Bethesda (Makers of such hits as Oblivion and Fallout 3) Says That WRPG's Are More Realistic Than JR
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No, really? Gravity defying hair, impossible odds, magic, appearances of humans that look like they couldn't exist, etc. that defines a JRPG versus a WRPG which is loosely based on reality? Holy Balls, Man!
I STILL enjoy JRPGs better though. Something about being able to tell a story (most of the time epic) without having to worry about choice all the time...
I STILL enjoy JRPGs better though. Something about being able to tell a story (most of the time epic) without having to worry about choice all the time...
Yes, because Oblivion, where I played a silent human warrior with magical powers battling to save the world is much more realistic than Chrono Trigger where I played a silent human warrior with magical powers battling to save the world.
I think there's a difference between "realistic" and "looks kind of like actual people". I've never played a truly "realistic" game.
I think there's a difference between "realistic" and "looks kind of like actual people". I've never played a truly "realistic" game.
You are comparing Oblivion to Final Fantasy. Let's run with that comparison.Phoenix_XIII said:
Compare Cloud's Buster Sword- starting equipment- to your starting sword in Oblivion. Which is more realistic?
Compare Oblivion's inventory system- which had actual mass/weight restrictions- to the inventory from pretty much any Final Fantasy game, which gives you near infinite storage.
Compare Transportation. In Oblivion you ride a horse, in Final Fantasy, not only do you ride giant chickens, but your entire party will often ride on just one giant chicken.
Compare the overall style of battle. In Oblivion you move back and forth, dodge, weave, and parry. In Final Fantasy, you generally have a turn based affair where everybody takes turns hitting each other, and returns to their original position after every attack.
It's true that Western RPG's are still unrealistic, but they are far more realistic by a huge margin.
I'm sorry, but this was way to fucking funny.Hal10k said:
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I can see the point that Bethesda is trying to make, but really, it's like saying that a unicorn is more real than a dragon because all it takes it a horse and an ice cream cone to make one, rather than a hundred guys and a ton and a half of paper mache. WRPG's are much prettier though. Not taking into account particle effects of course. If the Japs get one thing right, it's fucking particle effects. They're freaking beautiful.
I fully agree with Bethesda. People don't run around with hair that looks like hedges thats blue or green. It shows what times were like back in the day (minus the magic, and creatures and what not).
You know, if we're going to rag on about what's "realistic" in an escapist media like videogames, I'd say that character interactions, emotions, and world interactions are more worth thinking about than, say, mechanics of the world and aesthetic designs.
In which case, Oblivion is the most unrealistic piece of shit ever to grace the medium. Say what you must about FFXIII, but at least the characters had some personality, and weren't fucking wooden dolls with 3 actors to share between the several hundred NPCs...
In which case, Oblivion is the most unrealistic piece of shit ever to grace the medium. Say what you must about FFXIII, but at least the characters had some personality, and weren't fucking wooden dolls with 3 actors to share between the several hundred NPCs...
i think you have to actually think about what he's saying which you probably didn't do because you took it so "personally" and were probably offended.
you know what he means, and maybe "realistic" isn't the right word. jrpgs are waaayy more out there than western rpgs.
you know what he means, and maybe "realistic" isn't the right word. jrpgs are waaayy more out there than western rpgs.
Well I don't really play, or keep up with JRPG's so I wouldn't know. Sorry I spoke before thinking!Phoenix_XIII said:
well duh; wrpgs are based in actual time periods, actual myths, and for the most part try to have humans act like humans. apart from whiny teenagers, jrpgs tend to do their own thing; some hybrid of steampunk and magic filled with psychologically disturbed exposition-spouting meatbags for the most part.
and the simple fact is that western and eastern culture produce some very different interpretations of "normal"...
and the simple fact is that western and eastern culture produce some very different interpretations of "normal"...
If theyre saying that Jrpgs are less realistic than Wrpgs then we should think of it as a compliment.
This is your problem.Phoenix_XIII said:
For the most part, Bethesda is right, especially given the games they've made.
Also, they didn't make Hunted, just produced it for other devs.
We ride giant birds in real life and Battle doesn't matter.RelexCryo said:
It's just a way of fighting there are fast paced turn based games that simulate realtime action.
Jaime_Wolf said:
It's fine. The older JRPG's are the ones sporting crazy hair. Things are calming down a bit in the hair department and weapon department.TheFloBros said:
The games still really tend to be less realistic for the most part. I don't think there's anything wrong with that either - it's nice to be able to have realistic games and more fantastical games.Phoenix_XIII said:
Yes, this is true. Besides not being able to be killed (without mods) as a PC, Mount and Blade is one of the most realistic medieval RPGS out there. Although, I do have a problem with the fact that smashing someone in the head with a sledgehammer only renders them unconsciousTandrac said: