Bethesda Says Mojang's Scrolls Infringes on Elder Scrolls Mark

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karloss01

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I no lawyer but i'm pretty sure you can't trademark a word thats in common usage (though i'm sure you can trademark the word in a particular font or logo).

so pretty much no case here.
 

FoolKiller

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I'm still surprised that Squeenix didn't sue MistWalker over the Last Story...

Last = Final
Story = Fantasy

hmm...

but clearly, use of the word scrolls from now on belongs to Bethesda.


On a related note Super Mario Brothers founder Nintendo has laid claim to the word super. Unfortunately many former superheroes now have to refer to themselves as exceptional heroes. Most are okay with the change however Clark Kent had to change his hero attire to have a red 'E' on it depicting Exceptional Man.
 

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In other news, the unofficial, fanbase name for the new "sky dimension" in Minecraft will be "Skyrim".
 

Mr Companion

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I dont care much for Mojang, but even I find it funny seeing Bethesda lawyers doing the whole "Edge" thing of saying they own a word of the English dictionary.
 

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Pessimist said:
No_Remainders said:
Pessimist said:
I hate Notch
Because hating someone for making a very successful indie game is totally justified...?

OT: Dear Bethesda,

Fuck off and die. First they pull the bullshit with Interplay claiming that the packaging of Interplay's FO and FO2 box confused people with FO3 (which was utter bullshit), now this?

Really?
I hate him for being smug and lazy, coming out of left field with something many have done before him but profiting off it because people inexplicably pick it up and stuff money in his undeserving pockets?

as for Bethesda. I think of it as "that one company" that can't make games properly. They have a world, a story, good writing. And then it doesn't work. It's all broken, glitchy, disjointed. Fallout 3 had awkward 2 foot barriers and 15 long metro trips for one quest destination ,New Vegas froze every 2 minutes for an hour straight [I wish I was kidding], and so forth and so forth.

I think of Bethesda as the company most likely to be assimilated by Valve. Because neither studio pushes out games that -work- correctly most of the time [hi Crash Course \ L4D]
....
Are you serious with that last bit?
YOU ARE!
HAHAHAHAAHHAAHA!
So Valve INSTANTLY doesn't make games that work because 1 campaign that was a DLC for a full pledged game that worked that also was fun, demonizes them, they also fixed those bugs, seems like YOU got a grudge. Yeah, but lets take this whole thing at face value, if you WERE right, then I can't play either Fallout game without encountering a glitch within about a hour. Well, be surprised because I never UPDATED either Fallout title on my 360, and they run pitch perfect, so, right there I guess. Well, to the topic, I think Notch won't get sued because the people that would leave Bethesda's side would be TOO GREAT, losing customers is way more deathly then one being confused.
 

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I have a difficult time believing that Bethesda thinks they're going to win this one.

I think they're trying to delay the Adventure update so that they can release Skyrim more unopposed. And if that's the case, well fuck you too Bethesda.
I don't think they're doing it to delay the update, that's a little too evil. Still, this is bullshit, no way this can stand up in court.
 

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Welcome to the world that your entertainment dollars have purchased and allowed to flourish. Aren't you proud?
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
lately Bethesda seems to be more and more sue crazy over really weird things
 

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Well...I can see where Bethesda is getting at. If someone said heard of that "scrolls" game..Id go right to The Elder Scrolls. However...I think Skyrim and the rest of the series wont be harmed by that. If anything, the scrolls game suffers. I think Bethesda is wasting time though with this one.
 

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I hate Notch, but Bethesda throwing a hissyfit over this is priceless.
It's like they're going to copyright the word "scrolls" to avoid you mixing up a detailed, good-graphic exploration-rpg with a blocky pixelated sandbox build-a-thon.
Derp.
Off topic here, but wow reading your posts on this thread is entertaining. Its like a car crash where you cant look away, you post ridiculous things then when people confront you with logic you refuse to address them
 

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This is ridiculous and I hope he either takes it to court or gets Bethesda to back out. Scrolls does not equal The Elder Scrolls. The idea that Bethesda owns the plural of "Scroll" is just.. so very wrong.
 

