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craftomega

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Today I just got called a purist by my dad. I am 22, and it never even occurred to me. So I looked it up on Wiki, and to a point it was right.

I loathe censorship of music EX, the original contains swear words and the radio version takes them out. One of the best examples would be "This Is The New Shit"

Censored


vs. Uncensored


Needlessly censoring music like this, to me is basically a crime, you minors just try and paint over the mona lisa.

Another thing I?m a purist with is Archery.

Basically I dislike the new type of layered wood bows that are mainly used. I really dislike any form of artificial materials used in making the bow aka Olympic bows.

I hate any form of addition that makes them easier to shoot, such as stabilizers or sights.

And when it comes to compound bows... I honestly don't see any real difference to a compound verses a crossbow. Other than when you have to pull the string back there the same thing.

To me using a compound bow is no longer archery, I don?t know what it is... but it aint archery. You are taking 90% of the skill involved in using a bow and turning it into mechanical options.


These two things are my only issues of note, but I?m sure these feeling creep in, in other areas. So the point of all this.

TL;DR Are you a purist about anything? If so why?
 

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I was really pissed off back in the day, when Money for Nothing on radio did not include the entire bit about faggots.
 

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I really hate when games or any form of media really forget, or just lose sight of their themes when they have solid ones. Like if Persona 4 tapered off about the whole "seeking the truth" theme (which was the bomb, by the way) halfway through. I mean it would make no sense for them to do that but it's just an example.

Looking at you ME3. What the fuck was that?

Ok and I am always annoyed by people using assists in UMVC3... YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LIVE WITH A CHARACTER'S WEAKNESSES! Don't cover them with assists you pansy!

Phoenix Wright + Dante's Jam Session = Lololololololololol can't touch this. I learned to play hilariously aggressive with PW instead of playing pure runaway.

"Oh it's just the really terrible character, i'm sure I can-OH MY GOD?! STOP HITTING ME!"

There's nothing better than downing a character with just vanilla Phoenix Wright. #casualswag

I guess these are bad examples of being a purist since they are only little things, I dislike the idea of electronic books though. There's something lost if you just copy words into a little electronic notepad.
 

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I'm a purist when it comes to thinking purism is fucking stupid. That said, I'm also against censorship, but that has nothing to do with things being "pure", just with thinking that someone else coming in and censoring a piece of art is offensive.
 

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When playing an RPG, I will never mix and match abilities.
Most of the time i'll stick to one skill tree/branch only, but if I can I will max out one ability as far as possible.
Only if that ability is maxed out, I will move on to another.

Also, if i want to edit/draw an image, I will find one problem and stick with it for every need I have. Exporting back and forth between software just feels.... messy.
 

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I'm a Haruhi Suzumiya purist. I only read the light novels. I don't watch the anime or read the manga, and I never have.
 

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I prefer working in wet darkrooms rather than photoshop if I'm doing black and white. It's just more fun. I do think some music censorship leads to unintentionally fantastic stuff though, such as Old Dirty's classic, "Shame on a nuh."
 

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I'm not sure I understand the term right but Sci-fi I guess. Unless it has something truly unique and alien I don't consider it to be sci-fi, so fuck Star Wars and other galactic bore fests where guys from eighties live like everything is just like present just somewhat modernized. Over ten years has civilization changed more than over that far future they all pretend to be in.
 

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Vhite said:
I'm not sure I understand the term right but Sci-fi I guess. Unless it has something truly unique and alien I don't consider it to be sci-fi, so fuck Star Wars and other galactic bore fests where guys from eighties live like everything is just like present just somewhat modernized. Over ten years has civilization changed more than over that far future they all pretend to be in.
Star Wars doesn't take place in the future; it takes place long ago (in a galaxy far, far away)...
 

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I used to be in a lot of ways.
Now I just let go and enjoy. I think I am getting old. LOL
 

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I think it's pretty stupid to do this to a song. With Marilyn Manson you pretty much know what you gonna get so if you don't like that, don't listen to it. An other example is 'Little lion man' (Mumford & Sons), it is really fucking annoying to hear the gap where the word used to be. Luckily they don't censor much in that regard where I live.

I do not think it is really purism if you just want uncensored versions. Purism would be if you don't want anyone to make a cover because that would taint the original.
 

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Queen Michael said:
Vhite said:
I'm not sure I understand the term right but Sci-fi I guess. Unless it has something truly unique and alien I don't consider it to be sci-fi, so fuck Star Wars and other galactic bore fests where guys from eighties live like everything is just like present just somewhat modernized. Over ten years has civilization changed more than over that far future they all pretend to be in.
Star Wars doesn't take place in the future; it takes place long ago (in a galaxy far, far away)...
Yeah, I know that but is suppose to be futuristic. I just dislike the cultural imprint, technology isn't all that changes with time.
 

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craftomega said:
Another thing I?m a purist with is Archery.

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I hate any form of addition that makes them easier to shoot, such as stabilizers or sights.

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To me using a compound bow is no longer archery, I don?t know what it is... but it aint archery. You are taking 90% of the skill involved in using a bow and turning it into mechanical options.
This, a thousand times this! I shoot a recurve(albeit a laminated Samick Sage; I'm going to try my hand at making a pyramid flatbow soon) reflexively, and whenever I see those newfangled Olympic style bows, or even bows with optics, I can't help but think it's cheating, or at least minimizing the importance of the archer. Understanding and incorporating the imperfections in your bow is as much a part of the sport as your form. In reflexive shooting, it might even be more important. If you minimize your own contribution to the extent that the technology is more important than you, the individual, are you really any more than a glorified bow rack?

