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The Blue Mongoose said:
Watch an episode of Buffy. So if Angel is ever happy, right, he turns evil. But he loves Buffy. So, he's happy when around her. The thing just says they can't have sex. Apparently sex is the only way to true happiness.

Not to mention: WHY THE HELL does every vampire/demon/bad thing come to Sunnydale? Why not try to take over/destroy/whatever the world from, say New York... or the middle of a desert?
You already have your answer - you even wrote it in capitals for yourself.
It's the Hellmouth - you gotta aim big if you're gunna take over/destroy/whatever the world.

Also, Giles did explain this; it's a type of pull, like gravity, that attracts bad things to Sunnydale without them even being aware. Also, Buffy is there and they all kind of want her ass, but not in a good way. So it's a mixture of bloodlust fer the Buffster and the Force (-_-') that attract all the bad'uns.

But OP, Big 'ole plot hole sitting pretty in Final Destination 3. I can't honestly say I cared 'cos I was just watching those movies for the gore and the bant, but Wendy has a camera for yearbook, yet the yearbooks come out right after the accident. There wouldn't be enough time to get those pics into the yearbook.

Also, not plot holes, but the amount of errors in continuity made in the Harry Potter movies is enough to make you sick as pig, should you care about stuff like that.
 

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Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness:

To prove that she is not a murderer, Lara must go on a one woman rampage, killing many innocent police officers, people who stand in her way and various animals...

...Makes perfect sense doesn't it.
 

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Any Death in any game where dying isn't so bad due to spells/magical items that can rez people.

Notable examples:

Prince Rurik - Guild Wars
Aeris - FF7
 

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Grayjack72 said:
In RPGs, you can get shot, disemboweled, anything and sleeping can cure you. Also, if you die in a cutscene, you can't be revived.
sorry, don't know how to do the whole hidden spoiler thingy, so until I do...


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I'll take one pick from this wide array with the popular Shin Megami Tensei Persona 3 (Where Greyjack72's avatar hails from). Main character Shinjiro Aragaki, who mind you is probably the biggest bad ass the game has to offer, is only with your party a whole moth before dieing in a cut scene. Well the fact is in that game you face all sorts of things that shoot: fire, ice, lightning, air, and even bullets. Not to mention the number of blades, hammers, and claws you have to deal with. However, these come from demonic creatures, and the bullet that kills Shinjiro is from a basic six-shot revolver. I know this is a typical plothole, but Personas 3 and 4 have won my heart, and to find a plothole big enough for half of Mexico to sneak through pops up, I get a little ticked off.
Combined with the fact that he has constantly being shooting himself in the head with a fricken evoker the whole time kinda adds to the damn situation. Magic and claws may knock you down but cut scenes will always kill you.
PS I know evokers aren't real guns, before someone inevitably points this out.
Also the spoiler thingy you mention can be found here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/markup_help.php
 

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Omega NZ said:
Pharoah103090 said:
Grayjack72 said:
In RPGs, you can get shot, disemboweled, anything and sleeping can cure you. Also, if you die in a cutscene, you can't be revived.
sorry, don't know how to do the whole hidden spoiler thingy, so until I do...


SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!!!


I'll take one pick from this wide array with the popular Shin Megami Tensei Persona 3 (Where Greyjack72's avatar hails from). Main character Shinjiro Aragaki, who mind you is probably the biggest bad ass the game has to offer, is only with your party a whole moth before dieing in a cut scene. Well the fact is in that game you face all sorts of things that shoot: fire, ice, lightning, air, and even bullets. Not to mention the number of blades, hammers, and claws you have to deal with. However, these come from demonic creatures, and the bullet that kills Shinjiro is from a basic six-shot revolver. I know this is a typical plothole, but Personas 3 and 4 have won my heart, and to find a plothole big enough for half of Mexico to sneak through pops up, I get a little ticked off.
Combined with the fact that he has constantly being shooting himself in the head with a fricken evoker the whole time kinda adds to the damn situation. Magic and claws may knock you down but cut scenes will always kill you.
PS I know evokers aren't real guns, before someone inevitably points this out.
./clap kudos for bringing that point up in an intellectual way. Too many people just say "he also kills himself with his gun lol" but thankfully you put in both an actual smart and quite humorous way. kudos to you sir.
 

