Battlefield 3 Will Require Origin
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It's an issue my brother had with Dragon Age: Origins. Bought the Digital Deluxe Edition on Steam and it wouldn't work. Steam support just said it's not their problem. Had nothing to do with a ToS violation, it's just the game wouldn't work, and Steam wouldn't take responsibility.qwerty19411 said:
Well that would be alright. As long as I don't have to purchase from Origin. I like to have a solid copy of games.migo said:
Edit: I like steam due to Steam Achievements. I'm not some achievement freak that has to finish every single one, but I like it when they add achievements that increase replayability.
While achievements are nice, it's more important that Origin have the basic functionality of playing and launching games working before they throw anything else in. I'd certainly appreciate getting "It's A Me, Mario!" in Mirror's Edge, but I'd rather that come in after it leaves beta.
As for hard copy games, I fully agree if bought full price, but it's hard to get a hard copy game at $5 like you can with Origin sales (or Steam sales, or Impulse sales, etc), so if the game is only available through Origin, and I get it at an insane discount, I won't complain much. If a game is at Good Old Games and available elsewhere, I'll always buy through GoG though.
As for hard copy games, I fully agree if bought full price, but it's hard to get a hard copy game at $5 like you can with Origin sales (or Steam sales, or Impulse sales, etc), so if the game is only available through Origin, and I get it at an insane discount, I won't complain much. If a game is at Good Old Games and available elsewhere, I'll always buy through GoG though.
May I quote qwerty19411 for this one, who quoted the origin EULAmigo said:
Steam doesn't need that, it has a nice little feature called offline mode, I guess you know what that feature mean.
I'm not saying steam is perfect, but it never let me hanging (not like EA"=origin", hence the trust issues), and provided me with cheap games, a lot of older games that I can't find anywhere else and a lot of indi-games that I wouldn't have bought in a life-time if steam hadn't them featured. Beside that, as far as I know, they give the developer a bigger part of the cake(of the price) than any other retailer ever could.
I like steam, but I think for the sake of fairness, no developer or publisher should use a online-platform like steam or origin in the first place. That would minimize any monopole-related issues. Especially if it comes to hardcopys, than everyone could decide for themselves which online-platform they want to use. But that would mean, someone would need to regulate the market and this is something nobody is willing to do.
Allow me to rage:
NO ONE WANTS TO USE YOUR BLOODY SERVICE EA. There's a reason Steam has done so well, and that's because Valve treats their customers right. Not guaranteeing a pre-order is idiotic, but charging a 5 dollar service charge just to pre-order it? Ridiculous.
Next, QUIT STUNTING BATTLEFIELD 3. You want to topple Call of Duty as you've stated previously? Then stop pissing off your fans and just make the game as easily availabe as possible. It's idiotic, and I can guarantee that Activision's CEO is reading this article with glee right now because of how childish you're acting regarding your marketing.
Rage quit.
NO ONE WANTS TO USE YOUR BLOODY SERVICE EA. There's a reason Steam has done so well, and that's because Valve treats their customers right. Not guaranteeing a pre-order is idiotic, but charging a 5 dollar service charge just to pre-order it? Ridiculous.
Next, QUIT STUNTING BATTLEFIELD 3. You want to topple Call of Duty as you've stated previously? Then stop pissing off your fans and just make the game as easily availabe as possible. It's idiotic, and I can guarantee that Activision's CEO is reading this article with glee right now because of how childish you're acting regarding your marketing.
Rage quit.
EA rep: See? Told ya PC gaming is dead! Just look at these dismal sales!
In all seriousness, we'll see if they can pull this off without fucking it up.
*edit* nevermind, they charge an EXTRA $5 for the priviledge of pre-order? LOL! Steam usually discounts $5. Sad...
In all seriousness, we'll see if they can pull this off without fucking it up.
*edit* nevermind, they charge an EXTRA $5 for the priviledge of pre-order? LOL! Steam usually discounts $5. Sad...
