Lonan said:
samael_morningstar said:
Sigh... I don't like being an Anime snob, but I just am. If any of your 'favourite' or 'best' Anime include any of the following you officially have the mental capacity of a twelve year old: One Piece, Naruto, Dragonball Z, Bleach, Yu-Gi-O! If your favourite is Ikki Tousen or Goddanner or the like, please stop drooling, go have a cold shower (you dirty dirty person!) and go watch something decent, basically anything involving Mamoru Oshii, Shinichiro Watanabe or Mahiro Maeda, wiki them and pick a title, any title, please! You'll do us all a favour in helping develop better taste amongst Anime fans. But like I say, I'm a snob, lol.
The best Anime in my opinion is Stand Alone Complex. My personal favourites are Ergo Proxy, Neon Genesis Evangelion and Cowboy Bebop, in that order.
There's some juvenile aspects to the Naruto anime, but that hardly makes it for those with the "mental capacity of a twelve year old." Most of the juvenile aspects are in the filler. It's all completely original stuff independent of cannon, and needs to be released once a week without messing with the actual plot. It needs to be 20 minutes long, still have have the general theme of the actual series, and be released once a week. I'd like to see you do better. Also, does the fact that the main character starts out as a twelve year old mean anything to you?
Would you say that Code Geass, Death Note, or Full Metal Alchemist have more depth? Or list any other you wish to defend, I may have seen it.
I did warn you I was a snob. "Mental capacity of a twelve year old" might be harsh, but I am really sick of the prevalence and dominant popularity of these mass-produced, serialized and overall uninteresting anime, and yes I have watched each one I've claimed to be such.
Anime I would defend? Death Note was clever but unfortunately I found Yagami Light really annoying as a character. Code Geass I liked for its revolutionary politics, though I haven't watched Season 2 yet. Full Metal Alchemist had both heart and darkness, elements which I really appreciated, and that goes double for Brotherhood, I might not watch the first series again due to the epicness of Brotherhood.
Other Anime I would defend and recommend are: Lain, Texhnolyze, Mushi-shi, Withch Hunter Robin, Ergo Proxy, Gankutsuou, Last Exile, anything of Ghost in the Shell, Samurai Champloo, Wolf's Rain, Speed Grapher, Beck, Fooly Cooly, Infinite Ryvius, Crest of the Stars, Haibane Renmei, Patlabor 1 & 2, Sky Crawlers, Jin-Roh, Eureka 7, His and Her Circumstances, Crest of the Stars and Banner of the Stars.
All of these are top notch anime in my opinion (though admittedly in no particular order). Take your pick
Oh, and no, the fact that Naruto starts off at age 12 means nothing to me. There are plenty of narratives both animated and otherwise that are directed at audiences that include 12 year olds that don't suck! (ie: anything by Miyazaki!)