Best/Worst Major Villain? *spoilers*
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Ridley : is so awesome that he / she (?) has to appear in every good Metroid game. That beast looks so damn scary ! I love it hat Ridly got a lot of screen time in Super, Prime 1 & 3 to praise his coolness.
Black Viper in Contra 4 : killing one gigantic mantis like monster alien thing made of human corpses is one thing, but even fighting inside its body to blow its eyes and brain off makes it epic.
Diablo : is made of evil.
Bad
Tobias Bruckner : looks like shit, his voice sounds like shit, fighting him was shit and he is in one of the worst shit games I can imagine (Turok Evolution).
Ridley : is so awesome that he / she (?) has to appear in every good Metroid game. That beast looks so damn scary ! I love it hat Ridly got a lot of screen time in Super, Prime 1 & 3 to praise his coolness.
Black Viper in Contra 4 : killing one gigantic mantis like monster alien thing made of human corpses is one thing, but even fighting inside its body to blow its eyes and brain off makes it epic.
Diablo : is made of evil.
Bad
Tobias Bruckner : looks like shit, his voice sounds like shit, fighting him was shit and he is in one of the worst shit games I can imagine (Turok Evolution).
team aqua from pokemon shaphire. they weren't trying to be villians. they were trying to make the wourld a better place in crimanal ways
Best: The big plant thing from Mass Effect, the fight sucked donkey balls but the creature rocked.
Crazy Hand, because he's CRAAAAAZZZZYYYYYY!!!!!
Nergal from the first western Fire Emblem, he scared the shit out of me when he tore off that turban thing.
Worst: I tend not to remember the bad ones.
Crazy Hand, because he's CRAAAAAZZZZYYYYYY!!!!!
Nergal from the first western Fire Emblem, he scared the shit out of me when he tore off that turban thing.
Worst: I tend not to remember the bad ones.
Good: I liked King Bohan a lot, but that may just be because he was so insanely well done, written and acted. I still love to hate that bastard Irenicus from BGII, even though the actual fight was way way way too easy. And lastly, the final boss and subsequent revelation (no spoilers) in The Witcher blew me right away. Lovely.
Bad ones: Al-Mualim from Assasins Creed - in his FIRST appeareance, both me and my GF simultaneounsly exclaimed "He will turn out to be the main villain!"
(BTW, I hope I NEVER EVER EVER again encounter a game that apologizes for its existence as profusely as Assassins Creed. Starting with "This game was developed by a multi-cultural team with different religious beliefs", continuing with "It's OK, you don't REALLY play as an arab, you are his American descendant remembering his life, and also, that guy you don't really play as, he was NOT a moslem, and in fact was only HALF arab, so you are allowed to sympathize with him and hopefully we won't offend anyone" and finally make EVERY SINGLE TARGET have a cutscene where they do something really heinous and/or nefarious so you'll feel killing them is justified. In a game named "ASSASSINs creed". Seems Ubisoft have some real bad bosses as well.)
Bad ones: Al-Mualim from Assasins Creed - in his FIRST appeareance, both me and my GF simultaneounsly exclaimed "He will turn out to be the main villain!"
(BTW, I hope I NEVER EVER EVER again encounter a game that apologizes for its existence as profusely as Assassins Creed. Starting with "This game was developed by a multi-cultural team with different religious beliefs", continuing with "It's OK, you don't REALLY play as an arab, you are his American descendant remembering his life, and also, that guy you don't really play as, he was NOT a moslem, and in fact was only HALF arab, so you are allowed to sympathize with him and hopefully we won't offend anyone" and finally make EVERY SINGLE TARGET have a cutscene where they do something really heinous and/or nefarious so you'll feel killing them is justified. In a game named "ASSASSINs creed". Seems Ubisoft have some real bad bosses as well.)
So true, Saren was probably the most unlikeable villian that I ever saw.OverlordSteve post=9.69373.658212 said:
The Reapers were interesting bad guys though.
Bowser is full of mysterious backstory. For example: Why does he now only have one infant when he used to have 8 pre-teens, did he eat them? Or did they go off on their own to create their own princess kidnapping mayhem? We may never know...mspencer82 post=9.69373.658433 said:
For Good, I'm going with one in Apollo Justice, Ace Attorney: Spoilers for the last case.
Another good, and despite the heat i'll take for this .. Sephiroth. The villian you face in FF7 isn't the Sephiroth of Shinra. He's something else entirely, and very little remains of the man that everyone associates the name with, if you want to use the term "man" at all. A bright, powerful soldier who had the charisma, cool, and intelligence to climb the ranks and be a hero who was brought down when seeds of doubt (planted by Genesis Rhapsodos in Nibelheim) began to sprout and grow wildly once he read the reports of Professor Gast. Gast was wrong about his analysis of jenova, but being a man Sephiroth admired, his word was taken as the truth and that is what sent Sephiroth over the edge into a sea of maddness. That kind of stuff is fascinating to me, especially once you've gone through it enough to understand just what the hell happened.
