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katsabas

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Phil Harrison. The douche did not beta test the PS3.
Virtual Boy.
The fact that PS3 owners are impatient.
Exclusives.
PS3 and 360: no backwards compatibility.
360 controllers
That's what I got so far.
 

SuperFelix

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The Wii Remote - Nunchuck combination, as there are too few buttons meaning you have to move the controller, which would be fine if many of the games didn't require around 10 different combinations of moving and pressing buttons, as this can be confusing and give you tennis elbow.
 

wgreer25

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I would say the PS3 in general. Now before the hate war starts, let me explain. I will start off by saying that I have a PS3 and enjoy it, but it is built on much failure.

I think the BluRay was a mistake. Microsoft won the movie war by getting in bed with Netflix. Sure they backed the wrong format (HD DVD), but they won in the end by getting with the smartest possible format there is, streaming.

The PS3 controler. For fraks sake, they need to update that damn thing (this is a personal preference, I know)

All of the failure surrounding their release of the PS3. First off, they should have never allowed Microsoft to beat them to market (even though MS did it by cutting corners and having a faulty console). Second, the release itself was a debocle including the way too heafty price tag and they extremely limited number of consoles.

No backwards compatibility (I think only one model had it). Mine doesn't have it, and I am pissed.

I think we can all agree that the PS2 is the king of consoles. Sony was not smart enough to keep up with what their competition was doing, or just expected the success of the PS2 to just roll over into the PS3. It didn't, they allowed MS to catch up, which for the gaming industry as a whole is not a bad thing. It is a bad thing for Sony though. Peronsally, I think they were putting way too much stock into their brand name while their competition had already been in market for a year.

The PS3 is slowly catching up, but is has taken way too long to get there. I still say the smartest thing Sony could do would be to make all PS3's backwards compatible and stop production of the PS2. The releaved PS2 factory assets could be retasked to make the PS3 and as such, you could probably have a price drop.
 

wgreer25

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katsabas said:
Phil Harrison. The douche did not beta test the PS3.
Virtual Boy.
The fact that PS3 owners are impatient.
Exclusives.
PS3 and 360: no backwards compatibility.
360 controllers
That's what I got so far.
The 360 has backwards compatibility with the vast majority of original Xbox games. All of my original Xbox games work just fine in my 360.

My PS3 is another story... a sad one.
 

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oliveira8 said:
ward. said:
oliveira8 said:
The PS3 is one big mistake..har har har. But really I think Blu-Ray was a pointless feature. The Ps2 had the DvD player feature when DvD's themselves were starting to make a name for themselves, so the public saw a good deal, get a DvD player to replace their VHS player and a console at the same time! Ps3 comes with Blu-ray and most people go "uh?" (Also it was launched when there was a format war between Blu Ray and HD DvD. Only recently Blu Ray won the war.) Maybe in a couple of years it will change.
You do know sony won the format war because of the blu-ray capabilities of the PS3 don't you?
Yes..and took them two years to win it too, two years they spent doing no profit. And so far the Blu-Ray didn't make the PS3 sell more. As someone said a Blu-Ray player is much cheaper than a PS3.
Two years of no profit is a great trade off for a 100% market share of the high end home entertainment market and many people brought the ps3 as a cheap way to get the bluray player early.
It will be even more worthwhile once the recession passes/ india begins it's social upgrade phase.

Secondly you don't buy it just because it has a blu ray player, at best you but it because blu-ray equals better games. Here's me citing the upcoming GOW3 as an example.
 

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No mouse support for the most part. Mouse are a far superior control system than the thumb sticks.

an adapted WASD style controller with mouse support would be ideal. Especially for FPS
This. Thumb sticks feel so awkward compared to mouse and keyboard.

It doesn't bother me that much, I love my 360, but I hate the lack of precise aiming.
 

oliveira8

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ward. said:
oliveira8 said:
ward. said:
oliveira8 said:
The PS3 is one big mistake..har har har. But really I think Blu-Ray was a pointless feature. The Ps2 had the DvD player feature when DvD's themselves were starting to make a name for themselves, so the public saw a good deal, get a DvD player to replace their VHS player and a console at the same time! Ps3 comes with Blu-ray and most people go "uh?" (Also it was launched when there was a format war between Blu Ray and HD DvD. Only recently Blu Ray won the war.) Maybe in a couple of years it will change.
You do know sony won the format war because of the blu-ray capabilities of the PS3 don't you?
Yes..and took them two years to win it too, two years they spent doing no profit. And so far the Blu-Ray didn't make the PS3 sell more. As someone said a Blu-Ray player is much cheaper than a PS3.
Two years of no profit is a great trade off for a 100% market share of the high end home entertainment market and many people brought the ps3 as a cheap way to get the bluray player early.
It will be even more worthwhile once the recession passes/ india begins it's social upgrade phase.

