Battlefield 4 event being held March 26th. Who really cares now?

[DTH1337]

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/ea-holding-battlefield-4-event-march-26-6405410

So, as stated in the link above, EA have announced that they will be holding a Battlefield 4 event at the Games Developer Conference on March 26th. As we all know, this game has been getting a lot of hype (even though we haven't seen any gameplay footage. You know, just like Destiny, but that's another story) ever since it was announced that anyone who bought Medal Of Honor: Warfighter would gain access to the game's beta, but I'm here to ask a question to you all. Does anyone even care?

Now, I know that DICE is a pretty well-respected studio and all, and they have made some great games in the past (the obvious Battlefield series and my personal favourite Mirror's Edge), but with all the controversy that has been surrounding EA this past year (Mass Effect 3 ending, Medal Of Honor: Warfighter sucking, being voted Worst Company of 2012) as well as this year so far (Dead Space 3 being yet another game destroying survival horror and sucking, SimCity launch disaster), does anyone even care about this and is anyone willing to support this?

Personally, I would like Battlefield 4 to be a great game, but with everything that EA has done and that this is pretty likely to be another spunkgargleweewee game, I can't really get very enthusiastic about this game or any other future EA titles.

What do you guys think though? Leave your comments as usual.

 

[tippy2k2]

Can we stop using spunkgargleweewee please?

I second this motion.

All who agree say "I"

OT: Well according to Bf3stats.com, over 11.1 MILLION players played Battlefield 3 so I assume that at least some of those guys will care. I played BF3 a bit and I think I could get into it but all my buddies play CoD so it's not likely that I would migrate unless I can get them to as well.

Either way, I am interested because I do enjoy the single-player of these games (Come on over and get a picture! Someone who plays Modern Military Games for the single-player over here! A rare specimen indeed!)

 

[Windcaler]

Im sorry what is the exact definition for spunkgarggleweewee? I understand Yahtzee coined the phrase but I never understood his definition. Is it just Modern military shooter? because Modern Military shooter gets more to the point for what it really is.

That said, Im somewhat interseted in what Battlefield 4 will have in it. I still play battlefield 3 now and then but Ive been playing blacklight more because I like the HRV in it. Im not really chomping at the bit for BF4 like I was from BF3 because of Bad company 2 which is still my favorite MMS made but I still want to see how theyre going to take the game forward. Who knows the next game might be a masterpiece

 

[ShinyCharizard]

I'm still interested in BF4. Though to be honest I would prefer if it was Bad Company 3 instead seeing as I think Bad Company 2 is the greatest MMS ever made.

 

[xDarc]

Played BF3 demo "beta" for about 3-4 hours and decided it was complete shit, uninstalled origin crap, never looked back. Will pass on BF4 most likely as well because they have only been getting worse. I used to be a heavy BF2142 player in like 07; probably because sniping did not seem too effective in that game and you could still run and gun somewhat.

The slowness of the current BF games combined with the near-instant TTKs just makes it either a sit still game or a random game of chance. Complete turn off for an old skool arena shooter.

I bought black ops 2 and I have played zombies for 133 hours. Haven't played one round of multiplayer because to me, it's mechanically similar to BF3. The games have their differences, but the shooty end of the business handles similarly. RO2 dev who compared modern shooters to sitting at a slot machine and pulling a lever to see if you get a kill or not was spot on.

Wake me when twitchy, run and gun arena shooters are back.

 

[TheSapphireKnight]

I'm interested to see where they go. I am disappointed at the return to a modern setting. 2142 and even the bad Company games felt like a break from a 'proper' modern setting.

I am just bummed it will likely it will US vs Russia again, but if they do that hopefully they at least focus on different branches. Rather than Vipers, Venoms, and LAVs for the US we might see army equipment like the Apache, Blackhawk, and Stryker. For the Russians instead of Suhkois, Havoks, and BMPs, they might have Migs, Hinds, and BTRs.

