Biggest Plothole?

[Dentedgod]

Preventing the apocalypse in Terminator 2 would make it so John Connor does not exist.

It is accepted cannon that they did not prevent J-day in T2, they just pushed it back a little. If you rewatch it, they even kinda hint at it because there are other Terminator parts out there and skynet is still being built in other forms.

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You have to realize that the way they do time travel in the Terminator series/comics/tv show makes all plot holes easily repairable. For example the show eliminated T3 within the first two or three episodes. So if Skynet had sent another Terminator back before the events of T2 happened (which did happen in the show), there would be a terminator somewhere else on the planet. This is why I think Future John Connor is trying to get skynet to join him in the show.

 

[HT_Black]

It's by no means big, but I wish to point out a plot hole in the Star Wars Continuity (the only one, as far as I can tell):

So in The Force Unleased, Starkiller visited a fully operational Death Star during the emperor's inagural visit BEFORE the creation of the rebel alliance; above an unknown planet. Fair enough.

However, in the game Star Wars: Lethal alliance, the Twi'lek bounty hunter Ryanna Sarin visited a fully operational Death Star above an unnamed planet at the behest of Kyle Katarn, who was a member of the rebel alliance; however, he didn't join until five years AFTER the alliance's creation.

Thus, Paradox.

/nerd

The one in the Force Unleashed wasn't fully operational. Hell take a good look at it; it's mostly just the frame of the station, with the testing on the laser, while enough to fry stormtroopers, would not be enough to destroy a planet.

SO there you go, paradox solved. The Death Star in The Force Unleashed was far from complete, with a prototype laser installed that would ultimately be replaced by a newer model years later.

Unless the emperor set up a second home on the good old star, I doubt he'd still be making his INAGURAL visit by the time Ms. Sarin shows up...which he was.

Five years later.

 

[Seldon2639]

I've been re-watching the early episodes recently, and basically the entirety of How I Met Your Mother is a series of plot holes. Some were pretty minor, and mostly involved changes in stories, especially in later seasons:

- Why did Lily paint a nude portrait of Marshall? When it's first introduced, it's because she wanted to paint a nude for her art class. When re-explained in the fourth season, it's because Marshall "ate her bowl of fruit".

But the one that sticks in my mind, and drives me a bit crazy, is this one:

Season two ends with Ted and Robin broken up, and at Lily and Marshall's wedding. They've told the story to Barney, and Barney and Ted are standing on the balcony together, discussing how difficult it's going to be for Ted to get back into dating, and how he might need a wingman. Barney begins "it's going to be lengen-wait for it-" and the credits roll. Season three begins with "-dary, legendary. And I've already got a girl lined up for you from work". Literally no time has passed between the end of second and beginning of third season, and Barney has just learned about the breakup. There would have been no opportunity to have 'already' lined up a girl for him.

 

[Seldon2639]

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

 

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

 

[Seldon2639]

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

That's the plothole of the entire movie. I'm saying that if we accept the "blackhole solves the exploding star" solution in general, he could have gone back in time, and used the red mass on the star (which Spock was too late to do) and solved it that way

 

[Disaster Button]

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

That's the plothole of the entire movie. I'm saying that if we accept the "blackhole solves the exploding star" solution in general, he could have gone back in time, and used the red mass on the star (which Spock was too late to do) and solved it that way

Hmm. I see what you mean but it wouldn't be possible for a simple lack of technology. They don't have control over time travel it only ever happens by accident and the destinations people are forced back to are random. So it could work, if they could time travel relliably, which they cant

 

[Seldon2639]

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

That's the plothole of the entire movie. I'm saying that if we accept the "blackhole solves the exploding star" solution in general, he could have gone back in time, and used the red mass on the star (which Spock was too late to do) and solved it that way

Hmm. I see what you mean but it wouldn't be possible for a simple lack of technology. They don't have control over time travel it only ever happens by accident and the destinations people are forced back to are random. So it could work, if they could time travel relliably, which they cant

They'd already gotten back into the past, they could just wait for the problem to arise, or (as before) evacuate the damned planet. The tragic warrior thing loses a bit of influence when he could have solved the problem his own damned self

 

[Maze1125]

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

That's the plothole of the entire movie. I'm saying that if we accept the "blackhole solves the exploding star" solution in general, he could have gone back in time, and used the red mass on the star (which Spock was too late to do) and solved it that way

Hmm. I see what you mean but it wouldn't be possible for a simple lack of technology. They don't have control over time travel it only ever happens by accident and the destinations people are forced back to are random. So it could work, if they could time travel relliably, which they cant

He was already back in time, with the ship that can stop the star, knowing full well which star was going to blow up in the future.

