Biggest plot holes

[Gizmo1990]

I went to see The Hobbit last night (Loved it!) and seeing the eagles made me think of the Lord of the Rings plot hole (Why they did not just catch a ride on them to Mordor) but it got me and my friends thinking on what was the biggest/ worst plot hole.

For me it is Harry Potter. Voldemort spends about 15-16 years dead and DUMBledor spends the whole time NOT looking for his soul things (cannot remember the stupid name for them) and destroying them, he does not spend the time actually teaching Harry any usefull or powerfull magic, he does not even bother telling Harry about them until a year after Voldemort returns, he spends the whole time sitting on his arse doing NOTHING!

EDIT: I accept that I was wrong about the Lord of the Rings. So please do not quote me explaining why I am wrong. I have already had 10 people do so

 

[SomeLameStuff]

That's not really a plothole. If you take another look, Dumbledore doesn't learn of the existance of the Horcruxes until AFTER Chamber of Secrets, after Harry turns the diary Horcrux over to him.

The only one coming to mind right now is probably when Gordon sends every cop into the sewers in Rises. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?!

 

[HardkorSB]

There's a lot of them in a lot of movies but the most recent one was in The Dark Knight Rises:

Why does Batman, after 8 years of not training, decides to take on Bane, the buffest guy in town, in a fist fight? Doesn't he have a stun gun or something like that? Pretty sure he could find something in that utility belt of his.
Was it because it would be a very short movie if he would just taze Bane?
Also, how did Bane know where Batman's armory is?

 

[Gizmo1990]

That's not really a plothole. If you take another look, Dumbledore doesn't learn of the existance of the Horcruxes until AFTER Chamber of Secrets, after Harry turns the diary Horcrux over to him.

The only one coming to mind right now is probably when Gordon sends every cop into the sewers in Rises. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?!

If he only lernt after Chamber of Secrets then fair enough. I did not know that. However he did know about the prophesy. He knew what Voldermort was capable of and he knew that Harry would have to face him. You would think he would actually teach him some magic that would actually help him. Plus that raises more issues.

Dumbledore did not know about the Horcruxes, ok, but in the years he spent fighting him did he never try to kill Voldermort? If he did not then he was willing to let countless people die for his principals, making him a selfish person. If he did and found that Voldermort could not be killed, Dumbledore is a smart guy. There can only be a few ways to make yourself immortal. Surly he could have worked it out. Also how the hell did I forget about the DKR. That thing is riddled with plot holes.

 

[Hazy992]

Also, how did Bane know where Batman's armory is?

I'm guessing Miranda Tate told him.

OT: One thing that always bothered me about The Dark Knight was what Mayor Garcia said to Harvey Dent:

''They get anything back on you, those criminals will be back on the streets...''

Am I just taking this quote the wrong way? Because it sounds to me like he's saying if they find out Dent's done anything illegal then they'll be released. Don't think the justice system works that way does it?

I'm guessing I've just interpreted it wrong so please correct me if I have.

 

[Slenn]

There's a lot of them in a lot of movies but the most recent one was in The Dark Knight Rises:

Why does Batman, after 8 years of not training, decides to take on Bane, the buffest guy in town, in a fist fight? Doesn't he have a stun gun or something like that? Pretty sure he could find something in that utility belt of his.
Was it because it would be a very short movie if he would just taze Bane?
Also, how did Bane know where Batman's armory is?

Big Movie Bob slightly addresses this in his Big Picture episode called "Holy Spoilers!" Se says that Bane breaking Batman is supposed to be going along with the comics, in the sense that Bane is the only Batman villain in the comics to shatter Batman's bones. However you could additionally argue that even with that in play, Batman would have to screw up with his utility belt or something in order to follow the comics.

 

[HardkorSB]

Big Movie Bob slightly addresses this in his Big Picture episode called "Holy Spoilers!" Se says that Bane breaking Batman is supposed to be going along with the comics, in the sense that Bane is the only Batman villain in the comics to shatter Batman's bones. However you could additionally argue that even with that in play, Batman would have to screw up with his utility belt or something in order to follow the comics.

I know, I had the comic when I was younger.
Still, this was the case of Batman acting stupid for the sake of moving the plot forward. It would have been a short movie if he would use a taser gun.

 

[King Billi]

There's a certain theme they wanted to get across with The Dark Knight Rises and certain plot points were required to bring it about... certainly it could all have been avoided if the characters had made better decisions but that kind of complaint can be made of any story, the protagonist could nearly always have made a better decision.

