Battlefield 4 Singleplayer Campaign Details

[Racecarlock]

Cue the endless bitching about games clearly not aimed at them.

Look, some people just want to shoot stuff. Be happy with the good games you get and try to get other developers to make the games you want. Bitching about this won't help any of you. People will still buy it. Take comfort in the good developers you do have.

The big problem here is Battlefield is not and never was aimed at the kind of gamer who wants a campaign. This is that rare case where the publisher really is tacking on a needless mode in an attempt to get people outside of their target audience to buy it, diverting resources away from the main point of the game in the process. It just happens to be in the reverse from the usual complaints about this sort of practice.

Sure, but again, where will the complaining get you? It's not going to stop the fans from buying it, it's not going to make the developers suddenly change everything, and it's not going to stop the publisher from moving back the release date.

I think it would be better for us all if we just started showing battlefield a large measure of apathy. Because that's what it's been doing to you guys. We all like to think we have influence, but this isn't a big forum. Some indie developers might listen to us, and I know thrikr33n works in the industry, but we're not going to get them to change the single player gameplay. We aren't.

So why care? Couldn't this time be spent looking up information on games you're looking forward to?

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Cue the endless bitching about games clearly not aimed at them.

Look, some people just want to shoot stuff. Be happy with the good games you get and try to get other developers to make the games you want. Bitching about this won't help any of you. People will still buy it. Take comfort in the good developers you do have.

The big problem here is Battlefield is not and never was aimed at the kind of gamer who wants a campaign. This is that rare case where the publisher really is tacking on a needless mode in an attempt to get people outside of their target audience to buy it, diverting resources away from the main point of the game in the process. It just happens to be in the reverse from the usual complaints about this sort of practice.

Sure, but again, where will the complaining get you? It's not going to stop the fans from buying it, it's not going to make the developers suddenly change everything, and it's not going to stop the publisher from moving back the release date.

I think it would be better for us all if we just started showing battlefield a large measure of apathy. Because that's what it's been doing to you guys. We all like to think we have influence, but this isn't a big forum. Some indie developers might listen to us, and I know thrikr33n works in the industry, but we're not going to get them to change the single player gameplay. We aren't.

So why care? Couldn't this time be spent looking up information on games you're looking forward to?

To be fair, the most recent Battlefield game I own is BF2 -- and I don't mean BC2. Combination of my computer being too slow to run BF3, my distaste for EA's business practices, and that apathy you were mentioning. It's just kind of a passing "what a shame" for me at this point.

 

[Darth Sea Bass]

I don't get it who the fuck was asking for a single player campaign in battlefield? I'm not a fan of multiplayer in most games but battlefield was always the one exception to the rule.

 

[HellbirdIV]

Will Battlefield 4 feature a playable dog in its singleplayer?

No?

Will it feature the use of jetpacks?

No?

Will it at least feature a battle against/inside a giant robot, giant enemy crab, or giant enemy crab robot?

No?

Go home, Battlefield. Tart up your Multiplayer some more, because that's the only reason we still like you.

 

[MCerberus]

If only DICE had access to a more interesting story and setting. You can have it in the future, but not so far as you can't recognize everything. If you add in some sort of ongoing natural disaster you can drop the HERO VS BIG BAD COMMUNIST routine and have it just be about survival.

Plus you can add new tech since it's in the future, like APCs with escape pods and mechs.
Hint hint, EA

edit- and you can have a robo-dog squad member for you to care about. just sayin'

 

[Hero in a half shell]

They really put some effort in to making it sound as generic and clichéd as possible, didn't they? And I expect the other squad members will be Shooty McWhitestubble and Stubbles O'Shootywhite.

Don't forget Beardly O'Coolhat, Sergent BritishMostache and Token Latino-Who-Gets-Shot.

Also a nuke will go off in a populated area. And that's like totally original and evokes the true face of war so we should all pause and think about it REALLY HARD before the cutscene ends and we get back to relentlessly cumb-stomping religious brown men with funny accents.

 

[Silverbeard]

They really put some effort in to making it sound as generic and clichéd as possible, didn't they? And I expect the other squad members will be Shooty McWhitestubble and Stubbles O'Shootywhite.

Don't forget Beardly O'Coolhat, Sergent BritishMostache and Token Latino-Who-Gets-Shot.

Why exclude the rest of NATO? Let us not forget MightySideburns Italian, HairyChest Greek and AbsurdAccent Frenchmen. Maybe they will also include a mighty German volunteer soldier. Who speaks perfect English but always says 'nein' rather than 'no'.

