Big Jiggly Boobs in Games... is it really worth all the QQing?

[Palademon]

if a game features large breasted woman as a selling point like the LARA croft or doa beach vollyball games, i wont buy it.

Seriously, what is people's problem with spelling that?

OP: Little do they know, vulnerable girls sell well as sex symbols in Japan...

I find it annoying that being un-overly physically attractive means she can't be a confident woman. Personality wise, she's a good role model. Being a weak character will only bring up an argument of "Not all women are weak and vulnerable. Games are becoming sexist."

 

[Monkfish Acc.]

Because big boobs are best boobs...

You sure about that?

Big boobs are the most painful boobs. And they look silly. And they are impractical.
[small]Christ look at the fucking size of those things[/small]

Anyway, on topic, I reckon Lara is better with smaller breasts. I mean, she's supposed to be an athletic gymnast, isn't she? All that bendy shit burns a lot of fat.
Big boobs are okay, I guess, if they are an integral part of the character. But they rarely are.
Nobody ever tosses on oversized knockers for actual characterisation or whatever. It's always mindless sex-appeal.

If, say, a lady was kind of an arrogant *****, or perhaps a little nervous or something, big boobs would be a part of that character. Arrogant ***** because massive bust. Nervous because of constant leering. Lara, and other action girls, don't need large funbags at all.
It's actually quite mystifying, even. Jumping around like hyperactive monkeys and still having enough bodyfat for knockers bigger than their heads. That doesn't make any sort of sense.

 

[hurfdurp]

I dunno, feels weird to tamper with something that is somehow so pivotal to the character . That's how people remember her, she was that character with the large breasts. Since she's already an established character, I wouldn't really mind keeping her dated like that. Maybe designer's should just be more conscientious when making new characters if it is such a problem (or start focusing more the the jiggle physics of testicles )?

 

[HyenaThePirate]

You know what's a far bigger concern than Lara Croft's new cup size? The trend of prequels in gaming. It's this new wonderland where devs cash in on old properties without having to honor any of their established bits because hey, it totally happened before that! Nevermind that the play mechanics are now obviously much more advanced, rendering the older (aka more recent...) game completely nonsensical.

I fucking hate executives.

good point...

 

[ArchAngelKira]

Its frusterating if they threw they're whole brain in their chest. So sometimes flat is better

 

[Flying-Emu]

She was still this super smart, super savvy, super kick ass first true super heroine of video games that could turn you on as quickly as she could snap your neck.

The fact that you say this invalidates the rest of your argument.

Samus Aran was this heroine you speak of, sorry. Or hell, even Chun Li, the First Lady of Fighting.

I'm sorry but neither one of those count. Most didn't even know Samus was a woman unless they played through the whole game, and her being a woman didn't change anything. Chun Li isn't a heroine because there is NO STORY IN FIGHTING GAMES, i.e. no opportunity to be a HEROINE. He said heroine not character. Lara was not just a woman in a game, her being a woman was important in the game. She was the first Heroine.

So Croft was the first MAINSTREAM heroine.

Samus was still first. Just because you only knew this if you beat the game, or hey, read the manual, doesn't change history.

 

[Taunta]

They're asserting that it is a trend in games to have air-headed female characters whose only purpose in the game is to have large breasts and be a sex object. One characteristic does not imply the other, rather they both are present.

Then why is Lara Croft often named? She is characterised as a very well educated and self reliant person. Why do people suddenly like the character a lot more when she has a new model with smaller tits and a stupid "look at my attitude" face that she learned in modelling school, called blue steel or whatever.

Because it didn't make a lot of sense for her to have large breasts in the first place. She's supposed to be athletic and acrobatic while running around in minimal clothing. The women I know with large breasts ("large" in this case being D and bigger, but sometimes C) have trouble running without a sports bra, much less rolling, jumping, escaping tomb traps, etc. And judging by her model, she is most definitely not wearing a sports bra. Her breasts weren't an integral part of her character, so really the only reason for her to have large breasts was for sex appeal. Which is fine, I guess, because "sex sells" but now the game designers want a more realistic approach I guess.

