Battlefield 3 will not support XP or DX9.

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Claptrap

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People should move on from XP.

It's old, And windows 7, Is honestly better.

They don't make games for DOS anymore, So why should they keep makeing games for XP?

If everyone still used XP then games wouldn't move forward.

People who don't have it should start saveing up, Because sooner or later games will only be released on vista/7.

If you're worried about not being to play games, You can play allmost all of them, If not, Virtual computers aren't that hard.

Times are a changeing.
 

Kouen

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aye, i got an old laptop from a friend for non vista/7 compatible games, so bring on the change!
 

lapan

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I'm not really interested in Battlefield, and i will probably wait with the Upgrade to Win7 until i buy my next machine. I was never that much of a graphics lover, and DX9 still looks great to me.
 

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The statistics in the UK are skewed; I know because we have to pay attention to such statistics in the business I'm in.

The people still stuck on XP are mostly people with work machines, either in or out of offices where they are stuck because their ICT departments have not yet made the switch.

Most (Most not all before you get all rararar at me) gamers and home users have made the switch, so this isn't a big deal.

So, if you do consider yourself a gamer and you're still stuck using XP... maybe it's time to move on.
 

oplinger

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AxCx said:
The Lost Big Boss said:
It is time to upgrade, XP is seven years old. It is the equivalent to running 95 when XP is out.
Why is it time to upgrade? I just cant see what makes W7 soooo much better than XP that everyone has just got to pull a magnet over there hard drive, so to speak, and throw 7 on it. XP works fine for me, and windows 7 doesnt have any features that make XP seem outdated. So why do I need to buy W7 for roughly 150 euros? Because microsoft wants more money I guess.

But just saying "u need to upgrades bcuz 7 iz newer lolz" doesnt cut it. Half the people in this thread are just bending over, spreading there ass cheeks and screaming "Fuck me microsoft! Fuck me till I bleed!"
I just want to point out, windows 7 is VASTLY superior to XP, in almost every way. Not just DX11.

http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/windows-compared-windows-7-vs-vista-vs-xp-615167

TL;DR: Windows 7 boots up faster than XP or Vista. Opens files faster, transfers files faster (even over networks) it's the most secure, runs games better, makes them -look- better, and has better options for laptops. Not to mention the OS is more reliable.

It's not just because it's new, it's because it's better. Workflow is much more streamlined on 7, and really thats what you're looking for.
 

The Lost Big Boss

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AxCx said:
The Lost Big Boss said:
It is time to upgrade, XP is seven years old. It is the equivalent to running 95 when XP is out.
Why is it time to upgrade? I just cant see what makes W7 soooo much better than XP that everyone has just got to pull a magnet over there hard drive, so to speak, and throw 7 on it. XP works fine for me, and windows 7 doesnt have any features that make XP seem outdated. So why do I need to buy W7 for roughly 150 euros? Because microsoft wants more money I guess.

But just saying "u need to upgrades bcuz 7 iz newer lolz" doesnt cut it. Half the people in this thread are just bending over, spreading there ass cheeks and screaming "Fuck me microsoft! Fuck me till I bleed!"
So by your logic, if something works fine there is no need to improve on it? Windows 7 is a much better OS than XP, can't say much for vista because I skipped it. Installing an OS is not hard, just get the right drivers and back up important files. Format, install, download, re-install done.

It is old, and old things don't last forever, especially in the computer world. One day soon support for XP will end, and games will be the first thing to go.
 

Vrach

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Seems silly, but 7 is a reasonable upgrade over XP so can't really complain much.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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nightfish said:
Korten12 said:
oplinger said:
I think it's a good call. DX9 is getting dated. DX10 even runs smoother now. It isn't the first time a company has ditched the old to utilize the new.
yeah same, ppl really need to move on and go to 7.
erm why?
Because DX 10 usage is common enough to be the standard? Because there have been games produced four years ago using DX 10? Because the feature set of DX 10 is, in fact, superior to those found in DX 9? Because XP has a number of glaring flaws and limitations that where originally theoretical but are now very relevant?

