Bethesda Says Mojang's Scrolls Infringes on Elder Scrolls Mark

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i7omahawki

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Pessimist said:
I refuse to spoonfeed, again, the obvious to people unwilling to ask people THEY know or open up google.
I'm nobody's mom, I'm nobody's secretary. I'm not being paid to back my opinion up which will NOT change yours.
You discuss things, I discussed that I hate Notch because he's lazy [and he is], and you don't beleive me.
Don't use the Wiki "back it up!" excuse to make me work harder for your sake. I don't like people enough to -ever- do this.

To be fair I don't specifically remember, something about a patch breaking something that he only restored way later or some such. I saw it on a thread here a month ago. but, again, it's Notch so who cares.
If your opinion is as worthless as you think, don't bother posting it.

OT: Bethesda seem to have very little to gain here, and a lot to lose. Being allied with Mojang makes way more sense than controlling the word 'Scrolls'. And this is very confusing since Todd Howard and Notch seemed to get along very well.

Hopefully it'll be sorted out, though if they keep this up, I may reconsider Skyrim being a release-day purchase.
 

YunikoYokai5

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Many people know elder scrolls as scrolls
News to me o_O every time I/gamers I've spoken with bring up the Elder Scrolls series its either Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind etc. Even if I need to bring up scrolls, it always has Elder before it. I have never heard the Elder Scrolls referred to as 'Scrolls', ever.

OT - I do hope it's just lawyers being stupid. While I didn't enjoy Oblivion, I am going to give Skyrim a chance (once it comes down in price after initial launch). Only time will tell though, but I am siding with Notch on this one. I tried googling games with 'Scroll' in their name but couldn't find anything other than Elder Scrolls (and these online MMORPG things). Maybe someone else can who has better luck/better memory than me XD
 

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Pessimist said:
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Pessimist said:
I'm doing no such thing. It's just your [invalid] opinion that I am.
More useless pressure to do something I don't care, or want to do and certainly don't NEED to do.
You are not important to me. If you cannot use Google, I feel sorry for you.

I "assume" nothing. If among X million people by entering "notch is lazy" or " notch sucks" into google you get nothing then that certainly isn't my problem - you would find something if you tried.

Now you can all just move on and try to bait someone else, because this stubborn bastard isn't caving >=3.
Sup, i googled notch is lazy. And i found this.

http://lokkazad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/NotchWorkEthic.png

This proves notch works very very very hard. It was the first result. What the hell lol?
If you can't see the ONE HUNDRED days off taken in 2010 then there is something wrong with you.
Perhaps fanboy syndrmoe.
That was actually what I meant. Once he saw his precious little "project" was selling to the sheep, he pretty much gave up then realized oi blimey I gotta work a good half a year later.
Embarassing.

There are 104 weekend days in a year. 52 weeks a year. 2 weekend days on each. If he had taken regular breaks he would have taken 4 more days off. 100 days is nothing. You are wrong and basic maths proves hateboy syndrome. This doesnt account for christmas breaks and easter breaks also.

If you cant see that 100 is less than 104 days off taken in 2010 there is something seriously wrong with you.
Perhaps hateboy syndrmoe
That was actually what i meant. Once he saw his precious little project was selling to the deserving audience he pretty much started working normal hours like it was his job.
Logical.
 

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Thank you for blatantly jumping the troll bridge.
+ignore get.
Moving on fact avenue...
...why does this Bethesda Vs lazy person nonsense remind me of Sony VS GeoHot ?
I see. Any logical defence to my well reasoned maths. Please if you may point out where i was trolling. I would love to know for the future so as to not cause any offence. Fact avenue has a little house called 104. Its further along than house 100. I dont understand why you will not see basic fact and reason. Cmon, for someone who lives on fact avenue you dont seem to own many facts. Or in fact be able to disprove apparent "non facts". Cmon, im an obvious "troll" apparently. Take a tiny second to prove im a troll. I will send you 50 dollers in my paypall if you can refute my arguement. And a copy of minecraft.
 

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Well kids this is standard industry stuff, anyone with a patent or copyright will be throwing their lawyers around to see if they can scam anyone into a quick settlement, smaller the opposition better the odds.