Personally the story and moral in the Dark Knight rises was strong enough for me to ignore the inconsistances in its plot since the strength in the characters is what ultimately made it worthwhile to me.


OT: Why did Batman go out of his way to save the Joker in order to prove his point about not killing and then kill Harvey Dent anyway?

 

[Rawne1980]

I'm guessing Miranda Tate told him.

OT: One thing that always bothered me about The Dark Knight was what Mayor Garcia said to Harvey Dent:

''They get anything back on you, those criminals will be back on the streets...''

Am I just taking this quote the wrong way? Because it sounds to me like he's saying if they find out Dent's done anything illegal then they'll be released. Don't think the justice system works that way does it?

I'm guessing I've just interpreted it wrong so please correct me if I have.

Well, technically you are not wrong.

If Dent was found to have committed illegal acts, it would be a mistrial and the verdict overturned.

It would probably go to retrial unless they have the same laws as the UK (I don't know much about American law), in the UK you can't be tried for the same crime twice unless new evidence has come to light. If no new evidence is found and, due to Dent being seen as a criminal, the verdict is oveturned then they would be released.

As it's the movies and reality can be "warped" they can do almost anything and excuse it with *insert random reason here*.

 

[Calibanbutcher]

I went to see The Hobbit last night (Loved it!) and seeing the eagles made me think of the Lord of the Rings plot hole (Why they did not just catch a ride on them to Mordor) but it got me and my friends thinking on what was the biggest/ worst plot hole.

For me it is Harry Potter. Voldemort spends about 15-16 years dead and DUMBledor spends the whole time NOT looking for his soul things (cannot remember the stupid name for them) and destroying them, he does not spend the time actually teaching Harry any usefull or powerfull magic, he does not even bother telling Harry about them until a year after Voldemort returns, he spends the whole time sitting on his arse doing NOTHING!

LOTR:
They kinda needed to stay hidden.
From a giant eye in a very high tower.
A giant eye which also commanded a group of incredibly powerful Nazgul, who, incidentally, also had flying mounts who could incapacitate almost anyone within hearing range by simply screeching at them.
Now, the eagles were shown to be capable of downing said flying-screech-beasts, but not whilst also carrying someone.
Plus, let's not forget that the eyes power is so strong, that simply being looked at is dangerous.

So why in Galadriel's name would you choose to ride a flying beast over the enemies territory?
You would be spotted almost immediately upon crossing the border and assaulted by a group of immortal spirits whose only wish is to see you broken and destroyed.
It seems safer to me to simply walk into mordor.

 

[King Billi]

I went to see The Hobbit last night (Loved it!) and seeing the eagles made me think of the Lord of the Rings plot hole (Why they did not just catch a ride on them to Mordor) but it got me and my friends thinking on what was the biggest/ worst plot hole.

For me it is Harry Potter. Voldemort spends about 15-16 years dead and DUMBledor spends the whole time NOT looking for his soul things (cannot remember the stupid name for them) and destroying them, he does not spend the time actually teaching Harry any usefull or powerfull magic, he does not even bother telling Harry about them until a year after Voldemort returns, he spends the whole time sitting on his arse doing NOTHING!

LOTR:
They kinda needed to stay hidden.
From a giant eye in a very high tower.
A giant eye which also commanded a group of incredibly powerful Nazgul, who, incidentally, also had flying mounts who could incapacitate almost anyone within hearing range by simply screeching at them.
Now, the eagles were shown to be capable of downing said flying-screech-beasts, but not whilst also carrying someone.
Plus, let's not forget that the eyes power is so strong, that simply being looked at is dangerous.

So why in Galadriel's name would you choose to ride a flying beast over the enemies territory?
You would be spotted almost immediately upon crossing the border and assaulted by a group of immortal spirits whose only wish is to see you broken and destroyed.
It seems safer to me to simply walk into mordor.

Good on you mate.

Your logic is unassailiable.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Not so much a "plot hole" as an extremely aggravating story element that has irritated me for years. The Sixth Sense, often described as Shyamalan's only "good" movie. Balls to that, I say, it's terrible too.

So you're a little girl.

You have a step mother. Your step mother doesn't like you. You're aware of this.

You begin to grow suspicious that your step mother is slowly poisoning you. "Keeping you sick", in your father's parlance. She's putting it in your food.

Despite your young age, you have the foresight and wherewithal to hide a video camera that catches your step mother in the act of poisoning your food. Utterly damning evidence.

