Wonderwoman was just that to me Superman and Wonderwoman, and to me the trinity always works best as a group of close friends, Family. Either of them being involved with each other in a relationship has always been weird to me. I see Diana as Clark and Bruce's sister. Same as Bruce and Clark as Brothers.
 

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Winnosh said:
Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
I just want Superman x Wonder Woman and Batman x Catwoman, is that too hard to ask DC?

I don't like Superman x Lois Lane because sometimes Lois is either boring or a ****.

I don't like Superman x Talia al Ghul because of Damien Wayne (ok mabye not that) but also because Talia is even less trust worthy than Catwoman cosidering Talia is Ra's Daughter. Catwoman at least is independent.
For me its Lois and Clark or nothing. Yeah some people have written Lois poorly, but everyone gets written bad sometimes. To me it boils down to me wanting Clark in a relationship, not Superman. Superman is what he can do Clark is who he is and that's who I want to see with someone.

The stuff with Superman and Wonderwoman was just that to me Superman and Wonderwoman, and to me the trinity always works best as a group of close friends, Family. Either of them being involved with each other in a relationship has always been weird to me. I see Diana as Clark and Bruce's sister. Same as Bruce and Clark as Brothers.
I have a fanficcy Elseworlds idea of what if Superman as a baby in the pod escaping Krypton ended up crash landing in Thymascira and the Amazon Queen Hyppolita? takes him in as her Foster Son.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
I just want Superman x Wonder Woman and Batman x Catwoman, is that too hard to ask DC?

I don't like Superman x Lois Lane because sometimes Lois is either boring or a ****.

I don't like Superman x Talia al Ghul because of Damien Wayne (ok mabye not that) but also because Talia is even less trust worthy than Catwoman cosidering Talia is Ra's Daughter. Catwoman at least is independent.




Talia is less trustworthy than Catwoman? Seriously? Catwoman is about as trustworthy as a sniper being told not to fire it at my head.

Also honestly I kinda like Superman x Lois more. I find the Superman/WW relationship really dull.
 

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Natemans said:
Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
I just want Superman x Wonder Woman and Batman x Catwoman, is that too hard to ask DC?

I don't like Superman x Lois Lane because sometimes Lois is either boring or a ****.

I don't like Superman x Talia al Ghul because of Damien Wayne (ok mabye not that) but also because Talia is even less trust worthy than Catwoman cosidering Talia is Ra's Daughter. Catwoman at least is independent.




Talia is less trustworthy than Catwoman? Seriously? Catwoman is about as trustworthy as a sniper being told not to fire it at my head.

Also honestly I kinda like Superman x Lois more. I find the Superman/WW relationship really dull.
1. At least Catwoman won't kill you, at worst she steals yout stuff, Talia would go as far as sacrificing your soul to some Demon or something.

2. Supes x Lois is Interesting how?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Natemans said:
Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
I just want Superman x Wonder Woman and Batman x Catwoman, is that too hard to ask DC?

I don't like Superman x Lois Lane because sometimes Lois is either boring or a ****.

I don't like Superman x Talia al Ghul because of Damien Wayne (ok mabye not that) but also because Talia is even less trust worthy than Catwoman cosidering Talia is Ra's Daughter. Catwoman at least is independent.




Talia is less trustworthy than Catwoman? Seriously? Catwoman is about as trustworthy as a sniper being told not to fire it at my head.

Also honestly I kinda like Superman x Lois more. I find the Superman/WW relationship really dull.
1. At least Catwoman won't kill you, at worst she steals yout stuff, Talia would go as far as sacrificing your soul to some Demon or something.

2. Supes x Lois is Interesting how?

1. I'm sorry, but Catwoman would still try to attack or kill him at times just like Talia does.

2. With Superman, Lois feels more interesting. Actually this quote proves my point.

"There are many reason you could see Lois Lane as nothing less than outstanding. Whilst most other love interests, particularly in comics, are the damsel in distress, and you could classify Lois under that label earlier days, now she is seen more as independent and strong. But even in saying that, since the beginning of her appearances, she has always been fearless- looking for trouble.

One reason Clark has come to see Lois under such a fascinating light, is her fearless attitude. For example, in Superman Unbound she didn't hesitate to give Brainiac a piece of her mind. Not to mention how many times she's talked down to Lex Luthor.

Lois, especially in the recent years, isn't the typical comic book woman. The house wife, the cook, the stay-at-home mother. She's never displayed those qualities. Her biggest setback with any man is her refused to settle down. Of course, she has made the exception with Clark. He was the first man she could ever really commit to (except Bruce Wayne in Superman/ Batman: World's Finest before she found that he was Batman), even warning him that she was obviously wearing the pants in the relationship.

She likes to take charge, find trouble, make a difference. She believes that nothing less than the truth should be promoted, along with Justice and a non-corrupt society. One reason she fell in love with Superman was that he stood for truth just as she did - of course he fell in love with her for the same reason.

Lastly, her wit. Shown from the start, Lois has always been the one to lighten the mood in any situation, appropriate timing or not. Somehow, she always managed to find some one-liner or quip in every circumstance. Why wouldn't Clark fall for someone who would always be able to find humor everywhere? These qualities were shown most clearly in Lois and Clark: the Adventures of Superman, the Smallville series and Smallville Season 11 series. Also with the following comics from any series."


