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This place was hell and I enjoyed every minute of it.
This place was hell and I enjoyed every minute of it.
Best "World" in Gaming
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Mass Effect or Fallout NV. A world is only as real as the people in it. And those two have the most "real" people in it. Oh, sure Azeroth may be big but can you think one guy that felt like person in that game? I can't.
I love Azeroth, though its not necessarily to-scale and weather patterns are a bit funky, I still find myself awed at the beauty of it. Especially Panderia.
Other than that, I'd have to say I think TES's maps have always been pretty immersive and just damn pretty. Especially with graphical updates done by bored modders.
GTA IV's Liberty City appropriately translated the grit and bustle of a Manhattan-like city and its surrounding area.
I'm also seeing San Andreas' revamp to be another masterpiece, and for its time the predecessor was probably one of the coolest maps I've ever played on.
Bioshock's "world" was pretty, and I'm interested in the new game's as well. Dishonored also got me with its plague-ridden cityscape and "Drunken Whaler" immersion tactic.
Also I loved FFX's world, though I wish they hadn't relegated the Airship to a static map with a "point where you want to go" interface.
All in all there have been a lot of games with awesome world-building and I don't think just one satisfies my aesthetic palate.
Other than that, I'd have to say I think TES's maps have always been pretty immersive and just damn pretty. Especially with graphical updates done by bored modders.
GTA IV's Liberty City appropriately translated the grit and bustle of a Manhattan-like city and its surrounding area.
I'm also seeing San Andreas' revamp to be another masterpiece, and for its time the predecessor was probably one of the coolest maps I've ever played on.
Bioshock's "world" was pretty, and I'm interested in the new game's as well. Dishonored also got me with its plague-ridden cityscape and "Drunken Whaler" immersion tactic.
Also I loved FFX's world, though I wish they hadn't relegated the Airship to a static map with a "point where you want to go" interface.
All in all there have been a lot of games with awesome world-building and I don't think just one satisfies my aesthetic palate.
Sort of. If only CCp released, like, any information. There is very little things we know about it and very little they say. Last time, they didn't even confirm which clans would be in, preferring to be vague with "the original ones". I'd assume they mean the 7, but dunno, why are they being vague? Bastards.BloatedGuppy said:
I must admit I loved the Deus Ex universe. I am a sucker for cyber-punk. I know I'm in the minority, but I really enjoyed the art style of Human Revolution and how the music went alongside it as this ominous, dark futuristic theme.
Mass Effect and Skyrim come to mind for me, however I will never be more interested more in what is between the lines of a world than Final Fantasy VII's planet. All these years later I still wish I could see more of the exhaust pipes and abandoned storefronts of Midgar's slums and streets. That world, more than any other, left me wanting more of it.
Halo blew me away the first time I played it, the scale of the ring itself was astounding, just looking up and seeing the other side of it... wow
And Tamriel is just plain my favourite place to wander, ES might not have the best combat or animation or whatever but the worlds....
And Tamriel is just plain my favourite place to wander, ES might not have the best combat or animation or whatever but the worlds....
For whatever reason, I loved the world of Xenogears. Maybe it's just because I sunk so much time into the game, but I loved the different factions and their backstory, the role of religion, and their take on futuristic architecture. I guess one major drawback is that the terrain was somewhat generic--you've got your average forests, mountains, deserts, etc. In that sense, it's hard to beat the world of Earthworm Jim.
Man this is a hard one, but I think the obvious mention goes to the world of Elder Scrolls. There is tons of history there, but honorable mentions go out to WoW's Azeroth and the world of Dark Souls. Especially Dark Souls, that world has such a rich background that if it ever continued to build on itself with the same quality, it could quite easily rival the Elder Scrolls in how well the world is fleshed out.
The Legend of Zelda universe is pretty unique - especially considering its split into three alternate time-lines.
Azeroth pre-cataclysm was probably the best. Blizzard made a very big world, a very detailed one, but probably most importantly one that felt alive and believable. I think partly due to the many small stories about everyday life.
The design of Cataclysm was good too, but when the designers decided to plasma bomb the old stuff and start anew, I lost confidence and faith in the world.