HAVING SAID THAT... I just ordered a new Bear Encounter compound a couple of days ago. I thought it might be nice to have a radically different option, although I'm worried that I'll be bored out of my mind by it if it's an automatic tack driver. I'm also hoping it'll be a little more like shooting a gun, which hasn't been an option since a school was built relatively close to my place half a decade ago.

Speaking of guns, I feel the same way about them, too--I was a competition marksman in my teens and I shot military surplus rifles with iron sights. I hate scopes, I hate plastic, I hate aluminum. Pinging the middle of a 1.5" target at 100m with a 70 year old, $90 Mosin Nagant M91/30 is an accomplishment; doing the same thing with a scoped $2000 AR is not.
 

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Vhite said:
Queen Michael said:
Vhite said:
I'm not sure I understand the term right but Sci-fi I guess. Unless it has something truly unique and alien I don't consider it to be sci-fi, so fuck Star Wars and other galactic bore fests where guys from eighties live like everything is just like present just somewhat modernized. Over ten years has civilization changed more than over that far future they all pretend to be in.
Star Wars doesn't take place in the future; it takes place long ago (in a galaxy far, far away)...
Yeah, I know that but is suppose to be futuristic. I just dislike the cultural imprint, technology isn't all that changes with time.
Y'know, I'm not sure if I've actually seen any sci fi showing how our culture could change.

Well there is one exception: Demolition Man

Yep, that's the only example I can think of.

EDIT: Just thought the Imperium of Man in 40k might count as well.

This "cultural scifi" sounds interesting, any reccomendations?
 

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Queen Michael said:
I'm a Haruhi Suzumiya purist. I only read the light novels. I don't watch the anime or read the manga, and I never have.
In that sense I guess that make me a Death Note purist, I've bought and read the entire manga collection but I never watched the anime version at all granted my reason for not watching it is because I already know what will happen (and I am not bother enough to see a certain scene in anime form).
 

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Archery purism is silly. Amish logic, technology to this point AND NO FARTHER.
 

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Baneat said:
Archery purism is silly. Amish logic, technology to this point AND NO FARTHER.
Think of it like FPS on console VS PC, on PC there is no aim assist and people regard it as the better experience. Console FPS has aim assist of all kinds and is considered inferior.

This is kind of the same argument with archery, you have these counter balances, pullies, breaks and all kinds of crap and it takes less skill to aim, compared to just a standard bow and a bit of string.

I am a bit of a purist, "swearing" in a song is ok but when it's removed it just breaks the flow of the song. Archery is the same, although I am not really into archery. I am sure there is more but I can't think at the moment.

 

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Baneat said:
I hate any form of addition that makes them easier to shoot, such as stabilizers or sights.
There isn't nothing wrong from using sights unless you got like 4x zoom optical lens or some laser sight otherwise people tend to do stupid things like referencing and then loosing x amount of arrows in the field which at my club we have to collect all of them before we finish. I'm not spending my time looking for arrows because of some "purity".

Still, if you're in a recuve competition and you've got no sight, you have no fucking chance against those using clickers.
 

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craftomega said:
Another thing I?m a purist with is Archery.
There is a distinction to be made between artistic purism and the case you've stated with archery. With Marilyn Manson, there, that's fine insomuch that the uncensored version was what he intended in the first place and people mucking with it for 'please think of the children' reasons have every justification for being ridiculed.

However, with archery, what started out as a method for hunting, then killing enemies and finally turned into a sport, with evolving technology, it was always going to be applied in such a way to increase performance. Now, what about arrows? Do you approve of, say, ACE's? Do you feather-fletch your arrows, what type of piles do you use? If you want to be a 'purist', then the answers should be, respectively, FUCK NO, yes & flint. Now, I speak as a (former) compound archer when I say that cams, the wall, release aids etc have indeed created a new field of play for archery, but you're very sadly mistaken if you think it's any easier. Flatter trajectories combined with natural drop makes any movement of the bowhand so much more unforgiving in compound archery than other disciplines and back-tension techniques need to be spot on or you can have variations in wall-strength that have a telling effect on the result. We can legitimately have a 58pt end at 70m and be pissed off because only one shot was 'perfect' (the 8, usually).

Regarding 'add-ons', they don't make the shooting any 'easier'... apart from clickers, and even that's debatable. And even barebow archers know to use buttons otherwise their arrows get fucked a lot quicker. Stabilisers don't 'make the shot easier' in any way, they're there as shock absorbers, taking the stress of the shot out of the riser & limbs. If anything, it makes the shot harder because of the added weight, especially since much of it ends up six feet-ish away from the body at full draw. What's important with archery is consistency and constancy. Sure, with a sight, it's 'easier', but if your technique's dodgy, it makes hardly any difference. Likewise with longbow/barebow archery, just a different sighting method which is no less crude, only more improvised.

And please don't compare compound bows with crossbows, it's demeaning...

Question back: how can one be a purist with guns?

PeterMerkin69 said:
Speaking of guns, I feel the same way about them, too--I was a competition marksman in my teens and I shot military surplus rifles with iron sights. I hate scopes, I hate plastic, I hate aluminum. Pinging the middle of a 1.5" target at 100m with a 70 year old, $90 Mosin Nagant M91/30 is an accomplishment; doing the same thing with a scoped $2000 AR is not.
If you want to be a 'purist', make Ezekiel & Plunket proud, then get back to me...