Bieber gets schooled on his own Twitter account

[ImprovizoR]

That made me laugh. This is shaping into a very good day. Hitman 5 screenie first, and now this. Awesome!

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

Owned cant wait to see beibers reply

I'm pretty sure his reply was to quietly donate more money.

EDIT: Seriously, people. You think that someone saying "Pray for Japan" means to only pray? I'm pretty sure most Christian folks will be donating whatever they can as well as praying.

 

[murphy7801]

I'm with Sober Thal here - I don't really see how this is a schooling. Lots of people say there prayers are with (insert place and/or person here). Obama did it a few days ago.

But because this is Bieber he is "schooled". He most likely is donating a lot of his money to Japan.

"DONATE YOUR MONEY! PRAYER DOES NOTHING!" Is nothing short of obnoxious. If someone said "my thoughts are with the people who are suffering in Japan" nobody would comment, would they? There was a lot of people saying that in the Escapist thread about the Japanese disaster and no one commented with "DONATE MONEY THOUGHTS ARE USELESS!". It is anti-theism.

And what's worse is I bet most the people who go around posting that haven't donated anything.

According to numerous sources - Bieber has donated over a million dollars. It's kind of pathetic, that during a disaster, people are more preoccupied with a child being "schooled!" on a twitter account because of something he said that some person didn't agree with than they are with the actual disaster itself. I don't like Bieber's music - in fact, I would go as far to say I hate Bieber's music. But the kid obviously does care about the tragedy and he is actually dong something about it. I dunno, it just seems like bullying to me.

But wait - it's okay to bully people as long as they make more money than you and are famous for doing something you don't like. Isn't it?

Grow up. This is one aspect of internet culture I can't stand.

Maybe if the poster had advised him donate money and explained that Japan is a Shinto/Buddhist country and what that means might have been better?

 

[Ravnican]

As I understand Bieber has donated quite a lot to the cause, making the response inadequate. I'm all for slapping him across the face when he sings, but not when he does something good.

 

[Alon Shechter]

Yeah, good work improving the image of the internet with this stupid hate.
He's talentless, WE GET IT, move on!

 

[fundayz]

Wait, you mean good intentions alone DON'T make a difference?

 

[Faladorian]

"DONATE YOUR MONEY! PRAYER DOES NOTHING!" Is nothing short of obnoxious. If someone said "my thoughts are with the people who are suffering in Japan" nobody would comment, would they? There was a lot of people saying that in the Escapist thread about the Japanese disaster and no one commented with "DONATE MONEY THOUGHTS ARE USELESS!". It is anti-theism.

The difference between saying "Im going to pray for so-and-so" and "im going to keep so-and-so in my thoughts" is that the latter is being considerate, while the former is just people's way of saying "it's terrible, i want to help, but not in a helpful way." The whole idea is that they think they're helping and they put on a facade of helpfulness, when in fact they've done absolutely nothing to help.

If there was a God, why wouldn't he just stop the earthquakes and tsunamis? And if he caused them, why pray to him? He's obviously a dick. Or does he just not care?

This is the issue I have with prayer. People act righteous because they are praying for something, when in fact it's just a way of seeming morally acceptable while remaining inactive.

It's only anti-theistic because people use theism to excuse laziness and apathy.

 

[Plurralbles]

... way to be an edgy prick, person who tweeted that.

 

[Manji187]

amm... if you google around for a bit, he "suposedly" donated 1 million dollars... or more...

i dont really think this is relevant, just another aspect of the hate machine, i dont like that kid, i dont like his songs, i dont like what he represents

but this is just ridiculous, how much money did the guy that made the reply donated??

I don't care about Justin Bieber...but I'm curious. What does he represent according to you?

 

[HentMas]

amm... if you google around for a bit, he "suposedly" donated 1 million dollars... or more...

i dont really think this is relevant, just another aspect of the hate machine, i dont like that kid, i dont like his songs, i dont like what he represents

but this is just ridiculous, how much money did the guy that made the reply donated??