I've had some good times in Britannia. The geography is some of the best I've seen in an artificial world, but I never really believed in it. Something about the whole virtue setup I think that made it feel contrieved. But Origin made some of the best maps I've ever seen.
I got a letter from Origin once. A letter, not one of those modern fancy e-thingies. On the envelope it had a logo that said "Others create software, we create worlds". Thats the spirit you don't see often these days.
I don't have enough experience with Tamriel to judge it on its own merits. Gameplay mechanics always got in the way of my experience of the world.
New Eden has some extraordinary lore, and represents a lot of good times. But it's not a world, it's a bunch of stations and jump-gates and spreadsheets.
Fallen Earth deserves a special mention. Not because the lore has any significance, or for the quality of the narrative. But simply because the geography feels realistic. Scavenging in the outskirts of New Flagstaff, seeing the metropolis in the distance and knowing that it will take 10 minutes to ride there gives the world a sense of scale that I've rarely seen in other games. Although Wurm Online accomplishes something of the same.
The world of LOTRO looks great at a distance, in sort of an impressionistic way. I know it's Middle Earth, but reading about it just isn't the same as smelling crispy, burnt bacon in Michael Delving. Boy that game always makes me hungry, even during the darkest of times theres always someone, somewhere talking about food.
The design of Cataclysm was good too, but when the designers decided to plasma bomb the old stuff and start anew, I lost confidence and faith in the world.
I've had some good times in Britannia. The geography is some of the best I've seen in an artificial world, but I never really believed in it. Something about the whole virtue setup I think that made it feel contrieved. But Origin made some of the best maps I've ever seen.
I got a letter from Origin once. A letter, not one of those modern fancy e-thingies. On the envelope it had a logo that said "Others create software, we create worlds". Thats the spirit you don't see often these days.
I don't have enough experience with Tamriel to judge it on its own merits. Gameplay mechanics always got in the way of my experience of the world.
New Eden has some extraordinary lore, and represents a lot of good times. But it's not a world, it's a bunch of stations and jump-gates and spreadsheets.
Fallen Earth deserves a special mention. Not because the lore has any significance, or for the quality of the narrative. But simply because the geography feels realistic. Scavenging in the outskirts of New Flagstaff, seeing the metropolis in the distance and knowing that it will take 10 minutes to ride there gives the world a sense of scale that I've rarely seen in other games. Although Wurm Online accomplishes something of the same.
The world of LOTRO looks great at a distance, in sort of an impressionistic way. I know it's Middle Earth, but reading about it just isn't the same as smelling crispy, burnt bacon in Michael Delving. Boy that game always makes me hungry, even during the darkest of times theres always someone, somewhere talking about food.
It's on sale right now on GOG for 3$. http://www.gog.com/gamecard/arcanum_of_steamworks_and_magick_obscuraBat Vader said:I need to get this game now. Where can I find it? Is the character meant to be like that or does it depend on an IQ stat?Mycroft Holmes said:Firstly, why is everyone calling Azeroth the "WoW" universe like there weren't six Warcraft games released before WoW was even a thing?
Secondly, Arcanum is probably the most interesting. Metro 2033 and The Witcher also have very good lores, but it feels like cheating to use lore from already established book series. Fallout and Ultima would have been good as well were it not for EAs meddling in Ultima's lore and Bethesda meddling in Fallout's lore. Plus at the end of the day there's no place in metro/witcher/ultima/fallout for a shotgun wielding retarded half ogre.
And yeah it uses a stats system that is like Fallout's(as that's where most of the Arcanum devs came from.) One of those stats is intelligence and I think the threshold is anything less than either 4 or 3 out of 20 and the game switches to a completely different set of dialogue writing. You can also make a character with an idiot savant background which makes you have very high intelligence and amazing math/gambling skills but you talk like an idiot no matter what.
The character does not always have to be like that, Troika games was just unbelievably amazing at story and dialogue. If you do play as an idiot, other characters often trick you into doing things for them or just plain pray on your stupidity. But there's an absolutely huge variety of character types you can make. My favorite is a half-elf charismatic sharpshooter/inventor. But you can mix and match all kinds of things, I've played as an aggressive fighter halfling who relies on his dexterity to outmatch bigger opponents. A debutante human female who recruited others to fight for her and abstained from combat completely. A genius half-ogre inventor with no social graces.