Honestly WW's chemistry with Superman is really dull and uninteresting in the way its written.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
Winnosh said:
undeadsuitor said:
Asita said:
Eh...can't say I like what they seem to be going for with Nightwing and Harley. I mean Harley's already a character who's defined by her romantic relationship with the Joker and to a lesser extent her relationship with Poison Ivy. Even ignoring the sporadic implications that she might also have at least some attraction to Bruce Wayne and/or Batman, do we really need the apparent ship teasing between her and Nightwing to further complicate her love life?
honestly between this, the god awful reveal in the Batman Beyond comics, the awkward relationship between barbara and bruce in killing joke

and now the fact that they kept the near-pedophilic relationship between deathstroke and terra in Teen Titans Judas Contract

I...just don't trust DC with relationships anymore
You kind of have to keep the Deathstroke Terra relationship going. It's a core part of the story. I haven't watched the new movie yet but was worried they'd mess it up like they did in the old animated series where it was Deathstroke Manipulating Terra, when she's supposed to be just as evil as he is. It's the point of the story that she's an irredeemable monster. Perhaps even moreso than Deathstroke.
You can easily have Terra be evil without...ya know..payday at neverland ranch [http://i.imgur.com/UbUyqNi.png]

Either age Terra up so it's more mutual, or take it out. I'd rather not be on a list somewhere.

I much preferred the Teen Titans version where she was just incapable of trusting anyone, with Slade acting more as a mentor than a love interest
You can and that's a perfectly good story to tell. It's also however a fundimentally different one. But yes aging her up a bit does fix some problems I can see. To me however her being under aged is important. Changing it, making her an adult changes the story they are telling.
 

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While I like that they're using the old DCAU art style, the comment Bruce Timm makes about this "not being kid friendly" is annoying me. You're taking a well established art style from an all ages cartoon, and then excluding kids from watching it by bumping up all the innuendo and grab ass. That just strikes me as wrong. It's clear they're targeting people who grew up with the DCAU, but the DCAU was great because you could watch it as a kid or an adult and both would be satisfied by it.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
You can easily have Terra be evil without...ya know..payday at neverland ranch [http://i.imgur.com/UbUyqNi.png]

Either age Terra up so it's more mutual, or take it out. I'd rather not be on a list somewhere.

I much preferred the Teen Titans version where she was just incapable of trusting anyone, with Slade acting more as a mentor than a love interest
...Ok what the actual hell? I get making villains...well, villainous, but come on now. That's "Joker flayed his own face for the lulz" levels of unnecessary right there. Joker's already a psychotic mass murderer and abuser, and Deathstroke is pretty much DC's poster child for amoral mercenaries. We know that they're villains. We don't need to be convinced of it. What's next? Clayface literally eats kittens? Seriously, did DC put shock jocks on the writing team or something?
 

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Asita said:
undeadsuitor said:
You can easily have Terra be evil without...ya know..payday at neverland ranch [http://i.imgur.com/UbUyqNi.png]

Either age Terra up so it's more mutual, or take it out. I'd rather not be on a list somewhere.

I much preferred the Teen Titans version where she was just incapable of trusting anyone, with Slade acting more as a mentor than a love interest
...Ok what the actual hell? I get making villains...well, villainous, but come on now. That's "Joker flayed his own face for the lulz" levels of unnecessary right there. Joker's already a psychotic mass murderer and abuser, and Deathstroke is pretty much DC's poster child for amoral mercenaries. We know that they're villains. We don't need to be convinced of it. What's next? Clayface literally eats kittens? Seriously, did DC put shock jocks on the writing team or something?
Well, the story was published in the 80's, so it's nothing TT fans haven't already repressed.
 

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SirSullymore said:
Asita said:
undeadsuitor said:
You can easily have Terra be evil without...ya know..payday at neverland ranch [http://i.imgur.com/UbUyqNi.png]

Either age Terra up so it's more mutual, or take it out. I'd rather not be on a list somewhere.

I much preferred the Teen Titans version where she was just incapable of trusting anyone, with Slade acting more as a mentor than a love interest
...Ok what the actual hell? I get making villains...well, villainous, but come on now. That's "Joker flayed his own face for the lulz" levels of unnecessary right there. Joker's already a psychotic mass murderer and abuser, and Deathstroke is pretty much DC's poster child for amoral mercenaries. We know that they're villains. We don't need to be convinced of it. What's next? Clayface literally eats kittens? Seriously, did DC put shock jocks on the writing team or something?
Well, the story was published in the 80's, so it's nothing TT fans haven't already repressed.
And strangely it does bother me as much as the idea of Superman and Wonder Woman having sex in the air covered in Superman's Cape.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
SirSullymore said:
Asita said:
undeadsuitor said:
You can easily have Terra be evil without...ya know..payday at neverland ranch [http://i.imgur.com/UbUyqNi.png]

Either age Terra up so it's more mutual, or take it out. I'd rather not be on a list somewhere.

I much preferred the Teen Titans version where she was just incapable of trusting anyone, with Slade acting more as a mentor than a love interest
...Ok what the actual hell? I get making villains...well, villainous, but come on now. That's "Joker flayed his own face for the lulz" levels of unnecessary right there. Joker's already a psychotic mass murderer and abuser, and Deathstroke is pretty much DC's poster child for amoral mercenaries. We know that they're villains. We don't need to be convinced of it. What's next? Clayface literally eats kittens? Seriously, did DC put shock jocks on the writing team or something?
Well, the story was published in the 80's, so it's nothing TT fans haven't already repressed.
And strangely it does bother me as much as the idea of Superman and Wonder Woman having sex in the air covered in Superman's Cape.
I forget it for some reason since its an issue. And I love Judas Contract. Yeah, I'm conflicted.