I would have like them to take a step towards the future with early EU and PAC from 2142 in modern times to allow for a mix of vehicles and weaponry from Europe and Asia that we don't usually see in the usual US v Russia/Russian armed forces.

As far as the game itself Aftermath and Endgame have shown me that DICE can still design quality map which really worried me after BC2's dreadful maps(In fact I hated most of BC2) and BF3's launch maps.

 

[SSJBlastoise]

Can we stop using spunkgargleweewee please?

I second this motion.

All who agree say "I"

OT: Well according to Bf3stats.com, over 11.1 MILLION players played Battlefield 3 so I assume that at least some of those guys will care. I played BF3 a bit and I think I could get into it but all my buddies play CoD so it's not likely that I would migrate unless I can get them to as well.

Either way, I am interested because I do enjoy the single-player of these games (Come on over and get a picture! Someone who plays Modern Military Games for the single-player over here! A rare specimen indeed!)

I third it as well!

Don't worry, I play most games for their single player modes, the only multiplayer stuff I have is TF2 and all of the Counter Strikes. All of my other games I get because I want to play the single player modes, yes, even Battlefield and COD.

OT: It should probably be pointed out that just because you aren't interested in a game doesn't mean others wont be (that's the feeling I get from the OP but if it's not I am sorry). I am pretty excited to see what they are doing with it and might play the beta again because the BF3 beta was pretty fun.

 

[Hawkeye 131]

I'm interested, considering I really enjoyed Battlefield 3. That being said I'm a little concerned because although I enjoyed BF3, it was the first Battlefield game I've played and I've been told on many occasions by many different people that the previous entries in the Battlefield series were (generally speaking), of higher quality.

In my opinion BF3's single-player campaign was mediocre at best. It suffered from numerious tropes and cliches that many of this generations modern military FPS games ail from including the America vs. Russia plot, ultra linear campaign and quick-time events for example. The multi-player is really where the "meat" of BF3 is and where it truly shines. Now, over a year after release the game is very well balanced and enjoyable with only a few minor glitches and bugs that rarely if ever rear their head. With a wide variety of maps, weapons, vehicles and game modes it's a blast to play, especially on PC.

As for Battlefield 4, sure I'm interested. That being said it certainly won't be a Day-1 buy for me considering it took DICE awhile to really polish and iron out all the glitches, bugs and problems with BF3. I'm concerned with what's going on with EA as the OP mentioned. They have had a rough go of it over the last year, everything from Mass Effect 3's ending to the Worst Company of 2012 award to IGN's "Why people hate EA" article to the MoH: Doorfighter fail to Dead Space 3's "abandoning survivor horror" and "failing to meet projected sales expectations" to micro-transactions in EVERY EA game to the whole SimCity launch disaster and everything in between. As much as I enjoy criticizing ALL of EA's sloppy anti-consumer business practices I have to admit I do enjoy and support some of their games (basically just ME3, BF3 and more recently Crysis 3).

I'm wondering why DICE hasn't hinted or teased any thing about Mirror's Edge 2 or Bad Company 3? Why are they so quick to develop Battlefield 4 when they have a few other established IP's laying about? Does DICE REALLY what to keep churning out Battlefield games and turn into a "Battlefield factory" as EA itself once cautioned against? I'm just worried that BF4 will be a rinse and repeat of BF3. New guns and maps but basically just the same thing with a fresh coat of paint. For some people that's perfectly acceptable but sitting here reminiscing about some not so positive things that EA has done in the past in it's seemingly never ending pursuit of complete market share and how it appears to so desperately want to be like Activision and Call of Duty with annualized multi-million dollar releases, yeah I care because for the most part I enjoyed what DICE did with BF3 and I don't want to see it ruined for the sole purpose of making more money, achieving a higher market share and establishing a better return for investors however, that's what all signs are seemingly pointing towards...

As I said I'm... I guess I'm what you could call "cautiously interested" in Battlefield 4.