 

[MCerberus]

Why exclude the rest of NATO? Let us not forget MightySideburns Italian, HairyChest Greek and AbsurdAccent Frenchmen. Maybe they will also include a mighty German volunteer soldier. Who speaks perfect English but always says 'nein' rather than 'no'.

I have no idea what you're talking about. NATO is nothing but 'muricans with funny flags on their back that have to deal with Brits every once in a while.

 

[HellbirdIV]

If only DICE had access to a more interesting story and setting.

Well they are making the next Star Wars Battlefront. That could be awesome.

 

[octafish]

You know, at least when they have the evil enemy soldiers belonging to "Puppy Stompers Private Military Corporation" they aren't alienating an entire country full of people that may or may not want to play the game. At least when they have North Korea as the antagonists they aren't offending anyone cause they won't know the games exists anyway.

And when did China start becoming the knew punching bag for modern "realistic" shooters? I can (sorta) understand the Russian bit cause of the whole Cold War bullshit. But why China?

That would be mid July 2005 whe the modern military shooter was invented (for better or worse) by Battlefield 2. Two years before COD4.

Again, the one reason to play the single player in BF3 was negated by making the flight level on rails. We don't need single player, just bots. I've pre-ordered, for my sins, but I won't be touching the single player and I resent that anyone spent any effort on it. At least they didn't spend any money on writers.

If only DICE had access to a more interesting story and setting.

Well they are making the next Star Wars Battlefront. That could be awesome.

Or you know Battlefield 2143 with a return of Titan Mode which is what Cerberus was talking about.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Remember when battlefield was about being a footslogger with a shit weapon trying to climb up that goddamn Omaha beach map while the German players camped in their pillboxes?

I remember when Battlefield was about having to walk for five minutes to get to the centre of El Alamein because all the good vehicles were ninja'd in the first second of the game.

 

[fix-the-spade]

I remember when Battlefield was about having to walk for five minutes to get to the centre of El Alamein because all the good vehicles were ninja'd in the first second of the game.

The was always the mine jeep, just try not to get Stuka'd out in the open.

I miss vietnam and taking out entire groups of tanks with a single burst of chopper rockets, that was great. I miss doppler audio and I Really the exhaustive list of all the players you've stabbed.

That's my number one pet hate in BF3, for a decade me and my mates kept a little league going of who stabbed who and how many times. In BF3 you can't do that anymore, it just says how time you got a specific tag and who it was last from. Seriously, who the fuck cares about the tag? It's the players you were up against that should be recorded. For such a small detail it neatly illustrates how in many respects BF3 went backwards from it's predecessors.

I want choppers that can loop and jets that can stall too, because balls to hover noobs.

 

[flarty]

I meant that capitalist America is already being indoctrinated all over the place by communists, though I could never see as good guys or be willing to play as communists. I couldn't even play CoD: World At War's Russian campaign (before I realized I shouldn't be playing CoD in the first place) because based on people killed by ideology, the Nazis were pikers compared to the Soviets...even if their politics were actually closer than they were different.

Because the Soviet represents every communist ever existed?
The Soviet and communism have nothing in commune. Saying that the Soviet represents communism is like saying Hitler represents democracy as a whole because he got elected.

I think the point was more that Communism applied in government has been a human rights failure across the board. Starting with the Soviets, and continuing with China, Cuba, etc. Show me a system that works that isn't a paper theory and maybe you can say communism is good. But as far as we've seen, its killed more people and ruined more societies than capitalism ever has.

You need to read up on cuba, though communism by ideology is aone party one class system, there's less humn rights abuse since they over threw the US backed dictator Bastista. It has the best universal health care system south of canada. It has a literacy rate somewhere above 90%, and the citizens get $50 dollars of groceries subsidized to $1.20 a week. Now if communism was ever working, it seems to be working in in Cuba despite the past 50 odd years of sanctions the US has placed on the tiny threatening island.

Edit: also, look at what happened to south america in the 70's through to the late 90's when it was used a test ground for Friedman economics. Pretty horrific, the argentine junta was even holding leftist pregnant women prisoner, letting them deliver the child then executing the mother.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

I meant that capitalist America is already being indoctrinated all over the place by communists, though I could never see as good guys or be willing to play as communists. I couldn't even play CoD: World At War's Russian campaign (before I realized I shouldn't be playing CoD in the first place) because based on people killed by ideology, the Nazis were pikers compared to the Soviets...even if their politics were actually closer than they were different.

Because the Soviet represents every communist ever existed?
The Soviet and communism have nothing in commune. Saying that the Soviet represents communism is like saying Hitler represents democracy as a whole because he got elected.

I think the point was more that Communism applied in government has been a human rights failure across the board. Starting with the Soviets, and continuing with China, Cuba, etc. Show me a system that works that isn't a paper theory and maybe you can say communism is good. But as far as we've seen, its killed more people and ruined more societies than capitalism ever has.

