Bethesda: Consoles to be the lead platform for Skyrim, aim to make it ?really accessible?

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NicoDK

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I feared it would just be a shitty port.
If it at least is on par with the fallout ports i can live with it i suppose.
 

GrizzlerBorno

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Here's a question: WHY the Fliipin Fuck do Developer's even Bother SAYING shit like this?

I'm serious. What does it achieve? Are they paid by MS and Sony to do so? Any console gamer who WOULD HAVE bought Skyrim; is GOING to buy Skyrim. Are you trying to get, like, grandmas to play TES. Cause you know that's not gonna happen.

And in the process, you just pointlessly tick off the PC crowd for NO discernible reason. MAKE the game accessible. MAKE it less about Number crunching. Don't fucking YAP about it, just release the fucking game, and let people form their own decisions AFTER they've tried it.

Otherwise, the only thing you gain.....is a loss in sales.
 

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danintexas said:
As I posted in another thread. Did you guys totally miss Oblivion? Look at the interface. The lock picking game. Making pots... everything about it.

It was made for console. Does that mean the PC version sucked?

Me thinks you guys are getting a bit worked up over nothing.
This. Just because a game is streamlined for the consoles doesn't mean the PC version will suffer. Plus, there are always mods for those who find it too unbearable...
 

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Noo!

Oh well, I hope they port it properly. If they put effort into reworking the controls a bit to better fit a keyboard and mouse, I'll be happy. Also, if there's any mouse input lag I will... be unhappy?
 

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Danceofmasks said:
drisky said:
Oblivion and Fallout 3 weren't that hard to control or go though menus. I don't know how much more accessible it could get.
How about taking a look at Fable 3 for an extreme case of accessibilitis?
You just threw a made up word at me and gave me no examples, I have no idea how to respond to that. My point is that I knew where to find every thing on my pip boy and how to do each action pretty quickly. Shooting was clunky, but thats not really a problem of how the buttons work.
 

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Great, The Elder Scroll's just lost the claim to be the most gorgeous game available when it comes out...Witcher 2 already beat it.
The industry must really think PC gamers like it in the rectum.

Bethesda basically saying: bringing down expectations might be good for our sales.
 

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Ninjamedic

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Hammeroj said:
Not only lazy, greedy. Which is precisely where the existence of a much larger audience on the consoles steps in and directs all the developer's attention to itself. Furthermore, PC elitism, if you insist on calling it that and portraying it in a negative light, is the opinion that games (some of them) have a much greater potential when they're developed for a PC without making compromises for the consoles. Simple as.
Which is an excuse to bash on consoles?
The causes of those compromises are another debate entirely.
And I see one of the main consequences of PC elitism to be the exaggeration of the "limitations" and as a result worse "comprimises".


Consoles are much more limited when compared to PCs, there can be no argument made on that and by saying it you reduce your own credibility.
The only real limitation I see is inferior graphics, and given that I think placing emphasis on rendering everything fifty times in a game at the expense of the story or actual gameplay is a major problem in the industry, I see the constant whining of graphical limitation to be a tad insulting. Especially when the same people who brag about graphical power also complain about the lack of story in games.

Oh, and extra keys for weapon/item mapping in FPS's and RPG's, because that D-pad on the PS3 controller is there simply for decoration.

As for the "unwarranted "improvement"" part, I'm not sure what exactly you meant.
When a Developer dumbs down a game due to sheer laziness, then blames console gamers because they are impatient, or they are unwilling to actually think etc. Believing the developers naively doesn't help.
See DA:O
 

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Uh, huzzah? Seriously, the whole 'dumbed down' issue makes no sense anyway. Accessible = good in my book. I like my games playable, thank you very much.
 

