Bethesda Says Mojang's Scrolls Infringes on Elder Scrolls Mark

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Vohn_exel

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I really like Bethesda, but if they're behind this I'll lose some respect for them. This sounds just petty and stupid, I like Notch and Bethesda, I'd hate to see them go at it over one stupid word.
 

RA92

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BiscuitTrouser said:
Pessimist said:
Thank you for blatantly jumping the troll bridge.
+ignore get.
Moving on fact avenue...
...why does this Bethesda Vs lazy person nonsense remind me of Sony VS GeoHot ?
I see. Any logical defence to my well reasoned maths. Please if you may point out where i was trolling. I would love to know for the future so as to not cause any offence.
See, there is a troll between you and Pessimist, but it's not the one who he thinks it is.

Pessimist said:
I'm ashamed to be called a human next to worthless animals like you, children.
In the meantime, try to avoid the impending nuclear missile, actually work on your awful education system and try to develop LOGIC and THINKING for yourself. Shoving facts ni your face did nothing but make yuo insult me. Americans indeed!
9\11 FTW.
Bye tards.
Pessimist said:
Yes yes ure funny hururur
Actually you are just a little n1gger with no intelligence to be original, too stupid to realize what FACTS are and insulting others because you are an insecure c*nt.
9\11 FTW people. Shame only 3 thousand of you died there :-\
Man, I really miss trolls like you. Haven't seen your breed in quite a while around these forums. Anyway, here comes the banhammer.
 

SoranMBane

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Let's see, they're doing this in the wake of the whole Langdel fiasco, they're bullying a well-respected and loved indie developer, there's almost no way the two games could ever be confused, and they have no case anyway. All the evidence points towards Bethesda's public relations people being mentally retarded or on vacation at the moment. Either that, or the PR guy is currently eating the legal team alive, because there's no way they couldn't see how stupid this is and how hard it could bite them in the ass later on.
 

dancinginfernal

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Saw this on another site, it's actually ZeniMax. Bethesda's parent company, not Bethesda itself.

Fuck off ZeniMax.
 

InsaneMaggot

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dancinginfernal said:
Saw this on another site, it's actually ZeniMax. Bethesda's parent company, not Bethesda itself.
Could you source this please, i'd also like to read that article.
Never heard of that[ZeniMax being bethesda's parent company], but i'm not uptodate anyway
 

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weker said:
Again as I posted on CVG most people will side with notch because he is the under dog.
Many people know elder scrolls as scrolls and if Bethesda are doing I doubt it's because they want to hurt notch.
Law is the law after all.
I have NEVER heard the TES series(or ANY of the games in it) called "scrolls" by ANYONE, EVER. I have a proper,intense HATRED of Minecraft on a personal level and wouldn't side with an underdog(just as I don't support the continuity IRA just because there aren't very many of them and they have zero power)just BECAUSE they're the underdog either.

Fact is sometimes lawyers get their paymasters to take on LUDICROUS cases where there's little chance of anything, outside of court, or anyone feeling a real grievance even needs airing let alone compensating for-and this is one of those. The fact that the word "scrolls" now has little to no bearing on the games in the series, that the're all referred to by their individual subtitles anyway(I.E Morrowind etc)and that if anyone DOES refer to the series as a whole they usually say the whole thing or TES(esp in print where , I think, most discussion about their games goes on on the net)and never just "scrolls". Not in my experience anyway.

Even if they DID you'd have to, kind of, make out the word was either made popular by the series, by the dev or by the publisher elsewhere OR invented by them-none of which is strictly, you know, true, is it? Surely few people at Bethesda themselves can be THIS small minded and litigious over nothing and it only shows how hair triggered legal minds can be in seeing a case(and profit)where there's nothing.Christ, Notch doesn't make massive AAA games at all and this isn't gonna be a competitor to TES:Skyrim on any level at all, there's no similarity in the gameplay at all and, as far as I can see, no case or point at all beyond making a few lawyers a bit richer and a dev a bit poorer and delaying a game or two.
 

Cain_Zeros

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Yeah, I saw Notch's post about this on his Tumblr. I share his hope that Bethesda isn't going to pull a Tim Langdell.
 

Sonic Doctor

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Those lawyers are troll-tastic, just like the guy that was wonderfully rubbed out of existence in this thread.

I give a pat on the back to the mods. It's always fun to be reading some troll antics and poof, oh, where'd he go? Keep up the awesome.
 

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EverythingIncredible said:
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I have a difficult time believing that Bethesda thinks they're going to win this one.

I think they're trying to delay the Adventure update so that they can release Skyrim more unopposed. And if that's the case, well fuck you too Bethesda.
I don't think they're doing it to delay the update, that's a little too evil. Still, this is bullshit, no way this can stand up in court.
This is actually something that is fairly common. Companies sue other companies just to ruin their plans.
Sometimes, yes. But this is the equivalent of McDonalds going after a hotdog vendor working a corner in downtown. I know Bethesda is a big hated company (the next Activision, perhaps), but really?
 

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At the top of that letter to notch, the lawyer states that he is acting on behalf of ZeniMax Media Inc.
So does Bethesda have anything to do with this? Maybe the publisher is just trying to grab a few bucks off of Mojang.
 

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What? Really? So if I got a kitten and called it Scrolls would they try and sue me too?
 

Weaver

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Surely you can use the word "scrolls" in a video game title. Maybe Microsoft has a trademark on "scoll bar" and they're going to sue zenimax now.
 

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I am always so torn about Bethesda. They make amazing games - I loved Oblivion and Fallout 3, can't wait to start New Vegas which I just got, and I'm sure I'll love Skyrim in 20 years when I have a computer that can run it. But they are so terrible at PR. They don't upkeep their games after a few months, even not fixing game-breaking bugs, and it seems like every few months something like this pops up. I think the company itself may be an autistic savant.
 

Robert Ewing

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Lulzy Bethesda. By this logic, any form of media with the word 'wars' in it is a complete copy write infringement on Star Wars.

Also, I guess some minecraft fans won't feel guilty giving Bethesda some pirate related problems in November.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Sonic Doctor said:
Those lawyers are troll-tastic, just like the guy that was wonderfully rubbed out of existence in this thread.

I give a pat on the back to the mods. It's always fun to be reading some troll antics and poof, oh, where'd he go? Keep up the awesome.
I was looking for his profile. It's just gone. Crazy. They went Time Police on his ass.
I can't find him on my history. It's like Back to the Future where Doc say, "Erased...from existence."
 

Sonic Doctor

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Sonic Doctor said:
Those lawyers are troll-tastic, just like the guy that was wonderfully rubbed out of existence in this thread.

I give a pat on the back to the mods. It's always fun to be reading some troll antics and poof, oh, where'd he go? Keep up the awesome.
I was looking for his profile. It's just gone. Crazy. They went Time Police on his ass.
Yeah, it's one of those times I think about creating a virtual cookie and cake dispenser for the mods.

It's also kind of like the forum equivalent of a Jedi mind-trick.

Mods: There is no troll here, you are happily discussing how lawyers are being stupid.

Me: Lawyers, they are stupid.
 

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Scizophrenic Llama said:
I bring up Elder Scrolls and 60% of the time I get asked, "What is that?" and have to respond with Oblivion and then they go, "Oh!"
Same, one of my friends has taken to referring 11-11-11 as "skyrim day" and most of the time still blanks when I say the words Elder Scrolls