/geek
As for the worst, in what I've gone through .. Ultimecia in FF8. Uhhh, just WHY did you want Time Compression (a ridulous concept in and of itself .. pretty sure the scenario team phoned it in at the eleventh hour, on that one) and ... what's with the speech impediment? Cool lady and everything, but ... whaaaaaaat the hell. Yeah, not cool.
Kristoph Gavin. When you found out about what he did, why he killed Shadi Smith / Zak Gramarye and why he wouldn't talk to Phoenix when questioned about it.. the man's deadly ambition reminded me of Macbeth. Mind you, he didn't have a Lady Macbeth whispering in his ear about stepping up on the ladder, unless you want to get philosophical and say his lady macbeth was his ambition.
Going back on point, Kristoph's ambtion was deadly, potent and he was willing to forge evidence to make his name known internationally. His reaction at the end, when the jury was revealed, that kind of .. horrified/disgusted initial reaction gave way to a loud, bitter, soul-shaking laugh when the veridct was read, and honestly, I was pretty spooked.
The game followed the first phoenix wright's "path" of taking away the rookie's mentor, but they brought it to a daker place I didn't think they'd go. Awesome villian. He countered / bluffed / intimidated with poise your arguments, until Klavier broke through it. Awesome, awesome villian.
Going back on point, Kristoph's ambtion was deadly, potent and he was willing to forge evidence to make his name known internationally. His reaction at the end, when the jury was revealed, that kind of .. horrified/disgusted initial reaction gave way to a loud, bitter, soul-shaking laugh when the veridct was read, and honestly, I was pretty spooked.
The game followed the first phoenix wright's "path" of taking away the rookie's mentor, but they brought it to a daker place I didn't think they'd go. Awesome villian. He countered / bluffed / intimidated with poise your arguments, until Klavier broke through it. Awesome, awesome villian.
Another good, and despite the heat i'll take for this .. Sephiroth. The villian you face in FF7 isn't the Sephiroth of Shinra. He's something else entirely, and very little remains of the man that everyone associates the name with, if you want to use the term "man" at all. A bright, powerful soldier who had the charisma, cool, and intelligence to climb the ranks and be a hero who was brought down when seeds of doubt (planted by Genesis Rhapsodos in Nibelheim) began to sprout and grow wildly once he read the reports of Professor Gast. Gast was wrong about his analysis of jenova, but being a man Sephiroth admired, his word was taken as the truth and that is what sent Sephiroth over the edge into a sea of maddness. That kind of stuff is fascinating to me, especially once you've gone through it enough to understand just what the hell happened.
/geek
As for the worst, in what I've gone through .. Ultimecia in FF8. Uhhh, just WHY did you want Time Compression (a ridulous concept in and of itself .. pretty sure the scenario team phoned it in at the eleventh hour, on that one) and ... what's with the speech impediment? Cool lady and everything, but ... whaaaaaaat the hell. Yeah, not cool.
Good Arthas: the whole human and undead campaigns were great storyline-wise for developing his badassedness.
Meh Ganondorf: As awesome as he is in Twilight Princess, somehow being stabbed to death for the umpteenth time hasn't hindered his career for triforce grubbing.
BAD The sorceress chick from Gladius.
Meh Ganondorf: As awesome as he is in Twilight Princess, somehow being stabbed to death for the umpteenth time hasn't hindered his career for triforce grubbing.
BAD The sorceress chick from Gladius.
I think the only one who actually evolve in the Mario Universe is luigi. He used to be Mario's clone, then a smart guy, then a guy who piss in his pants. You have to admit it.Lvl 64 Klutz post=9.69373.661069 said:
The Good: Kefka from FF6. I don't know why I like this guy so much, he's not really much more than the generic "I'm gonna destroy the world, because I can!" type of villain. There's just something about him I really liked. Maybe it's just because he was bat**** insane.
I also like Saren, he's one of the few bad guys that actually gets some decent development.
The Bad: Darth Malak from KOTOR. Don't get me wrong, I loved that game to bits. But I hated him. You can just tell the developers were trying to make him like Vader. The robotic voice, the lines, but it all just made him seem more forced. "Your predecesor once made the mistake of questioning my orders, Admiral. Surely you are not so foolish as to make the same mistake?" Ugh, I just hate that line. The only time I kind of liked him was in the big twist, but otherwise, no. Honourable mentions are the Prophet of Truth and any RPG character who was once an ally, becomes an enemy, then becomes your ally again.
I also like Saren, he's one of the few bad guys that actually gets some decent development.
The Bad: Darth Malak from KOTOR. Don't get me wrong, I loved that game to bits. But I hated him. You can just tell the developers were trying to make him like Vader. The robotic voice, the lines, but it all just made him seem more forced. "Your predecesor once made the mistake of questioning my orders, Admiral. Surely you are not so foolish as to make the same mistake?" Ugh, I just hate that line. The only time I kind of liked him was in the big twist, but otherwise, no. Honourable mentions are the Prophet of Truth and any RPG character who was once an ally, becomes an enemy, then becomes your ally again.