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Ninjamedic said:
DaHero said:
GreenSparks said:
I'm going to be torn apart for this, but am I the only one who doesn't care if it's on a console? I'm really starting to get annoyed by the smug sense of superiority that a lot of pc gamers get, like if you use a console like everybody else has been for the last thirty years, you're an inbred retard who doesn't deserve to have fun. I understand it if they're dumbing some of it down for a more casual market, but come on. At least now I'll be able to buy it. It comes out on the console, and Bethesda makes a lot more money. It doesn't come out on console, and the pc gamers get to feel like they're in a special little club, while Bethesda doesn't make quite a hefty profit. Let the company make its money, but stop whining about everything not being built for pcs.
It's not using the console, it's the fact that a controller is very (and I don't exaggerate) different from a keyboard and mouse. With a keyboard you effectively have 80+ keys that can do any number of things, but there won't be any support for that. The horses will also be fine tuned for consoles, meaning that using the A or D keys to turn will be the same as mashing the control stick as far in any direction as possible. PC gamers also won't get the ability to carefully walk using the mouse, something half the time they really need. To top it off, the amount of video card bugs that will ensue from the cheap port will be staggering.
That's a bit elitist don't you think? I don't see most people mapping 80 keys realistically, and on walking, you know on most console games you walk slowly by pushing the analog stick slightly in a direction right?

It's not "more accessible" it's just a dumbed down port, which is another way of saying "screw our fans, we're in it just for the money"
Because any company that needs to maintain profit is evil and corrupt, its automatic!
well if that company can maintain their standards and not piss of their fans then im fine with them but as soon as this "really accessible" shit appears you loose all respect you ever gained why cant they do a BF3 Do it For PC then dumb it down for consoles
 

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Dram drama drama. Big deal, modding will still be available on the PC so there's nothing to complain about. The UI is overhauled anyway so it doesn't matter if it's designed with accessibility in mind as long as it functions just as well on the PC.

Personally, I think it's good that the UI is being streamlined as this kept a lot of people from enjoying the game. If the game is designed to be smooth on consoles, it'll be just as smooth on PC if not more.
 

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ImmortalDrifter said:
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I'm sure the modding community will destroy any UI issues though.
I'm buying for the 360 anyway due to lack of funds to constantly upgrade my computer, but this seems like the end-all argument. As PC gamers you have access to mods and unofficial patches, so you really still have nothing to whine about.
No. The PC gaming should not be handed a broken game and told to finish porting it themselves. The existance of a MOD community should not be an escuse to not do something your game should include as standard. And a UI designed properly to work on each platform and to be suited to that platforms standard controls is a must.

While in many cases the PC version is still the best even on console led projects it doesnt mean that the PC version hasnt been limited by this. Nor should PC gamers themselves be made to fix the issues caused by such a decision.
 

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drisky said:
Danceofmasks said:
drisky said:
Oblivion and Fallout 3 weren't that hard to control or go though menus. I don't know how much more accessible it could get.
How about taking a look at Fable 3 for an extreme case of accessibilitis?
You just threw a made up word at me and gave me no examples, I have no idea how to respond to that. My point is that I knew where to find every thing on my pip boy and how to do each action pretty quickly. Shooting was clunky, but thats not really a problem of how the buttons work.
No, you're assuming you'll even get menus.

What's more accessible than a game that anyone can pick up and play, without ever having to mess with that complicated stuff like menus?

Fable 3.

It's not out of the question to think stuff like that might happen again .. after all, Final Fantasy is now linear.
 

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I fail to see how this is really bad for PC gamers. PC gamers have the ability to mod the game so in the end I fully believe they will get the superior product without a shadow of a doubt.
you do realise we cant mod everything out no one has gotten rid of the crappy horse control in oblivion nor could we fix the "I saw a mudcrab the other day" conversations.
 

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S3Cs4uN 8 said:
well if that company can maintain their standards and not piss of their fans then im fine with them but as soon as this "really accessible" shit appears you loose all respect you ever gained why cant they do a BF3 Do it For PC then dumb it down for consoles
And why should it be dumbed down for consoles? May I ask?
 

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drisky said:
Oblivion and Fallout 3 weren't that hard to control or go though menus. I don't know how much more accessible it could get.
That is my question. Aside from ditching the relatively pointless class feature, what else could really be done to make the game more "accessible"?
 

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I dont see why people are getting so worked up. Console players get a playable game and pc players will still have their mods to fix what they dont like, seems like a win win.

Also people need to stop their bitching and moaning and realize that yes video games are a business and that developers are not there to cater to your every desire but to make a profit
 

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Oh yay is all I can say :S
Another one pushed from "buy at launch" to "bargin bin", but hey they make more money and I save more money, big happy family.
 

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It's like the world is going retarded and the games must follow it down instead of leading it up to a smarter and more thoughtful society.

God, I miss games where you had to think.