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Pessimist said:
Macrobstar said:
Pessimist said:
I hate Notch, but Bethesda throwing a hissyfit over this is priceless.
It's like they're going to copyright the word "scrolls" to avoid you mixing up a detailed, good-graphic exploration-rpg with a blocky pixelated sandbox build-a-thon.
Derp.
Off topic here, but wow reading your posts on this thread is entertaining. Its like a car crash where you cant look away, you post ridiculous things then when people confront you with logic you refuse to address them
Congrats on taking time out to be incorrect and insulting.
Sorry you can't grasp logic and facts.
Can the prepubescent kids stop jerking off over me and move on now?
I know I'm new and scary and of course aware that "DOES NOT AGREE WITH = TROLL" but really now =3.
You even went off-topic purely to be incorrect. What's with this obsession with me you creepy stalkers :-D
Jesus you can't just be intelligent and address what people have said to you can you?
An opinion is fine but don't expect it to be valid when you can't even produce reasons for it or counter simple logic
 

Macrobstar

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Pessimist said:
Macrobstar said:
Pessimist said:
Macrobstar said:
Pessimist said:
I hate Notch, but Bethesda throwing a hissyfit over this is priceless.
It's like they're going to copyright the word "scrolls" to avoid you mixing up a detailed, good-graphic exploration-rpg with a blocky pixelated sandbox build-a-thon.
Derp.
Off topic here, but wow reading your posts on this thread is entertaining. Its like a car crash where you cant look away, you post ridiculous things then when people confront you with logic you refuse to address them
Congrats on taking time out to be incorrect and insulting.
Sorry you can't grasp logic and facts.
Can the prepubescent kids stop jerking off over me and move on now?
I know I'm new and scary and of course aware that "DOES NOT AGREE WITH = TROLL" but really now =3.
You even went off-topic purely to be incorrect. What's with this obsession with me you creepy stalkers :-D
Jesus you can't just be intelligent and address what people have said to you can you?
An opinion is fine but don't expect it to be valid when you can't even produce reasons for it or counter simple logic
Address juvenile prepubescent internet child insults from people I never heard of, seen, or talked to that came 150% unwarranted?
I am. I'm dismissing it and laughing at it . Other than "can't be intelligent", you got it right.
It's valid enough to me, but people who after an hour of actually explaining they should do things for themselves find proof and insult me over it with the stubborn disbelief of a kid finding out Sailor Moon wasn't real is neither my fault, nor my problem.

Again, I am not your babysitter, you are not my job, you are not my family and none of you are my friends. Why would I want jerkface friends that insult me randomly?=3
Stop putting responsibility on me that doesn't exist, kids. Especially while DERAILING a topic *purely* to insult me, k?
Kkthx go to SPUF if you want to do the "creature under bridge" thing.
Your delusional, when did anyone insult you? And why do you keep calling us kids?

Ok lets start again shall we?
Hey Pessimist, why do you hate notch?
 

YunikoYokai5

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Macrobstar said:
Pessimist said:
Macrobstar said:
Pessimist said:
I hate Notch, but Bethesda throwing a hissyfit over this is priceless.
It's like they're going to copyright the word "scrolls" to avoid you mixing up a detailed, good-graphic exploration-rpg with a blocky pixelated sandbox build-a-thon.
Derp.
Off topic here, but wow reading your posts on this thread is entertaining. Its like a car crash where you cant look away, you post ridiculous things then when people confront you with logic you refuse to address them
Congrats on taking time out to be incorrect and insulting.
Sorry you can't grasp logic and facts.
Can the prepubescent kids stop jerking off over me and move on now?
I know I'm new and scary and of course aware that "DOES NOT AGREE WITH = TROLL" but really now =3.
You even went off-topic purely to be incorrect. What's with this obsession with me you creepy stalkers :-D
Jesus you can't just be intelligent and address what people have said to you can you?
An opinion is fine but don't expect it to be valid when you can't even produce reasons for it or counter simple logic
Couldn't have said it better myself XD I'd been reading his comments as well and laughing at them. Some of them are just pathetic, especially when he pulled the troll card for no valid reason.
 

Denamic

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Pessimist said:
I refuse to spoonfeed, again, the obvious to people unwilling to ask people THEY know or open up google.
I'm nobody's mom, I'm nobody's secretary. I'm not being paid to back my opinion up which will NOT change yours.
You discuss things, I discussed that I hate Notch because he's lazy [and he is], and you don't beleive me.
Don't use the Wiki "back it up!" excuse to make me work harder for your sake. I don't like people enough to -ever- do this.

To be fair I don't specifically remember, something about a patch breaking something that he only restored way later or some such. I saw it on a thread here a month ago. but, again, it's Notch so who cares.
I hate you because you're smug and lazy.
I'm only stating the obvious truth and don't have to back up my claims in any way, because this isn't a wiki.
 