You need to read up on cuba, though communism by ideology is aone party one class system, there's less humn rights abuse since they over threw the US backed dictator Bastista. It has the best universal health care system south of canada. It has a literacy rate somewhere above 90%, and the citizens get $50 dollars of groceries subsidized to $1.20 a week. Now if communism was ever working, it seems to be working in in Cuba despite the past 50 odd years of sanctions the US has placed on the tiny threatening island.

Edit: also, look at what happened to south america in the 70's through to the late 90's when it was used a test ground for Friedman economics. Pretty horrific, the argentine junta was even holding leftist pregnant women prisoner, letting them deliver the child then executing the mother.

Funny how if Cuba is so great, why there are flotillas of immigrants coming to the US because it sucks balls to live there. I don't say this lightly, I grew up in the FL Keys and have met quite a few people who came over from there (90 miles south of my parents house is Cuba). None of them want to go back (again the people I've met) and I haven't heard any praise about how great the system is. Nevermind the oppression they face if they even speak a minutely bad word about the government. The cost of communism seems to be by and large your own personal opinion and basic civil right to speak your mind. Forums like these wouldn't exist under communist rule, too much free-thinking and opinions.

 

[Karathos]

Would like to point out that "Combat Lifesaver" is not in this case an attempt at a cool nickname if people here are thinking that. It's one of the names given to actual combat first-aid training that's given to servicemen in the US armed forces and elsewhere. Over here in the Finnish Defence Forces we used to call that guy in the squad the CLS-guy. Pretty sure one of those guys in the gameplay demo video way back even had the CLS-pack on his back (Little waistpack-looking bag with scissors on the side)

More closely on-topic though: Yeah, did they have some kind of cliché checklist? I'm usually not one to take jabs at big-brand military shooters for having cliché storylines and themes, but just... there's a limit, fellas. As Coreless stated on page one, this shit ought to make any actual soldier cringe.

 

[thehorror2]

No women, and maybe one black dude, if they're feeling adventurous. Meh. (And yes, I know the idea of a woman being on an elite military squad is ridiculous and implausible, but the BF franchise and all current military shooters aren't interested in being realistic anyway.)

Ye gods, I hate modern game development.

 

[Lil_Rimmy]

If only DICE had access to a more interesting story and setting. You can have it in the future, but not so far as you can't recognize everything. If you add in some sort of ongoing natural disaster you can drop the HERO VS BIG BAD COMMUNIST routine and have it just be about survival.

Plus you can add new tech since it's in the future, like APCs with escape pods and mechs.
Hint hint, EA

edit- and you can have a robo-dog squad member for you to care about. just sayin'

Wait...

Did you just describe Battlefield 2142?

...

Sneaky.

(Seriously though, I remember you needing DLC to play multiplayer on that. Or something. I know because I got BF2142 twice, and I couldn't play multiplayer either time. Which is sad, because the Titan mode in that game was fucking amazing. It's like the beach all over again... Except the beach is a giant flying missile launching gunship launching Avengers Carrier.)

 

[marurder]

I want a game with the communists being the good guys, indoctrinating the capitalist American pigs.

I detect sarcasm. But there REALLY are games like that now. While it doesn't directly say America by name they American military are the enemy. The name is "Glorious Mission" and seems to be quite popular.

 

[Evil Smurf]

I want a game with the communists being the good guys, indoctrinating the capitalist American pigs.

I detect sarcasm. But there REALLY are games like that now. While it doesn't directly say America by name they American military are the enemy. The name is "Glorious Mission" and seems to be quite popular.

Your sarcasm o meter is broken, thanks for the tip.

 

[CriticalMiss]

They really put some effort in to making it sound as generic and clichéd as possible, didn't they? And I expect the other squad members will be Shooty McWhitestubble and Stubbles O'Shootywhite.

Don't forget Beardly O'Coolhat, Sergent BritishMostache and Token Latino-Who-Gets-Shot.

Also a nuke will go off in a populated area. And that's like totally original and evokes the true face of war so we should all pause and think about it REALLY HARD before the cutscene ends and we get back to relentlessly cumb-stomping religious brown men with funny accents.

You can't forget the obligatory 'convoy gets ambushed' level or 'Helicopter shot down by RPG' scenario.

I'm also disappointed at the lack of a battle-ready parrot sidekick that you can use for recon and will attack foes by pecking out their eyes all whilst maintaining it's colourful plumage in stark contrast to the greys and browns of modern warfare that symbolise the hopeless nature of battle. You'd get an award for that kind of shit.