I dunno, feels weird to tamper with something that is somehow so pivotal to the character

Large breasts are sometimes pivotal to the character, but not in Lara's case. That'd be like saying Link's penis size was a major character development point in Ocarina of Time. (Someone is going to argue about how it is now...)

 

[BehattedWanderer]

When it's a pair of triple D's bouncing around in what appears to be some tied up spaghetti, then it's just tirelessly useless. A girl packing a decent pair in like a medium shirt, with a jacket over? That would be tasteful. Someone please tell me when a pub gets around to that, alright?

 

[Anarchemitis]

When people say "jiggle physics", this is what I think of, because this is what they're talking about. Even if they don't know it.
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Pretty girls in everything on computers are made of science and syntax. Get over yourself.
"]http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w/images/b/be/Jigglebone.png[/img_inline]

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Because it didn't make a lot of sense for her to have large breasts in the first place. She's supposed to be athletic and acrobatic while running around in minimal clothing. The women I know with large breasts ("large" in this case being D and bigger, but sometimes C) have trouble running without a sports bra, much less rolling, jumping, escaping tomb traps, etc. And judging by her model, she is most definitely not wearing a sports bra. Her breasts weren't an integral part of her character, so really the only reason for her to have large breasts was for sex appeal. Which is fine, I guess, because "sex sells" but now the game designers want a more realistic approach I guess.

That isn't the point you were arguing. We were talking about intelligence and being a sex object. The intelligence point is absurd in my opinion. I find that using large breasts as a characterisation tool in fiction for denoting lack of intelligence to be a lazy cliche and offensive. The breast size is also coming up as an issue of what different people find attractive. Not that big tits means sex means more sales, which is a bit of a leap of intuition.

Realism is a different thing. Games like this are rarely realistic to that degree. In fact Tomb Raider is normally on the more realistic end of the spectrum for this sort of game. Appearance of realism is normally a different sort of thing and it can be instructive to see what unrealistic things people choose to ignore and which they choose to complain about.

But maybe Lara Croft should be like an Amazon warrior who chooses to burn her breasts with an iron in order to gain strength. That would be a more interesting character development than a reboot showing a more photo realistic model with a muddy face.

 

[hurfdurp]

They're asserting that it is a trend in games to have air-headed female characters whose only purpose in the game is to have large breasts and be a sex object. One characteristic does not imply the other, rather they both are present.

Then why is Lara Croft often named? She is characterised as a very well educated and self reliant person. Why do people suddenly like the character a lot more when she has a new model with smaller tits and a stupid "look at my attitude" face that she learned in modelling school, called blue steel or whatever.

Because it didn't make a lot of sense for her to have large breasts in the first place. She's supposed to be athletic and acrobatic while running around in minimal clothing. The women I know with large breasts ("large" in this case being D and bigger, but sometimes C) have trouble running without a sports bra, much less rolling, jumping, escaping tomb traps, etc. And judging by her model, she is most definitely not wearing a sports bra. Her breasts weren't an integral part of her character, so really the only reason for her to have large breasts was for sex appeal. Which is fine, I guess, because "sex sells" but now the game designers want a more realistic approach I guess.

I dunno, feels weird to tamper with something that is somehow so pivotal to the character

Large breasts are sometimes pivotal to the character, but not in Lara's case. That'd be like saying Link's penis size was a major character development point in Ocarina of Time. (Someone is going to argue about how it is now...)

Pivotal in the sense that it is a highly recognizable feature of hers, she is pretty well known for that characteristic. If Link's penis got any bigger, he'd have to wear a full on dress.

 

[Magicman10893]

Two things: One, Lara's breasts are a MAJOR part of her character design. That is a distinguishing figure that many people recognize when someone says her name. By taking them away, it would be like Link's memorable green outfit suddenly becoming bright orange and red power armor while still featuring magic and swords, or Superman suddenly changing his outfit to be green and black and have his symbol change from the "S" to "SM" for SuperMan. That kind of fucks with already established canon. Now, I get the impression that she got breast implants if this game is a prequel and she has "smaller" (and I say smaller as in comparison to her old, gigantic ones) breasts. And if that is indeed the case, I want to be quoted saying, "Fucking called it!"