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Ever played KOTOR 2? They rushed that game so badly

OT: Oh a movie? hmm...maybe Cloverfield . WTF is this "monster"?
Yeah the cloverfield monster wasn't a plothole because the idea of the film was to keep the audience guessing as to what the creature was.
 

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Well LOST seems to be tying itself back up now since its near the end of the show.
But the film.. hmm.. GODZILLA! I want to know what they did with those fucking eggs.
Not to mention Red Dwarf, where Rimmer kicks the Grim Reaper in the balls and runs. It left us with a "THE END... THE SMEG IT IS" last screen. Years later we get the worse special episodes ever to exsist and it doesnt even explain how the hell they got their in the first place, i mean, everyone was dead or in a diffrent diemention?!

/Rant.
 

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The Terminator Salvation one isn't that bad when you consider the TV series... It's pretty much established there that you can cause a fuckload of time paradoxes without consequences, since it just creates a bunch of alternate timelines.
I.e. there was a fair chance killing Kyle would have done nothing in the timeline Salvation happened.

Which of course, begs a question why anyone cares to try to change the past if it does nothing for you?
 

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in .hack//SIGN, they totally skipped and entire episode of information. Tsukasa, the main character didnt have his name revealed until people started talking about him in the second episode and these were people he hardly knew
 

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Omega NZ said:
Combined with the fact that he has constantly being shooting himself in the head with a fricken evoker the whole time kinda adds to the damn situation. Magic and claws may knock you down but cut scenes will always kill you.
PS I know evokers aren't real guns, before someone inevitably points this out.
Also the spoiler thingy you mention can be found here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/markup_help.php
Nobody thinks of stuff like that in cutscenes. It's like they lose all sense of logic.

Now I don't have to explain why I think Aerith's (or Aeris's I don't care) death is the biggest plothole because pretty much everybody knows it. It's called a phoenix down guys!
 

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Vlane said:
Omega NZ said:
Combined with the fact that he has constantly being shooting himself in the head with a fricken evoker the whole time kinda adds to the damn situation. Magic and claws may knock you down but cut scenes will always kill you.
PS I know evokers aren't real guns, before someone inevitably points this out.
Also the spoiler thingy you mention can be found here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/markup_help.php
Nobody thinks of stuff like that in cutscenes. It's like they lose all sense of logic.

Now I don't have to explain why I think Aerith's (or Aeris's I don't care) death is the biggest plothole because pretty much everybody knows it. It's called a phoenix down guys!
Just thought of another minor (plothole?)Even when an enemy uses death on your party, you still only get knocked down. In the world of RPGs, death can't kill you, but cut scenes can.
 

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Don't know if anybody has mentioned this yet but Back to the Future.

"Hey honey, don't you think its weird that our son turned out to look exactly and I mean EXACTLY like your ex from the fifties"
"Not at all honey"
"Oh, me neither, I was just sayin'"
 

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The Blue Mongoose said:
WHY THE HELL does every vampire/demon/bad thing come to Sunnydale? Why not try to take over/destroy/whatever the world from, say New York... or the middle of a desert?
Sunnydale is built above a Hellmouth which would explain all the evil.
 

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Wyes said:
messy said:
mr man said:
BonsaiK said:
In Starship Troopers, when the grunts are in training their guns shoot awesome kick-butt lazers, but when the big bug battles happen later on in the movie, the same guns only shoot bullets. No-one ever turns their kick-ass lazers on, what's up with that?
i think those were for training, you know sensors and all that dark wizardry.
Well the lasers we're powerful enough to melt someone's face so surely they'd so something against the bugs.
I don't remember this at all? In the version I have, the targets fire lasers which 'shock' people or some such, and the troopers have regular rifles. The chick gets hit by one, spasms, pulls the trigger on her rifle , which blows the head off the other guy.
well yeah I meant the head exploding but I remember it as melting.
 