I don't care about Justin Bieber...but I'm curious. What does he represent according to you?

for me?, well, the whole "teen pop idol" theory, the way corporations try to sell his immage to little girls, the common denominator, the broathest range of people, lyrics with no meaning, catchy yet harmless tunes, zombie music, the same as "hanna montana" "the jonas brothers band" "the cheeta girls" and other simmilar groups, no chances are being taken, nothing mind teasing or at least smarth, just the "teen pop idol" generator crap that corps like to push because they know little kids and little girls dont have enough criteria to look beyond the mindless lyrics, ever heard of "Friday"? that song by Rebeca Black?, she didnt wrote the song, the song was written by the corp she went to have an audition, and the damn song is incredibly dumb, in the lyrics, she says NOTHING at all, just an example of what people in the industry will sell!, "they are dumb and stupid, they dont know better, it will sell"

that patronizing attitude is what i hate, and all the "teen pop idols" do nothing but enforce this way of thinking, to represent and place high that way of thinking... i know its their "Job" and such, but hell if you killed wales for a living i would still tell you i dont like everything you stand for.

 

[Hectix777]

I don't get it.

What is this link supposed to show us?

EDIT: Isn't it another poster who says 'your prayers are worthless?

EDIT 2: So a guy is telling a rich kid to donate money? This is the big deal?

No, the big deal is that some kid with a shit load of money and a BS reputation for being "not-a-douche" thinks of sending a prayer(an act of folding ones hand and asking GOD really nicely to help them that usually doesn't work unless you do it frequently and with meaning) over money(something that could do some REAL good over a deity who works in small and mysterious ways never directly showing himself).

1) What world do you live in where Justin Bieber has a "not-a-douche" reputation?

2) How do you know what his financial dealings are?

3) You sound insulting towards people who pray for others.

4) Why am I sounding like I'm defending some pop idol?

5) Bill Gates is one of the most generous (ranked as the second most generous philanthropists in America in 2007) people to have ever lived. (Donation wise)

I just wanted to throw that last point out there for no other reason than Bill gets a lot of unreasonable hate too. I think it's mostly his wife doing it tho.

Alright I agree with he Bill Gates thing.

1)***** Bieber has a supposed reputation of being a good role model like the Jonas bros, I.e. Not-a-douche reputation

2) from the posters, same songs, publicity, and legion of tween grips following him like an undead legion follows a necromancer, he's bound to have at least 5 mil

3)I'm not trying to insult those who pray, I'm religious just like the rest of my family. I'm just saying that after an earthquake, tsunami, mudslide, and a nuclear reactor going off prayer is not he best course. Sending money and supplies are more important to Japan right now than a prayer. Prayers work when you need help personally or familial, but in a disaster, it's up to humaniy itself to aid each other. That's how God works, small and powerful ways that make the people perform the miracle, ways that make it seem he was never there.

4) I'll agree with you on that, unfortunately, you do sound like your defending him. I'm not holding it against you though. Truth be told, this will be my reaction to anyone with exorbitant amounts of capital ,just lying around and never planning on spending it because he has everything he could ever want, who decides to send his prayers over the fat stacks of cash he doesn't plan on using.

 

[Manji187]

amm... if you google around for a bit, he "suposedly" donated 1 million dollars... or more...

i dont really think this is relevant, just another aspect of the hate machine, i dont like that kid, i dont like his songs, i dont like what he represents

but this is just ridiculous, how much money did the guy that made the reply donated??

I don't care about Justin Bieber...but I'm curious. What does he represent according to you?

for me?, well, the whole "teen pop idol" theory, the way corporations try to sell his immage to little girls, the common denominator, the broathest range of people, lyrics with no meaning, catchy yet harmless tunes, zombie music, the same as "hanna montana" "the jonas brothers band" "the cheeta girls" and other simmilar groups, no chances are being taken, nothing mind teasing or at least smarth, just the "teen pop idol" generator crap that corps like to push because they know little kids and little girls dont have enough criteria to look beyond the mindless lyrics, ever heard of "Friday"? that song by Rebeca Black?, she didnt wrote the song, the song was written by the corp she went to have an audition, and the damn song is incredibly dumb, in the lyrics, she says NOTHING at all, just an example of what people in the industry will sell!, "they are dumb and stupid, they dont know better, it will sell"

that patronizing attitude is what i hate, and all the "teen pop idols" do nothing but enforce this way of thinking, to represent and place high that way of thinking... i know its their "Job" and such, but hell if you killed wales for a living i would still tell you i dont like everything you stand for.