Two, why does everyone insist that games have to have rich characters and deep story lines? Maybe I just want to play a game for you know, GAME play? I know we want video games to be accepted by the media as a valid art form, but that doesn't mean that EVERY game has to have deeper meaning. Games are a form of entertainment, and that means that some examples are purely entertainment. Here's a good example: Film is widely considered art, but would you call The Expendables art? Would you call hardcore pornography art? Those are still films, yet they have no real artistic value considering any story is just used as a vehicle to connect gratuitous violence/sex scenes to one another. Characters are barely fleshed out and aren't remotely able to relate to. How many among us are in excellent physical shape to compare to the actors in either, and not many of us are graced enough to compare to pornstars. Those are both just ENTERTAINMENT.

This is why I don't like Extra Credit, they tend to try and give every game a deeper meaning or some artistic bull. Saying that Missle Command is an amazing narrative. I never considered Missle Command as anything other than a simple arcade game. They repeatedly said that it brings a moral quandary to the mix by weighing the importance of trying to save every city or just protect one; deciding to protect your military installation or your city. I never even remotely considered that. And then the icing on the bullshit cake was when they talked about how at the end it just says, "The End" which symbolizes that there are no winners in nuclear wars. Really, that is their way of keeping kids attracted to the game because, it doesn't have an end, you continuously pump quarters in the machine.

I feel like I've gotten off track. To get back to video games, maybe I just want a game that blatantly features violence and sexuality as its selling points. Maybe I just want to be entertained rather than immerse myself in a deep story. Maybe I just want to stare at gigantic pixelated breasts for a few hours for a form of sexual gratification. Maybe I just want to play a game where you slaughter your enemies with a variety of vicious and grisly moves. Does that make me immature? By the looks of everyone's opinions on here, I guess that does.

 

[Nouw]

Big Is Good.

No it's not, I'd rather have more attractive ones than a pair that fill the entire screen or just make me feel sick...

A reason why I like some girls and not others...

 

[smithy_2045]

Large breasts are overrated.

 

[Brad Shepard]

I think its good within reason. if the character is busty as a character trait then it's fine (one storyline I wrote had a character who would always cover her breasts because they got in the way of combat but under extreme conditions would use them as a distraction. sort of my de-construction of over-sexed characters) but if EVERY girl in the game is overly busty that it becomes ridicules and insulting (DOA extreme) then it is pointless and juvenile unless the game is self-aware.

You know now that I think about it PSG doesnt have stupid bouncy boobs(like a bunch of anime out there), its really a nice change of pace.

The boobs look sexy but arent outrageously big or stupid.

I want to know how this got so popular so fast... My girlfirend LOVES this show, but i dont get a lick of it.

 

[Anomynous 167]

So if your game is Tits or Alive: Boobs Volleyball, then by all means, stock the roster with porn stars, but honestly, when was the last time you saw a female protagonist in a serious game that wasn't thin, and had small breasts?

Now this is a toughy.

Mainly because it is hard to picture a woman with neither of those traits. Since generally when one isn't thin they are fat. And fat people generally pack a lot of (For lack of a less crude scientific sounding word) meat. And that "meat" isn't always centered around the belly.

For those reasons in my second paragraph that there has never been a Video Game protagonist (Man or Woman), who is both fat, and lacks a plump chest.

 

[Jenova65]

the beautiful, round, over the shoulder boulder holders that the fairer sex taunts us with incessantly.

They taunt us with bras?

*Flings a bag of bras at Miracle...............*
Now you're scared, lol!
OT - Breasts really don't bother me, I'm a woman, I look down and............. boobs. Not sure why this is an issue on either side, tbh!

 

[Roxor]

I don't get it. Why all the fuss?

I can understand being bugged about such a design choice from a purely logical perspective of it not making sense for what the character does, but beyond that that little nagging at the back of your mind, I just don't see why anyone needs to kick up a stink about it one way or another.