I mean, these aren't reasons a person should upgrade their computer. These are reasons why developers might choose to use the new DX standard. If there isn't a game you want to play that uses the new standard, there is certainly no reason to upgrade.

Now, if you DO want to play games that use the new feature set, then you'll need to upgrade. It's the death march of progress and you can either keep up or stop playing. I don't like having to spend a few hundred bucks on video cards every so often. I certainly don't like dropping hundreds more every 3 - 5 years to get a new motherboard, a larger drive (if necessary), a new processor, new memory and (possibly) a new OS. But I'm willing to do it because I enjoy playing PC games and I have to live with the same choice you do.
 

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its going to happen, just like when companies started to abandon stuff for just handling xp, shows how bad vista is that another operating system had to come out before xp started to die.
Vista wasn't at all bad, especially when compared to the fiasco that was XP when it launched. There were problems, certainly but having watched the transition as an IT support professional, the problems with Vista were generally relegated to a short list:

1) Vista looked different than XP. There is nothing an end user hates more than having to learn how to do something again.
2) Initially, there was somewhat lackluster developer support in key areas. It took 6 months to get a driver set that allowed SLI to work with my set of video cards.
3) Most people purchase the cheapest computer they find in a store, or at least the cheapest one that "looks" fancy. This meant many early adopters purchased systems that were only marginally more powerful than their XP systems and the performance advantage was destroyed by the higher operating requirements of Vista.
4) People really like to participate in a conversation even if they don't actually know anything useful. After hearing stories about the problems of the Vista launch, the public perception became "Vista is awful" and avoided it like the plague. This eventually became the story of the OS.

Of those problems, only the first is actually the fault of the OS. The fault for the rest goes to various third party companies. Yes, there were other problems along the way, but compared to past OS launches, Vista was exceptionally stable out of the gate.

To me, the Win7 launched always seemed to be an effort to change the story of Vista. Functionally, fundamentally, most of the bits of 7 are right out of Vista. It has virtually the same look and feel as it's predecessor. It has very nearly identical operating requirements. What it does not have is that absolutely cursed name that Vista is dragging around wherever it goes. It seemed more like a relaunch of Vista than a new OS. Sure, they still expected money in return for the upgrade, but truth be told this really didn't affect as many people as you might expect. As of a month ago (the last time I needed to check) you could still purchase a new system from Dell with XP installed. And that is precisely what most people I ever encountered chose to do.
 

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psrdirector said:
Eclectic Dreck said:
I was actually more refering to financially and in market penetration, no matter how stable a OS is, if the one its supposed to replace survives long enough for the next version, you did something wrong.
And I was simply pointing out the reason why this occurred as far as I've been able to discern. Microsoft can't FORCE a developer to support any particular platform. And the only thing that would get people to budge given what I pointed out was software. This was why several major PC releases required Vista. Not because it needed any of the new features but rather because Microsoft wanted to encourage a higher install base of their new OS.

The failure in this case was less a technical problem than a PR problem. It also seems to be the eternal problem of being Microsoft.
 

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Being an XP user, I am moderatly upset. I wasn't getting this game anyways but I know may other comapnies will now follow suit. Then again, my PC isnt' amazing so newer games aren't likely to run smoothly anyways.

All I've had when I have used 7 was problems. I copied music from my laptop to a USB drive (to put on another computer) and 7 would not find it (the music format being .mp3 mostly), among many other issues.
I am amused that the new features the commercials for 7 talk about were standard features in Linux before 7 came around (the whole "move to the side and snap" thing, for example). I wonder how long it will be before they claim Linux's wobbly windows feature as their own new and unique idea. I'm still waiting for them to add multiple-desktops as a standard feature as well.
 

DarkBlood626

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well i atleast hope this means it wont suffer the fate of being dumbed down for the casual gamer with there gaystation and shitBOX that has befallen so many before it

Caution rant below

waaa it dosent suport 2000 waaa it dosent suport windows 98 and so on its a push away form stagnation which the consoles have brought us which at best means a 3 or 4 year time lag between syistems that still use DX9 while they charge you for DLC and the ability to play online