Once in possession of said evidence, you continue eating the poisoned food until you die, at which point your ghost beseeches some tow headed little kid to help you expose your stepmother.

It's cool though. There was a twist ending to distract you from how nonsensical and leaden-paced the film was.

 

[DoPo]

It seems safer to me to simply walk into mordor.

Sorry, it was too perfect to pass up

That's not really a plothole. If you take another look, Dumbledore doesn't learn of the existance of the Horcruxes until AFTER Chamber of Secrets, after Harry turns the diary Horcrux over to him.

The only one coming to mind right now is probably when Gordon sends every cop into the sewers in Rises. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?!

If he only lernt after Chamber of Secrets then fair enough. I did not know that.

Yes, there was only a single person who knows about Voldemort and horcruxes - that professor guy, who gave him the information in the first place.

However he did know about the prophesy.

A prophecy[footnote]ROFL - as I was typing the word "prophecy" there, I received an email from GameFly (and my email client popped it up) and the title was "The Prophecy Has Foretold of Great Savings on PC Games!". I found that coincidence absolutely hilarious[/footnote] which doesn't have to come true at all. Also, a prophecy that says that while only one of them can survive. And since Dumbledore believes Voldy is dead, why should he take action for something that won't be happening or even has already happened?

Dumbledore did not know about the Horcruxes, ok, but in the years he spent fighting him did he never try to kill Voldermort? If he did not then he was willing to let countless people die for his principals, making him a selfish person.

Dafuq does this mean? Dude, you're like...totally off the rails here. First of all, why would Dumbledore try to outright kill Voldy when there are hundreds, if not thousands, of spells that can render him harmless (and thus saving those dying people) without the need to kill? Heck, there is very little magic that does kill at all. And it tends to not be quite as effective as the other solutions. All you need is to knock off his wand and BAM, done. Or otherwise make him unable to use magic.

OK, second, assuming Dumbledore, or anybody else, did try to kill Voldy, why do you think they succeeded? There is only one kill spell, which I doubt many would use. And that spell fires a projectile that can apparently be dodged. There are other spells that can harm but are not really that effectual in killing, I'd assume, especially if the other party can just heal. There is always just spell protection. And we know that wizards have the stupid tendency of not using non-magic, so nobody even brought a gun. Or a bow. Or even a slingshot.

Seriously, the decision to not kill him seems to be the better one, as non-lethal magic seems both easier and more effective.

 

[deathbydeath]

Mass Effect 2 is the world's worst plot hole. Moving on, the premise of Source Code never made any sense. It was an interesting concept, but shot itself in the foot with its own science.

 

[Dalisclock]

There's a lot of them in a lot of movies but the most recent one was in The Dark Knight Rises:

Why does Batman, after 8 years of not training, decides to take on Bane, the buffest guy in town, in a fist fight? Doesn't he have a stun gun or something like that? Pretty sure he could find something in that utility belt of his.
Was it because it would be a very short movie if he would just taze Bane?
Also, how did Bane know where Batman's armory is?

Anything in the Dark Knight rises invovling the fusion reactor. Among the biggest of these is the whole scheme to get bruce to build an experimental fusion reactor(which doesn't seem to power anything or have any visible means of support, it's just a big ball) so bane can turn it into a fusion bomb. One, reactors don't work that way and two, while no one has yet built a workable fusion reactor, we've had fusion bombs since the 1970's. It would have been a lot easier for bane to just steal or buy one of those from say....russia then the whole thing they went with.

The only way it works is that now bruce now has the guilt of making the weapon which will destroy Gotham, so I'll willing to overlook it.

 

[Alex Graves]

I went to see The Hobbit last night (Loved it!) and seeing the eagles made me think of the Lord of the Rings plot hole (Why they did not just catch a ride on them to Mordor) but it got me and my friends thinking on what was the biggest/ worst plot hole.

For me it is Harry Potter. Voldemort spends about 15-16 years dead and DUMBledor spends the whole time NOT looking for his soul things (cannot remember the stupid name for them) and destroying them, he does not spend the time actually teaching Harry any usefull or powerfull magic, he does not even bother telling Harry about them until a year after Voldemort returns, he spends the whole time sitting on his arse doing NOTHING!

LOTR:
They kinda needed to stay hidden.
From a giant eye in a very high tower.
A giant eye which also commanded a group of incredibly powerful Nazgul, who, incidentally, also had flying mounts who could incapacitate almost anyone within hearing range by simply screeching at them.
Now, the eagles were shown to be capable of downing said flying-screech-beasts, but not whilst also carrying someone.
Plus, let's not forget that the eyes power is so strong, that simply being looked at is dangerous.