-Hawk

 

[King Aragorn]

Yes, people are still interested. People vowed to never buy a EA game after the entire Mass Effect 3 ending fiasco, even after the fix, yet Dead Space 3 is pulling strong numbers, so is Crysis 3 I believe. SimCity will probably follow along, so BF4, of all things, is no exception.

 

[Frostbite3789]

Im sorry what is the exact definition for spunkgarggleweewee?

It's a much shorter way of saying "I'm really pretentious, or at least act like it. But not pretentious enough to be original, so I take the sayings of well known web personalities." Or at least that's what I glean from it.

I've been playing Battlefield since 1942...so I care.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Well the demanding parties might not care but CoD still sells more and more every year, so riding that wave is a guaranteed paycheck.

 

[jebara]

Can we stop using spunkgargleweewee please?

I second this motion.

All who agree say "I"

I third it as well!

I fourth it.
As for BF4, 3 was so bad I gave up on the series, if it wants the COD audience so bad it can have it, just don't expect me to follow.
And I used to like some of the CODs, but man, if you keep trying to copy the other game so bad then you only become the poor mans version, you should have been yourself.

 

[DTH1337]

Well, there are definitely some interesting opinions so far. So far the general feeling I'm getting is that some are still looking forward to it despite the lack of gameplay footage, and others aren't looking forward to it mostly because they are either sick of MMS games (who isn't?) or didn't really like the last game. Keep the opinions coming guys.

Oh, and in response to the spunkgargleweewee motion, I have simply one thing to say to that.

NEVER! LOL!

 

[AVeryClassyCat]

In terms of multiplayer, Battlefield has way more going for it than COD from what I've seen. BF3 locks my xbox, though, and I'm not interested in EA titles when I have other options in good multiplayer FPS. While I'm excited for Battlefield in the hypothetical, since the team who makes it seems to have more imagination than Treyarch or Infinity Ward with regard to the online play, I don't support EA in any way and will not be buying it.

Also fifthing the notion that people should drop the constant regurgitation of memes from web personalities.

 

[Stavros Dimou]

I'm not afraid of BF4. I think that whatever 'bad' was to happen to the BF series have already be done.

They killed the modding aspect of the games and now they make a new every 2 years. Modding allowed not only more maps, but also configurations of weapon statistics and gameplay to make it more of a military simulator that a 'gamey' game. By not supporting modding for BF3,the game lost some of its potential and the ways some people preferred to play it aren't there.

With the more frequent releases of games in the series,the longevity of each game is also dropped down,so it doesn't let a community to grow enough and mature in it.

Don't even get me started with the DLC policy. Do anybody remembers that when BF3 was released there where like 4 DLCs (one for each class) that offered instant XP points,and unlocked all the basic game weapons and accessories for each class ?
That's right,pay money to buy progression so you don't need play time and skill to reach there,and become more powerful in an instant than others who where just starting the game and would get to the point of unlocking the cool guns months later with normal play... Pay to win is there.

And of course the frequent changes in how things work and the stats of the weapons and vehicles just messed up things.
It is now at a point where choosing your favorite weapon is like sabotaging yourself,and about 70% to 80% of the times I die, I'm killed by the same gun,simply because there is a handful of things that actually work and choosing anything else is like having a death wish.

And the realistic aspect of the game suffered a lot because of that too. When I die faster from a few shots of a 9mm pistol,than I do with a full burst of explosive 30mm AA rounds,something is not right. AA rounds are weaker than airgun BBs. 'Nough said.

Seeing how BF3 turned out to be,I have low hopes/interest for BF4. But this has nothing to do with Medal of Honor or Mass Effect,or Sim City etc.