There was no reason to carry out the vendetta against Spock when he could have just gone and stopped the star himself long long before the problem would even occur.

 

[bushwhacker2k]

Ever played KOTOR 2? They rushed that game so badly

OT: Oh a movie? hmm...maybe Cloverfield . WTF is this "monster"?

KotOR is soooo buggy D:

Cloverfield SUCKED, awful movie.

 

[Terramax]

Alone in the Dark - The Movie had some serious randomness. I know you want examples but I haven't seen it in years. All I remember is not understand anything that happened in it. Nothing was explained or justified.

 

[Terramax]

Don't you realise it is entirely pointless discussing when this technological terror was constructed...

...the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

Then why didn't Darth Vadar blow up everything in the universe at the very start of the first film (apart from the obvious reason that they're be no story)?

p.s. sorry if that's a noob question, but I'm not a Star Wars fan hence I really don't know if there's a really logical reason for it in the Star Wars universe.

 

[Disaster Button]

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

That's the plothole of the entire movie. I'm saying that if we accept the "blackhole solves the exploding star" solution in general, he could have gone back in time, and used the red mass on the star (which Spock was too late to do) and solved it that way

Hmm. I see what you mean but it wouldn't be possible for a simple lack of technology. They don't have control over time travel it only ever happens by accident and the destinations people are forced back to are random. So it could work, if they could time travel relliably, which they cant

He was already back in time, with the ship that can stop the star, knowing full well which star was going to blow up in the future.

There was no reason to carry out the vendetta against Spock when he could have just gone and stopped the star himself long long before the problem would even occur.

Yes, he was back in time. Like 200 years back, so he would've had to wait 200 years to save the planet which wouldn't be possible. Also there is a reason, revenge and avenging his race, family and planet. He could even be mentally unstable because of his loss.

 

[Disaster Button]

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

That's the plothole of the entire movie. I'm saying that if we accept the "blackhole solves the exploding star" solution in general, he could have gone back in time, and used the red mass on the star (which Spock was too late to do) and solved it that way

Hmm. I see what you mean but it wouldn't be possible for a simple lack of technology. They don't have control over time travel it only ever happens by accident and the destinations people are forced back to are random. So it could work, if they could time travel relliably, which they cant

They'd already gotten back into the past, they could just wait for the problem to arise, or (as before) evacuate the damned planet. The tragic warrior thing loses a bit of influence when he could have solved the problem his own damned self

Wait 200 years which could get a bit tedious.

I dunno why they didn't evacuate though. Seems like a pretty dumb move to just sit there.

 

[Maze1125]

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In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

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just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

That's the plothole of the entire movie. I'm saying that if we accept the "blackhole solves the exploding star" solution in general, he could have gone back in time, and used the red mass on the star (which Spock was too late to do) and solved it that way

Hmm. I see what you mean but it wouldn't be possible for a simple lack of technology. They don't have control over time travel it only ever happens by accident and the destinations people are forced back to are random. So it could work, if they could time travel relliably, which they cant

He was already back in time, with the ship that can stop the star, knowing full well which star was going to blow up in the future.

There was no reason to carry out the vendetta against Spock when he could have just gone and stopped the star himself long long before the problem would even occur.

Yes, he was back in time. Like 200 years back, so he would've had to wait 200 years to save the planet which wouldn't be possible.

Why would he need to wait 200 years?
The ship creates black-holes, it doesn't need to be used on a supernova, as proven by the fact he used it on Vulcan. There is no reason he couldn't have just taken the ship to the star and destroyed it with a black-hole the instant he got back in time. Thereby removing any possibility of that star going supernova at any point in the future.

 

[dalek sec]

The whole plot of the steaming pile of shit that is Ikki Tousen.

You shall find out just how bad when my review of it is up.

What's "Ikki Tousen"?

 

[Blind0bserver]

Think back to Spiderman 3 for a moment. Remember that giant industrial crane that lost control and went into these ballistic murder spasms, tearing the guts out of a New York skyscraper so the writers could introduce another love interest?

From what we saw on-screen no one bothered to stop the crane.