Origin has that too. I don't blame people who don't have any games for reading the EULA and drawing conclusions based on it, but it really would make more sense to listen to people who have first hand experience. If you're not connected, Origin boots up, tells you it's in offline mode and that online features aren't available, and causes no troubles in launching the game.deckai said:
Steam has left plenty of people hanging, and screwed over plenty more overseas, charging the same rate for Euros as the currently devalued US dollar, refusing to provide support for games that just plain don't work. GamersGate provides far better sales (and more consistent sales, there's ALWAYS something on sale on GG) with no DRM unless the developer insists on it, doesn't require any client to be running in the background, and rewards users with credit towards game content for purchasing and just being active and writing reviews.
It's Good Old Games > GamersGate > Impulse, after that Steam is OK for Valve games and activating games you get in the Humble Indie Bundle, and Origin is OK for EA games (no idea if they'll screw up non-EA games like Steam does non-Valve games).
That's why Origin is a good thing. Dragon Age II, Mass Effect 3, Battlefield BC 3 - they're big titles. By pulling out of Steam they're making Steam less dominant. If Origin starts delivering non-EA games it gets even better, because then Steam has even more competition.
Either way, anyone complaining about Origin but supporting Steam is way too fanboyish for my liking. At least support an actually good platform like Good Old Games or GamersGate.
Not really, I've bought like two games off of Steam and I am aware that there are other options out there, I just find Steam incredibly convenient and, since a lot of my friends use it as well, more suitable for multiplayer games.migo said:
I just find it annoying how EA is forcing this on people, and how incredibly bad it looks for marketing as the rest of my post explained.
Dammit EA you say you want this game to do well but at every oppourtunity you are shooting yourselves in the foot with a tank! Do you just hate us because if you came out and said that I think Battlefield would sell better than if your going to insist on this origin bullshit.
Please dont tell me this is EA's idea of retaliating against Steam. If anything they're effecting customers.
Why bother with death threats.... EA doesn't care even if you did off the odd employee, and you wouldn't like what the FBI (or equivalent wherever you live) would do to you.Pohaturon said:
Nope... just don't buy it. Vote with wallet. I know I'm not going to. I'll just get my realism from ARMA/ARMA II a bit longer and wait for Planetside 2 to come out.
And as totally opposed to piracy as I am.... I can't wait to watch them crash and burn as half the planet pirates their game in a fit of pique! Popcorn, daquiri, giggles and pirate-watching. Perfect way to spend a day!
PUBLISHERS, games publishers, not developers. EA used to be a developer way back in the mists of time (I believe), but it gave up on doing any of the hard work and now just leaches off real, more creative devs.F said:
migo said:
Yeah, about the prices, retailer do that too, and this is not only a issue with videogames, almost everything that gets imported from overseas gets its prices adjusted this way. I don't understand why people complain that their games don't work on steam.. most of the time it's the publishers/developers fault, since they are responsible for the game and programing a workable version for steam. If my car stops to work, do I ask the car-dealer why it has stopped or the manufacturer?
Again, steam isn't perfect and non of the above either.(i.e. Gamersgate charges more for their indi-games, at least for the one I looked up/bought, gog doesn't even has any indi-games) Beside that, steam has not only special holiday sales, weekend sales and midweek sales, it also has daily offers.
Yeah, but that is the point, it's not really that I dislike origin, the issue is EA...I don't trust them, I don't like them, EA(not origin) if they want to change that fact they need to change their policy. And I'm sure I'm not the only one, who thinks that way.
No, the issue still stands, if you think your thought further.. soon every major developer will have their own download platform, and every game will be exclusive for their own platform (Steam isn't the only one that suffers from this, Dragon Age II for example isn't available on Gamersgate and impulse has it region-locked, which is another issue...).
No developer should have their own platform, they could sell their own games online, but I should be able to activate it on any-platform I want.
But what about people that support origin but complain about steam? Everyone has their reasons, my is, I trust steam and especially Valve in this case, all my games I brought from them work 100%, not like a few EA games I own.