So if I understand correctly... Justin Bieber to you stands for mindlessness commercialized?

You see...I'm from Europe and I practically don't listen to music on TV. I primarily listen to ambient Drum & Bass (usually containing little to no vocals) on my PC/ MP3 player...so to me it's strange how a 16 year old can evoke such strong emotions from both fans and..."non-fans" alike.

Now I know.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Well thats unnecessary.

Its this kinda thing that makes people think the internet is full of assholes. I'm sure that if someone else like.. um... I dont know. Lets say... John Travolta (I dont know) says they want to send prayers. I wonder how many people would jump on him for that statement.

I felt the same after reading. I don't think he deserved that, for all the guy knows Bieber has already sent money.

Enough reports have gone around stating Bieber already donated at least a million dollars.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Well thats unnecessary.

Its this kinda thing that makes people think the internet is full of assholes. I'm sure that if someone else like.. um... I dont know. Lets say... John Travolta (I dont know) says they want to send prayers. I wonder how many people would jump on him for that statement.

I felt the same after reading. I don't think he deserved that, for all the guy knows Bieber has already sent money.

Enough reports have gone around stating Bieber already donated at least a million dollars.

That has to be more than anything that guy has done. The best part is, I reckon he still has the temerity to claim he's to thank for making Justin donate.

 

[Meowshi]

I don't get it.

What is this link supposed to show us?

that kid has like 25 million dollars, apparently. and there has been no news of him donating any of it to Japan relief, despite the fact that he clearly knows that they need all the help they can get over there.

and the cliche of him "praying" for them is not only BS, but its true that it wont help them in the slightest bit. a million bucks would help a hell of a lot more, and hes good for it

Perfect example of what I'm talking about here.

This guy has not bothered to do any research.

It would take literally three seconds to confirm Bieber's donations, but that is simply too much work for Vykrel. No, he'd rather rush into the thread to pass judgement on how someone else spends their money. It's ridiculous to assume that a rich celebrity with a history of charitable donations is somehow using prayer as a substitute for money. No, I take that back. It's not ridiculous.

It's stupid.

ya im going to go google searching for Bieber's donation history. youre right, i should invest more time into learning every detail of his life. i was just going by what the thread starter has shown us. i dont know what the fuck happens behind the scenes of all these stories

you should try hopping down off your high horse and stop being such a snobby ass

If you're not willing to take three seconds to open up Google, then you shouldn't pretend like you know what you're talking about. And if you ARE going to pretend like you know what you're talking about, then you shouldn't get all upset when you're called on your BS.

You were wrong. Own up to it.

 

[Meowshi]

The difference between saying "Im going to pray for so-and-so" and "im going to keep so-and-so in my thoughts" is that the latter is being considerate, while the former is just people's way of saying "it's terrible, i want to help, but not in a helpful way."

This is the issue I have with prayer. People act righteous because they are praying for something, when in fact it's just a way of seeming morally acceptable while remaining inactive.

What exactly is the difference here? According to you, both things are of no use to the Japanese. The only discernible difference between them is that one involves God. Besides, saying that you're praying for someone, is also a way of saying that you're in their thoughts. Obviously. In actuality, people are just as capable of going, "You are in my thoughts", as a way of feeling morally acceptable while remaining inactive. You are being so disingenuous with this argument that it's embarrassing. You're only problem is that the former group is religious, period.

Prayer is actually people's way of saying, "I want to help, but there's nothing that I can personally do to ease your suffering." It does not mean, "I'm not going to give money" or "I don't plan on doing anything." It just means, "I accept that whatever I do isn't going to help much", which is absolutely true. I look at it this way: Even if you give 100 dollars to charity, it's not really going to have a noticeable affect on peoples' suffering. It's completely out of the hands of one person to truly make a difference. It doesn't mean that you're not going to send the money, it just means that you believe God can do more than any one of us can.

If there was a God, why wouldn't he just stop the earthquakes and tsunamis? And if he caused them, why pray to him? He's obviously a dick. Or does he just not care?

This is the issue I have with prayer. People act righteous because they are praying for something, when in fact it's just a way of seeming morally acceptable while remaining inactive.

It's only anti-theistic because people use theism to excuse laziness and apathy.

