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Star Wars episode III: Revenge of the Sith. The ROBOT doctor tells Obi-wan that Padame is dieing of a broken heart.... Seriously? A robot? Not possible. How about the robot tells us that Anikin force choking out a pregnant woman gave her a blood clod in her noggin? Can't operrate cause of the babies?


And lets not forget Anikin Goes from whiney kid, to whiney teen, to whiney 20yr, to killing babies, back to whiney 20yr, to lit on fire to DARTH VADER..... Vader is one of the greatest cinema villains and thats his origin story? The interesting parts of 1-3 all had nothing to do with him.
 

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Pharoah103090 said:
Grayjack72 said:
In RPGs, you can get shot, disemboweled, anything and sleeping can cure you. Also, if you die in a cutscene, you can't be revived.
sorry, don't know how to do the whole hidden spoiler thingy, so until I do...


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I'll take one pick from this wide array with the popular Shin Megami Tensei Persona 3 (Where Greyjack72's avatar hails from). Main character Shinjiro Aragaki, who mind you is probably the biggest bad ass the game has to offer, is only with your party a whole moth before dieing in a cut scene. Well the fact is in that game you face all sorts of things that shoot: fire, ice, lightning, air, and even bullets. Not to mention the number of blades, hammers, and claws you have to deal with. However, these come from demonic creatures, and the bullet that kills Shinjiro is from a basic six-shot revolver. I know this is a typical plothole, but Personas 3 and 4 have won my heart, and to find a plothole big enough for half of Mexico to sneak through pops up, I get a little ticked off.
I was thinking off that scene when I wrote that. In order to use spoilers, you have to type in [*spoiler][*/spoiler] without the *. Type your text between the tags.
 

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Terramax said:
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Don't you realise it is entirely pointless discussing when this technological terror was constructed...

...the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
Then why didn't Darth Vadar blow up everything in the universe at the very start of the first film (apart from the obvious reason that they're be no story)?

p.s. sorry if that's a noob question, but I'm not a Star Wars fan hence I really don't know if there's a really logical reason for it in the Star Wars universe.
Well, I think I'll let this person explain the Force to you.



Hmmm, unwise in the way of the Force you are, yes, destruction is not all power to have there is.

Destruction is foolish, destruction is to rule by fear, what power over a Galaxy full of destroyed planet do you have? Hmm? Hmm! Nothing!

Fear of the Death Star did not the Rebellion stop, no. The Rebel Alliance, united by the Force persevered they did, defeat the Empire... free the Galaxy...

The Force is not for destruction. Life creates it, makes it grow. It's energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you.

So you say, why is Death Star insignificant to the Force? Uuurhh!

Such a powerful and great space station yet one pilot - one young pilot destroyed it it was, with a Torpedo he did. The Force. The Force was with him, found the weak spot on the giant and toppled it he did. Vader knew this. Vader knew that all the power of the Death Star could be undone by the Force.

May the Force be with you. Always.
 

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Disaster Button said:
Wait 200 years which could get a bit tedious.

I dunno why they didn't evacuate though. Seems like a pretty dumb move to just sit there.
As opposed to "attempt to destroy two entire civilizations, and in the process lose the only opportunity to actually save your planet?
 

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Seldon2639 said:
Disaster Button said:
Wait 200 years which could get a bit tedious.

I dunno why they didn't evacuate though. Seems like a pretty dumb move to just sit there.
As opposed to "attempt to destroy two entire civilizations, and in the process lose the only opportunity to actually save your planet?
Uhm. What?
 

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Disaster Button said:
Seldon2639 said:
Disaster Button said:
Wait 200 years which could get a bit tedious.

I dunno why they didn't evacuate though. Seems like a pretty dumb move to just sit there.
As opposed to "attempt to destroy two entire civilizations, and in the process lose the only opportunity to actually save your planet?
Uhm. What?
The tedium of waiting for two-hundred years seems to me to pale in comparison to the sheer retardedness of Nero's plan
 

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Seldon2639 said:
Disaster Button said:
Seldon2639 said:
Disaster Button said:
Wait 200 years which could get a bit tedious.