Secondly you don't buy it just because it has a blu ray player, at best you but it because blu-ray equals better games. Here's me citing the upcoming GOW3 as an example.
Not when they finally win the format war were all happy then looked at the TV and saw "Global recession" and then they all went "ah fuck...". It will take some time till Sony gets up again, they released their super console on the worst time possible. And then you this years 2009 exclusive line up of last hope that ithe PS3 will sell at least half of what the PS2 sold.
 

ward.

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oliveira8 said:
Not when they finally win the format war were all happy then looked at the TV and saw "Global recession" and then they all went "ah fuck...". It will take some time till Sony gets up again, they released their super console on the worst time possible.
Especially when a recessions coming up, trying to sell the more expensive product during one would have cost them not only the war but a shit-ton of money as well.

Ending the game before cost became an issue is one of the smartest things sony as ever done.

oliveira8 said:
And then you this years 2009 exclusive line up of last hope that the PS3 will sell at least half of what the PS2 sold.
Oh hell, the wii hasn't sold half as many units as the ps2 did and still is selling.

The wii and xbox360 combined are only just there.
 

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Ridergurl10 said:
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The tiny PC elitist inside me wants to say "existing". I think the N64 controllers and the weird middle handle that was jutting strangely to make 3 handles for people with 2 hands.
I find this really funny, because I learned to play on the N64 and for years it was all I played. . . it took me soooo long to adjust to the "normal" 2 handle controllers. I still miss that 3rd handle . . . :(
The N64 controller is my favourite, although the 360 pad is a close second!
 

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I'm gonna be tiresome and agree with MedicHeavy, in my feeling that the PS3 could have been so much more successful if they hadn't hung the millstone of Blu Ray upon it.

Even for a kid who's offered a console for Xmas, unless they're a raving Sony fan, they're gonna get offered 'Do you want the Wii and a few games, or the 360 and a few games, or the PS3 and, oh we can't afford to buy anything else, if you go for the PS3.'
Actually, the blu-ray is really the only thing that's been keeping the PS3 afloat in the console war. The initial cost of the PS3 wasn't inflated by the blu-ray player so much as it was by the Cell processor and the "emotion engine (ps2 backwards compatibility).

The cell processor is quite an expensive processor peice of hardware, I don't think anyone ever expected it to make its way into a gaming console. That's why when sales were going bad those were the first 2 things they cut. The new PS3s are using a different, less expensive version, of the cell processor from what I understand (though the processor is still a powerhouse). And the emotion engine has been removed entirely for 2 reasons. One they are still making money off of ps2 sales, and two, it's also an expensive peice of hardware. It's basically a second processor.
 

batosai33

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I dont think blu-ray was such a bad thing for the ps3, mainly because they wanted a reason to buy the system. the wii was the console for people who wanted innovative (and with that buggy and overused) controls. the 360 had at least year in the market over the ps3 and was the graphics focused console. they didnt have the R&D time to out innovate the wii and the 360 was pushing DVDs to their limit. ps3 had to have a bigger format if they wanted to make it worth people's trouble to wait a year over the 360 and to make their own would be pointless and costly. so they went with blu-ray because it is bigger than DVDs (HD included) and a format that was in use (even if it was in competition with hddvd)
 

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*The fact that the PS3 doesn't even come w/ a HDMI cable.

*And that early adopters who paid $600 were given a crappy SixAxis because Sony was too cheap & greedy to settle w/ Immersion; despite the obv fact that they infringed (they still lost the suit). So early adopters were rewarded w/ having to spend $50 more down the line to get a Dual Shock 3 which SHOULD have been included in the first place.

*MS's hubris in thinking they had the engineering skill to properly create & certify the Xenos GPU. Causing the RRoD on everyone who bought a pre-HDMI system. (they contracted ATi to fix the heat distribution & make it more efficient while shrinking it. & have it properly pass certification. For the Falcon model)

*Sony thinking UMD was a good idea. Charging $20 for a sub-SD movie that can only be played on a PSP.

*Sony's PSN Home service