DLC isn't the only way to make a quick buck ;)
 

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I post what I want. Sorry, freedom of speech yap yap yap.
Besides it's only worthless if the people against it can't appreciate it. Fanboys, and the like.
Bethesda tries making good games....with bad decisions. I think after New vegas they're sliiiightly panicking.
Obvious troll is very, very obvious.

On the actual topic, I think that Notch is right about it just "lawyers being lawyers". They're trying to do their job, but it seems they've been a little overzealous here. This brings back hilarious flashbacks of Edge, though.
 

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I'm still gonna buy Skyrim anyway. When many of the people crying foul to this are the same ones that think New Vegas was made by Bethesda, that's not the side of the bandwagon I want to be standing on. The weight of the idiocy will tip it over.
 

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Well, Chances are Bethesda's going to contact there lawyers and tell them to drop it. Because they do not need this when a big title of their own is about to drop.
 

GrayJester

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I have a better idea! Blizzard should sue Notch because "Minecraft" sounds similar to "Warcraft".
I'm genius.
 

I Have No Idea

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Pessimist said:
The other guy? Definitely.

Unwarranted drive-by insults from a person not involved? Also check.
You know the forest you preach about has trees in it right?
I'm waiting for the justification of the very first cutscene of New Vegas being bugged getting justified. I CANNOT wait for the fanboys to gush about how that was totally the plan - to have the first NPC you encounter have a head that spins around on its' own neck in psychadelic HELL.
I assume you mean Langdell when you refer to "the other guy".

And this is a public forum, anyone can get involved in a conversation. If you want to have a private one, the Escapist has a chat room.

Also, I don't really understand the tree metaphor...
 

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James Crook said:
Darknacht said:
James Crook said:
No_Remainders said:
Pessimist said:
I hate Notch
Because hating someone for making a very successful indie game is totally justified...?

OT: Dear Bethesda,

Fuck off and die. First they pull the bullshit with Interplay claiming that the packaging of Interplay's FO and FO2 box confused people with FO3 (which was utter bullshit), now this?

Really?
Woah, simmer down, it's not Bethesda's fault but their lawyers >:p
Bethesda's lawyers represent them, when their lawyers act like assholes it is Bethesda acting like assholes.
From now on I guess everyone has to name their games with a random series of letters to avoid using words anyone else has used.
But all lawyers are assholes...
That is because that is what they are paid to be. If Bethesda paid their lawyers to be shiny happy people they would be.
 

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I dont see why you cant use the word Scrolls, its like not being able to use "Call of _____" due to Call of Duty being so popular.
 

I Have No Idea

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Pessimist said:
I like how nobody even remotely addressed the "What if Skyrim sucks?" question =3
Well, that's not the topic of this thread, it's the supposed Bethesda name infringement.
 

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SirBryghtside said:
Also, if it is real (which it probably is), remember it's NOT Bethesda Game Studios, the devs. It's the Publishers.
This. I'm waiting to see how this all plays out... Hopefully nothing comes of it, but if if shit does go down... then I will be one pissed off TES/Minecraft fan.
 

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SirBryghtside said:
I'm doubting how real this is. Apparently one of the things it says in the letter is 'my employer invented the word Scrolls'.

wut

Also, if it is real (which it probably is), remember it's NOT Bethesda Game Studios, the devs. It's the Publishers.

BGS are still awesome, no matter what the lawyers do.
Yeah, pubs != devs. Even if they are in the same building.

I'm still buying Skyrim.

*holds up a knife*

NOBODY IS STOPPING ME!
 

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Wouldn't be the first time the lawyers make a case before actually telling the dev, can remember reading about activisions lawyers going after the 'world of starcraft' designer until blizz heard and called them off.
 

seraphy

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This gives Bethesda so much bad pr it is just silly. Surely they must understand that.

They should backtrack very fast and apologise to Notch if they want to keep their reputation in anyway intact after this.
 

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Oh boy, time to jump on the Hipster bandwagon. "I HATEZ BETHESDA DERP, I'MA NOT BUY THEIR GAMEZ HERP!!!!1!11" This will no doubt be done and forgotten in a week or two.
 

seraphy

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Gitty101 said:
Oh boy, time to jump on the Hipster bandwagon. "I HATEZ BETHESDA DERP, I'MA NOT BUY THEIR GAMEZ HERP!!!!1!11" This will no doubt be done and forgotten in a week or two.
You think it's ok to bully smaller companies with frivolous legal threaths then?

Good for you.