I dunno why they didn't evacuate though. Seems like a pretty dumb move to just sit there.
As opposed to "attempt to destroy two entire civilizations, and in the process lose the only opportunity to actually save your planet?
Uhm. What?
The tedium of waiting for two-hundred years seems to me to pale in comparison to the sheer retardedness of Nero's plan
Oh sorry, I see what you mean now.

Well I don't think he would survive 200 years, he would also probly go insane from waiting that long most likely. And anyway he never really had a plan, he got pulled into the black hole after Spock and basically wanted to chase after him and get revenge on him as he didn't know what else to do.
 

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Treblaine said:
Terramax said:
Treblaine said:
Don't you realise it is entirely pointless discussing when this technological terror was constructed...

...the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
Then why didn't Darth Vadar blow up everything in the universe at the very start of the first film (apart from the obvious reason that they're be no story)?

p.s. sorry if that's a noob question, but I'm not a Star Wars fan hence I really don't know if there's a really logical reason for it in the Star Wars universe.
Well, I think I'll let this person explain the Force to you.



Hmmm, unwise in the way of the Force you are, yes, destruction is not all power to have there is.

Destruction is foolish, destruction is to rule by fear, what power over a Galaxy full of destroyed planet do you have? Hmm? Hmm! Nothing!

Fear of the Death Star did not the Rebellion stop, no. The Rebel Alliance, united by the Force persevered they did, defeat the Empire... free the Galaxy...

The Force is not for destruction. Life creates it, makes it grow. It's energy surrounds us and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you.

So you say, why is Death Star insignificant to the Force? Uuurhh!

Such a powerful and great space station yet one pilot - one young pilot destroyed it it was, with a Torpedo he did. The Force. The Force was with him, found the weak spot on the giant and toppled it he did. Vader knew this. Vader knew that all the power of the Death Star could be undone by the Force.

May the Force be with you. Always.
Aha! I get it now. Let me just write this down...

*gets notepad out*

Star Wars buffs don't have a clue...
 

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Rev Erebus said:
tthor said:
whats the biggest plothole you've ever seen in a movie?
simple enough

Edit: try to give some specific examples
Film: Jurassic Park 2

How did the men on the ship get killed? The bridge was intact and the T-Rex was still inside the cargo hold.
Yeah that plot hole was so gaping I was a little kid when I saw it and even then I was like, "Um.... Wait a minute..."
 

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I think one of the biggest movie plot holes I have come across was the ending of the second live action Death Note movie.
 

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Disaster Button said:
Yes, he was back in time. Like 200 years back, so he would've had to wait 200 years to save the planet which wouldn't be possible.
Why would he need to wait 200 years?
The ship creates black-holes, it doesn't need to be used on a supernova, as proven by the fact he used it on Vulcan. There is no reason he couldn't have just taken the ship to the star and destroyed it with a black-hole the instant he got back in time. Thereby removing any possibility of that star going supernova at any point in the future.
Well I said this just above with someone else.
Yes, and they explained why you were wrong.

The Red Mass can't create a controllable Black Hole so he wouldn't be able to fly to any specific point on a whim.
If it's controllable enough to destroy a planet, then it's controllable enough to destroy a star.

And exploding the star in the past would mean that (possibly Romulus) star systems would have no Sun and die. Alternatively they would die due to being in close proximity to a Black Hole and get sucked in.
The entire premise of the movie was that turning the star into a black-hole would save Romulus, therefore the star can't be Romulus's star, and black-holes don't suck any harder than a star of equal mass. So turning this star into a black-hole now couldn't suck Romulus in any more than the star itself could.
 

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BonsaiK said:
In Starship Troopers, when the grunts are in training their guns shoot awesome kick-butt lazers, but when the big bug battles happen later on in the movie, the same guns only shoot bullets. No-one ever turns their kick-ass lazers on, what's up with that?
I thought those lasers were supposed to be like the ones from quazer or laser tag. In that they work in that they only provide hit detection to the pads they wore.
 

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I don't know if you call it a plot hole, but I watched mortal combat 2 and it kills off most of the characters, like kabal, stryker an most of the good guys by a simple scene in where a guy comes in a says something along the lines of: "sir, the earth resistance forces include kabal have been killed."

not even a scene or flash back scene of them fighting for their lives, just:"yep! they're dead! we could afford to included them!"
 