ServebotFrank

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Pessimist said:
Aprilgold said:
Pessimist said:
No_Remainders said:
Pessimist said:
I hate Notch
Because hating someone for making a very successful indie game is totally justified...?

OT: Dear Bethesda,

Fuck off and die. First they pull the bullshit with Interplay claiming that the packaging of Interplay's FO and FO2 box confused people with FO3 (which was utter bullshit), now this?

Really?
I hate him for being smug and lazy, coming out of left field with something many have done before him but profiting off it because people inexplicably pick it up and stuff money in his undeserving pockets?

as for Bethesda. I think of it as "that one company" that can't make games properly. They have a world, a story, good writing. And then it doesn't work. It's all broken, glitchy, disjointed. Fallout 3 had awkward 2 foot barriers and 15 long metro trips for one quest destination ,New Vegas froze every 2 minutes for an hour straight [I wish I was kidding], and so forth and so forth.

I think of Bethesda as the company most likely to be assimilated by Valve. Because neither studio pushes out games that -work- correctly most of the time [hi Crash Course \ L4D]
....
Are you serious with that last bit?
YOU ARE!
HAHAHAHAAHHAAHA!
So Valve INSTANTLY doesn't make games that work because 1 campaign that was a DLC for a full pledged game that worked that also was fun, demonizes them, they also fixed those bugs, seems like YOU got a grudge. Yeah, but lets take this whole thing at face value, if you WERE right, then I can't play either Fallout game without encountering a glitch within about a hour. Well, be surprised because I never UPDATED either Fallout title on my 360, and they run pitch perfect, so, right there I guess. Well, to the topic, I think Notch won't get sued because the people that would leave Bethesda's side would be TOO GREAT, losing customers is way more deathly then one being confused.
Left 4 dead. FORCED broken gameplay mechanic.
"four campaigns for versus". Yeah. They release 2 on launch day. And the remaining 2? HALF A YEAR LATER.
But but but Crash Course! Yeah, WAY later and on release you could walk through almost -everything- . Ten seconds of playtesting would have found those bugs, but clearly, ten seconds is too much real time to spend testing your own faulty products.

Valve doesn't know what it's doing, fact. Period.
TF 2 is a good example. When I got it after the Medic update it was fun, quirky, balanced, ran fine.
Now it's a buggy, jumbly mess of freezing, crashing and hanging failure with rainbow-acidtrip hats and the "unique art style" gleefully thrown in the crapper for greedy corporate profitmongering.
TO be more specific, the first thing was Idling. 2-3 months without a word saying "don't do this", Valve suddenly humiliates you by calling you a filthy cheater, takes all the items you got and infact gives people too stupid to sign on during that time a hat for not idling - who would have idled anway. This split the fanbase ferociously because their dear company insulted them and because this came out of nowhere. You were now "less" because the fat cows at Valve deemed it so based on their own judgment.

Or hey, how about that "minor" update last year that was supposed to do something small and ended TOTALLY BREAKING steam friends? For hundreds of thousands of people, for six or so hours? Valve does not know how to program. Valve does not playtest and I'm -very- certain valve does not know what it is doing.
I'd normally laugh at pointing to SPUF for proof but go look. Even they notice that the Soldier has gotten so many launchers, melee items and gimmicky gear versus other classes like the Engineer that "balance" has gone out the window [rather, it drives that obvious point home].

Not to mention how they brutally markup games for non-americans and how they *steal* your games. I had TF 2. someone bought me the Orange Box. I thought I'd have an extra TF 2 to gift. Not according to Valve! You paid for TF 2 but you don't get it and they "can't" transfer games, which is complete total and utter bogus. Then the whole $1 is not ?1 business.

I could seriously go on for a WHILE.
Will you quit your bitching?

Left 4 Dead: Those two missing campaigns for versus were released for FREE, along with a brand new mode so I thought it was worth any sort of wait. Also if you were on the PC you got free community maps and what are you talking about on "being able to walk through it?" The game was playtested very well and the bugs I saw were fixed pretty quickly.

TF2: TO be honest I don't play Team Fortress 2 too much but those bugs were fixed and they balanced everything out.

Also shut up. You refuse to give us your sources like any credible person on this site would. You keep this up and I'm pretty sure the mods will act. Give us your source of information or get out.

Also I searched up "Notch is lazy" and I got a chart detailing his development time for Minecraft. He worked his ass off and in 2010 which you keep bringing up, If he were to say take every weekend off, his vacation time would be shorter then that.