So why in Galadriel's name would you choose to ride a flying beast over the enemies territory?
You would be spotted almost immediately upon crossing the border and assaulted by a group of immortal spirits whose only wish is to see you broken and destroyed.
It seems safer to me to simply walk into mordor.

They might have at least been able to fly the eagles to the white castle (don't recall the names and don't care enought to look it up) and just walk the rest of the way. Would have made the movies a lot shorter (like just one movie) so i sort of get why they skiped it...also this...

 

[Calibanbutcher]

LOTR:
They kinda needed to stay hidden.
From a giant eye in a very high tower.
A giant eye which also commanded a group of incredibly powerful Nazgul, who, incidentally, also had flying mounts who could incapacitate almost anyone within hearing range by simply screeching at them.
Now, the eagles were shown to be capable of downing said flying-screech-beasts, but not whilst also carrying someone.
Plus, let's not forget that the eyes power is so strong, that simply being looked at is dangerous.

So why in Galadriel's name would you choose to ride a flying beast over the enemies territory?
You would be spotted almost immediately upon crossing the border and assaulted by a group of immortal spirits whose only wish is to see you broken and destroyed.
It seems safer to me to simply walk into mordor.

Then why the heck were the eagles capable of entering the territory without problems in the end?
Don't forget that the followship has a wizard and master bowmen, those fancy flying mounts are surely vulnerable to arrows in the eyes as well as some protective magic from Gandalf (also a ringbearer). Heck, why not even ask Radagast for help as well. Screaching? Have fun screaching with arrows in your throat. Oh, and we also can't hear you over Gandalfs awesome magic.

So they had to choose to either fly over - with the only problem being the Nazgul (can be dealt with easily as we saw several times in the movies - sorry but they appear to me as a slightly more effective Team Rocket) or to walk on foot through areas held by orcs in masses. Instead of facing 11 flyers at worst they chose to face armies, trolls and a friggin Balrog...

Yeah, somehow I don't buy the ending of Lord of the Rings.

Have you seen the ending of the Lord of the Rings?
Then clearly you have seen Sauron's tower crumbling immediately after the ring was thrown into the flames?
Which, incidentally, happened before the eagles dared cross the border.
Just saying...

And we all saw what good Gandalfs magic was against the Nazgul and their screeching lizards.
The screeching got to him as well and he couldn't protect the soldiers around him.
Then he faced on of the Nazguls head on:
His staff exploded and he was thrown around the place like a ragdoll for a bit before the Nazgul said "screw this Im goin home"

Plus, I never said that the Nazgul were the only problem.
They are the second worst problem I dare say, but let's not forget that Mordor is swarming with orcs and, as far as I know, eagles aren't really known for being arrow proof.
Or rock proof for that matter.

 

[Calibanbutcher]

I went to see The Hobbit last night (Loved it!) and seeing the eagles made me think of the Lord of the Rings plot hole (Why they did not just catch a ride on them to Mordor) but it got me and my friends thinking on what was the biggest/ worst plot hole.

For me it is Harry Potter. Voldemort spends about 15-16 years dead and DUMBledor spends the whole time NOT looking for his soul things (cannot remember the stupid name for them) and destroying them, he does not spend the time actually teaching Harry any usefull or powerfull magic, he does not even bother telling Harry about them until a year after Voldemort returns, he spends the whole time sitting on his arse doing NOTHING!

LOTR:
They kinda needed to stay hidden.
From a giant eye in a very high tower.
A giant eye which also commanded a group of incredibly powerful Nazgul, who, incidentally, also had flying mounts who could incapacitate almost anyone within hearing range by simply screeching at them.
Now, the eagles were shown to be capable of downing said flying-screech-beasts, but not whilst also carrying someone.
Plus, let's not forget that the eyes power is so strong, that simply being looked at is dangerous.

So why in Galadriel's name would you choose to ride a flying beast over the enemies territory?
You would be spotted almost immediately upon crossing the border and assaulted by a group of immortal spirits whose only wish is to see you broken and destroyed.
It seems safer to me to simply walk into mordor.

They might have at least been able to fly the eagles to the white castle (don't recall the names and don't care enought to look it up) and just walk the rest of the way. Would have made the movies a lot shorter (like just one movie) so i sort of get why they skiped it...also this...

I see your version and I raise you this:

Spoiler: part2