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Starship Troopers shows several bug battles. and when comparing them, I find it amusing how early on the bugs require several men to empty their clip on them before they stop moving, but when the movie reaches it's end, a single man can take out a bug with only a few shots.
 

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bassie302 said:
Starship Troopers shows several bug battles. and when comparing them, I find it amusing how early on the bugs require several men to empty their clip on them before they stop moving, but when the movie reaches it's end, a single man can take out a bug with only a few shots.
Don't you get it? Those guys are supposed to be elite, badass marines who have....you're right, that actually makes no bloody sense now I think about it.

I didn't quite understand how in AVPR (Alien vs Predator: Requiem) the Predalien was able to implant multiple embryos into the pregent women in the hospital, a) why can an adult alien produce offspring? (surely that defeats the point of them using facehuggers) and b) it anatomically doesn't make sense (neither of the tubes in a human throat would lead to a woman's womb, which is where it's hinted that the embryoes are implanted).
 

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Hollow Man

Kevin Bacon's physical body is turned transparant making him invisible. So how is it possible that he can stil see. We see things because light projects images on our retina, but if the retina is invisible the light would shine through it thus making it useless.
 

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Maze1125 said:
Disaster Button said:
Maze1125 said:
Disaster Button said:
Yes, he was back in time. Like 200 years back, so he would've had to wait 200 years to save the planet which wouldn't be possible.
Why would he need to wait 200 years?
The ship creates black-holes, it doesn't need to be used on a supernova, as proven by the fact he used it on Vulcan. There is no reason he couldn't have just taken the ship to the star and destroyed it with a black-hole the instant he got back in time. Thereby removing any possibility of that star going supernova at any point in the future.
Well I said this just above with someone else.
Yes, and they explained why you were wrong.

The Red Mass can't create a controllable Black Hole so he wouldn't be able to fly to any specific point on a whim.
If it's controllable enough to destroy a planet, then it's controllable enough to destroy a star.

And exploding the star in the past would mean that (possibly Romulus) star systems would have no Sun and die. Alternatively they would die due to being in close proximity to a Black Hole and get sucked in.
The entire premise of the movie was that turning the star into a black-hole would save Romulus, therefore the star can't be Romulus's star, and black-holes don't suck any harder than a star of equal mass. So turning this star into a black-hole now couldn't suck Romulus in any more than the star itself could.
Hmm. Yknow you're actually right.
Not about the Star having equal pull of a Black Hole cos Black Holes have a lot more effect.

But I guess cos of that the star mustn't have been Romulus' Star
 

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I think one of the biggest movie plot holes I have come across was the ending of the second live action Death Note movie.
I believe I know what you mean but could you describe the plot hole you're talking about?
 

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JMan said:
Sephiwind said:
I think one of the biggest movie plot holes I have come across was the ending of the second live action Death Note movie.
I believe I know what you mean but could you describe the plot hole you're talking about?
At the very end where it turns out at some point L had Misa's deathnote switched with a fake version. At the end when Rem kills Watari and Light thinks he kills L. Misa comes back and hands Light her death note. He touches it and suddenly can see Riuk (or how ever his name is spelled) the plot hole is that if the death note Misa had was a fake, then Light should have not been able to see Riuk sicne he gave up ownership of that death note.

I know that some people don't consider it a plot hole becsue they say that well since he had his memory of the Death Note returned he should be able to see Riuk again. Well if that is the case then when Misa took ownership of Lights old death note then she should have gotten the shinigami eyes back.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Hollow Man

Kevin Bacon's physical body is turned transparant making him invisible. So how is it possible that he can stil see. We see things because light projects images on our retina, but if the retina is invisible the light would shine through it thus making it useless.
I was going to use that one. Makes no sense. Maybe if he was "Translucent Man" and you could still maybe kinda make him out but his eyes could then pick up enough light to see.

Also not so much plot holes but nearly all the characters in Star Wars 1-3 have ridiculous plot armour/amnesia/are retarded, which results in some pretty contrived stuff.