You're whole post is full of unnecessary assumptions. You assume that anyone praying is simply doing it as a means of avoiding donations, despite the fact that religious organizations are some of the most charitable groups in the world. You assume that people praying are apathetic, despite that fact that they genuinely believe in God, and therefore genuinely believe that they are helping. What you said is anti-theistic because you automatically assume the worst about someone just because they believe in a deity, and no amount of excuses is going to change that. It's no different from any other sort of discrimination, and is in really poor taste when you're doing it to someone only worried about the suffering in Japan.

Oh, and by the way: "If God exists, why do the bad things happen?!" is perhaps one of the laziest theological arguments a person can make.

 

[Kortney]

"DONATE YOUR MONEY! PRAYER DOES NOTHING!" Is nothing short of obnoxious. If someone said "my thoughts are with the people who are suffering in Japan" nobody would comment, would they? There was a lot of people saying that in the Escapist thread about the Japanese disaster and no one commented with "DONATE MONEY THOUGHTS ARE USELESS!". It is anti-theism.

The difference between saying "Im going to pray for so-and-so" and "im going to keep so-and-so in my thoughts" is that the latter is being considerate, while the former is just people's way of saying "it's terrible, i want to help, but not in a helpful way." The whole idea is that they think they're helping and they put on a facade of helpfulness, when in fact they've done absolutely nothing to help.

If there was a God, why wouldn't he just stop the earthquakes and tsunamis? And if he caused them, why pray to him? He's obviously a dick. Or does he just not care?

This is the issue I have with prayer. People act righteous because they are praying for something, when in fact it's just a way of seeming morally acceptable while remaining inactive

To prove this you would have to talk to every person who says "I am praying for ____" and ask if they have donated. Otherwise you are generalising. Most the religious people I know have prayed and donated to Japan. Just because someone says they are praying for a place does not mean that they are not sending financial aid. My Mosque has donated $15,000.

 

[Faladorian]

What exactly is the difference here? According to you, both things are of no use to the Japanese. The only discernible difference between them is that one involves God.

Exactly, and instead of admitting that they can do nothing, they pin it on a deity and say "he'll do it for me, don't worry about it."

Besides, saying that you're praying for someone, is also a way of saying that you're in their thoughts. Obviously. In actuality, people are just as capable of going, "You are in my thoughts", as a way of feeling morally acceptable while remaining inactive. You are being so disingenuous with this argument that it's embarrassing. You're only problem is that the former group is religious, period.

Oh yeah religion ONLY brings out the bad in people that's exactly what I'm saying... No. The point is, people who pray are acting like they are doing something when in reality, they are not.

Prayer is actually people's way of saying, "I want to help, but there's nothing that I can personally do to ease your suffering." It does not mean, "I'm not going to give money" or "I don't plan on doing anything." It just means, "I accept that whatever I do isn't going to help much", which is absolutely true. I look at it this way: Even if you give 100 dollars to charity, it's not really going to have a noticeable affect on peoples' suffering. It's completely out of the hands of one person to truly make a difference. It doesn't mean that you're not going to send the money, it just means that you believe God can do more than any one of us can.

Again, if he didn't bother to stop the disaster in the first place, what makes anyone think he would care to clean up the mess?

You're whole post is full of unnecessary assumptions. You assume that anyone praying is simply doing it as a means of avoiding donations, despite the fact that religious organizations are some of the most charitable groups in the world. You assume that people praying are apathetic, despite that fact that they genuinely believe in God, and therefore genuinely believe that they are helping. What you said is anti-theistic because you automatically assume the worst about someone just because they believe in a deity, and no amount of excuses is going to change that. It's no different from any other sort of discrimination, and is in really poor taste when you're doing it to someone only worried about the suffering in Japan.

Yeah, I also realize that non-religious charities also exist, and don't have a bias based on a divine doctrine. If you're not willing to help somebody you disagree with, that doesn't make you a good person at all. This would be true of any dogma, not just religion vs religion. If there was an atheist charity that refused to help people who believe in the nativity, I would object to that, regardless of my atheism.

Oh, and by the way: "If God exists, why do the bad things happen?!" is perhaps one of the laziest theological arguments a person can make.

The only reason it's brought up so much is because nobody can answer it. Epicurus was a smart guy, and his riddle stumps nearly everyone I know who believes in a deity. So no, it isn't lazy, it's repeatedly effective.