 

[The Bandit]

It's by no means big, but I wish to point out a plot hole in the Star Wars Continuity (the only one, as far as I can tell):

So in The Force Unleased, Starkiller visited a fully operational Death Star during the emperor's inagural visit BEFORE the creation of the rebel alliance; above an unknown planet. Fair enough.

However, in the game Star Wars: Lethal alliance, the Twi'lek bounty hunter Ryanna Sarin visited a fully operational Death Star above an unnamed planet at the behest of Kyle Katarn, who was a member of the rebel alliance; however, he didn't join until five years AFTER the alliance's creation.

Thus, Paradox.

/nerd

All of the creation of the Death Star bullshit is full of plotholes. So many characters recovered the Death Star plans that it's ridiculous. Not to mention the fact that it took 20 years to create the first Death Star, but like three to make the second. UH HURR DURR

Halo with the Prophet of Truth and Gravemind/Cortana.

Halo 2 led you to believe that Truth had some ulterior motive for wanting to fire the rings, rather than religious crap. It almost seemed like he didn't follow the religion at all. It was actually interesting. I looked forward to finding out what was going on the in the third. Apparently, they couldn't think of a good motive, so they completely scrapped that junk and made him into a mindless zealot.

Even more annoying than this is Gravemind and Cortana's relationship. And Cortana's character in general. While I understand what Gravemind wanted Cortana for (to try to find a way around the Halo rings), it doesn't really delve into her craziness that much. This wouldn't be that annoying if she didn't pop up every five minutes reminding you that's she's batshit insane. But, once you rescue her, everything's perfectly dandy. There's no lasting effects of her torture, or really why she endured it. it's like the game wants you to wonder why she turns crazy, but when you start asking questions it wants you to forget it ever happened.

She also says a few lines that implies she cooperates with Gravemind. Her last line in Halo 2 (Alright, shoot) makes it seem like she's about to tell him whatever he wants to know. And then in Halo 3 "for a few moments of safety, I risked damnation across the stars." Yet, apparently, she resists right up until you rescue her Gravemind: "AT LAST! The secret is revealed!"). I suppose she could've told him about the Ark in general, but it wouldn't be that hard to figure out with that giant portal floating over the sky. Plus, the fact that Cortana NEVER mentions to anyone anything about the Ark, or the existence of other Halos.

Oh. And you don't actually get to see/fight Gravemind in Halo 3 was just pure shit. But, that's not really a plot hole.

inb4 "who cares about Halo's plot?" I fucking do.

 

[Disaster Button]

Spoiler

In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

Ugh. The star blowing up actually causes the destruction of Romulus, so why would Nero wan't to be the cause of it himself? And I'm pretty sure it's hard to blow up a Sun cos you feel like it.

Dude, he's got the red mass. He could easily have

Spoiler

just sent the star into a black hole, or evacuated the damned planet. He could have even waited until the star went nova and accomplished the mission Spock failed at

He got the Red Mass, AFTER the star exploded. And even if he used the redmass to absorb the explosion, the Black Hole would've been so close to Romulus that the Black Hole itself would destroy the planet.

That's the plothole of the entire movie. I'm saying that if we accept the "blackhole solves the exploding star" solution in general, he could have gone back in time, and used the red mass on the star (which Spock was too late to do) and solved it that way

Hmm. I see what you mean but it wouldn't be possible for a simple lack of technology. They don't have control over time travel it only ever happens by accident and the destinations people are forced back to are random. So it could work, if they could time travel relliably, which they cant

He was already back in time, with the ship that can stop the star, knowing full well which star was going to blow up in the future.

There was no reason to carry out the vendetta against Spock when he could have just gone and stopped the star himself long long before the problem would even occur.

Yes, he was back in time. Like 200 years back, so he would've had to wait 200 years to save the planet which wouldn't be possible.

Why would he need to wait 200 years?
The ship creates black-holes, it doesn't need to be used on a supernova, as proven by the fact he used it on Vulcan. There is no reason he couldn't have just taken the ship to the star and destroyed it with a black-hole the instant he got back in time. Thereby removing any possibility of that star going supernova at any point in the future.

Well I said this just above with someone else. The Red Mass can't create a controllable Black Hole so he wouldn't be able to fly to any specific point on a whim. And exploding the star in the past would mean that (possibly Romulus) star systems would have no Sun and die. Alternatively they would die due to being in close proximity to a Black Hole and get sucked in.

I dunno why they couldn't jsut evacuate the planet though in the future.. maybe cos it would take too much time to evacuate all those people?