 

[Jedi-Hunter4]

Now, I know that DICE is a pretty well-respected studio and all, and they have made some great games in the past (the obvious Battlefield series and my personal favourite Mirror's Edge), but with all the controversy that has been surrounding EA this past year (Mass Effect 3 ending, Medal Of Honor: Warfighter sucking, being voted Worst Company of 2012) as well as this year so far (Dead Space 3 being yet another game destroying survival horror and sucking, SimCity launch disaster), does anyone even care about this and is anyone willing to support this?

Personally, I would like Battlefield 4 to be a great game, but with everything that EA has done and that this is pretty likely to be another spunkgargleweewee game, I can't really get very enthusiastic about this game or any other future EA titles.

What do you guys think though? Leave your comments as usual.

EA just put the monetary backing behind the game, why should DICE suffer? it's the ol' cutting off the nose to spite the face.

EA literally has so many fingers in so many pot's I don't understand why people take things so personally, I mean do you really think the big wigs at EA wrote the ending of Mass Effect?

Nobody is ever as vocal about the good things that company's do rather than the bad, I'm not a ME fan but to me shouldn't the fans be happy they got 3 full games? allot of franchises are killed long before that.

I mean the list of great games EA publishes is huge, just looking at the sports branch alone (whether you agree with the yearly installments or not) they are consistently solid games that the majority of gaming fans (of which the bubble on forums can cloud) love.

 

[Sassafrass]

Eh, I'll be interested in what they say.
BF3 was my first BF game[footnote]Put your pitchforks down.[/footnote] and it's now my go to FPS now when I feel the need to shoot at other people across the country/world with about 300 hours in it.

I also fifth the removal of spunkgargleweewee as well.

 

[Stavros Dimou]

I won't be touching BF4 with a ten-foot pole, the reasons stated above by various people are part of the cause for that, but the main reason is this:
The community is trash.
This is the biggest problem with BF3, and it will certainly continue with BF4, the majority of players are glitching, statpadding idiots with no intention of playing the game properly.
A quick perusal of the Battlelog forums will tell you everything you need to know about the playerbase, it is not uncommon to find threads titled "anybody with a score below X should quit the game/beg for forgiveness/kill themselves" and the thing is they aren't joking.
It is the worst video game community that has ever existed, and if it were confined to the forums it wouldn't be quite so bad, but in-game behaviour is a reflection of it as well, most players only play Operation Metro (especially on PC) over and over to pad their stats, and it's probably fair to say that the stat page is the main part of the game now, everything else is secondary to it.
Perhaps it's not the fault of EA for forcing DICE to pander to the CoD crowd, as the more CoD-like modes can simply be avoided. I certainly think that the integration of the stats with the forum is the biggest problem, as it leads to statpadding en-masse, which destroys the core gameplay.
The game is no longer about capturing objectives, it is about finding glitched weapons and spawncamping, and this will not change as long as the player stats are viewable by other players, and certainly not while they are integrated into the forum.

For this reason I will be avoiding BF4, and likely every Battlefield game made from this point forward.
My hope is that another developer will take on the concept again and make a proper combined-arms shooter that is not played by the detritus of humanity, but I'm not holding my breath.

Unfortunately I'll have to agree on that,the majority of BF3 players are elitist stat whores.
In most games lately people doesn't co-operate with others,something most obvious on Conquest.
Most players never spot the enemies because they are too sure of themselves that they will kill somebody and too jealous at the same time,as they think that spotting the enemy will make some else to 'steal' their kill.
And often these players die and the team loose points,because they didnt spotted and thus didnt got help.
The moment players started seeing team work as an obstacle to their stats the game lost most of its fun for me.

But what can I say ? Many online FPS communities end up being like that. Same kind of attitude were also present in Quake Live last time I checked and I quit playing that game. In fact in Quake Live things are even worse as often groups of players from a specific nation start nationalist/racist hate harassment and group up and votekick you just because you are living in a different country.

The best online FPS community I happened to find in my life was that of Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. Guys there where friendly and we would say jokes over the in-game chat and plan our team work strategies like we have been known each other years,without ever having met in the game or life before. I miss these moments.. Nostalgia.