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messy said:
Wyes said:
messy said:
mr man said:
BonsaiK said:
In Starship Troopers, when the grunts are in training their guns shoot awesome kick-butt lazers, but when the big bug battles happen later on in the movie, the same guns only shoot bullets. No-one ever turns their kick-ass lazers on, what's up with that?
i think those were for training, you know sensors and all that dark wizardry.
Well the lasers we're powerful enough to melt someone's face so surely they'd so something against the bugs.
I don't remember this at all? In the version I have, the targets fire lasers which 'shock' people or some such, and the troopers have regular rifles. The chick gets hit by one, spasms, pulls the trigger on her rifle , which blows the head off the other guy.
well yeah I meant the head exploding but I remember it as melting.
There are two different scenes with lasers in Starship Troopers

There is one training scene where they shoot with lasers that activate sensors and electroshocks in a sort-of-Capture the Flag Game, but are otherwise harmless. No one dies.

In another one the recruits "fight" stationary targets that shoot the same sensor-activating-lasers but the recruits fire live ammunition. In this scene, one guy gets his head blown off in the way messy described.

So the lasers in Starship Troopers are harmless, but the real guns...oh boy.
 

messy

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Frybird said:
messy said:
Wyes said:
messy said:
mr man said:
BonsaiK said:
In Starship Troopers, when the grunts are in training their guns shoot awesome kick-butt lazers, but when the big bug battles happen later on in the movie, the same guns only shoot bullets. No-one ever turns their kick-ass lazers on, what's up with that?
i think those were for training, you know sensors and all that dark wizardry.
Well the lasers we're powerful enough to melt someone's face so surely they'd so something against the bugs.
I don't remember this at all? In the version I have, the targets fire lasers which 'shock' people or some such, and the troopers have regular rifles. The chick gets hit by one, spasms, pulls the trigger on her rifle , which blows the head off the other guy.
well yeah I meant the head exploding but I remember it as melting.
There are two different scenes with lasers in Starship Troopers

There is one training scene where they shoot with lasers that activate sensors and electroshocks in a sort-of-Capture the Flag Game, but are otherwise harmless. No one dies.

In another one the recruits "fight" stationary targets that shoot the same sensor-activating-lasers but the recruits fire live ammunition. In this scene, one guy gets his head blown off in the way messy described.

So the lasers in Starship Troopers are harmless, but the real guns...oh boy.
Well that makes a lot more sense and explains why they didn't use laser against the bugs. Cheers
 

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You want one biggest one? How bout ten brudda:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/smg-transformers-10-questions.html

1. In "Transformers," there was this giant battle in the middle of downtown Los Angeles -- excuse me, Mission City -- that was witnessed by thousands of people at the very least. But somehow the government was able to cover up the whole thing, and now the existence of alien robots is just an internet rumor? How did they do it? Pay off everyone who was there and quickly fix millions of dollars in damage? Also, didn't Keller (Jon Voight) go on TV and tell everyone we were being attacked by "a technological civilization far superior to our own"? How did they spin that?

2. There are two pieces of the Allspark cube left: the military has one under lock and key, and Sam discovers another. The Decepticons steal one and bring Megatron back to life. But when Sam (Shia LaBeouf) wants to bring back Optimus, he has to find the Matrix of Leadership on the other side of the globe. Why not use the other piece? Mikaela (Megan Fox) has it in her backpack the whole time. It brought his kitchen appliances to life, why can't it do the same for Optimus?

3. Speaking of Megatron's rebirth, when the Decepticons venture deep into the ocean to revive him, the Navy crew tracking them reads five contacts. When they get down there, they tear apart one of the robots for parts to rebuild Megatron. Then as they rise to the surface, the same Navy guys say they spot six contacts. The little "Doctor" robot popped out down there, but he's about a third of the size of a person. Would he have shown up on sonar?

4. That reminds me: even if I were to forgive the Doctor's German accent -- and director Michael Bay is asking me to forgive a lot of ridiculous accents -- why would a robot need glasses? He has little lenses that flip in front of his mechanical eyes. Couldn't he just get his eyes adjusted? You'd think with all the laser guns, someone could perform a Lasik procedure.

5. Apparently, Transformers can look like people now. How? And how is it that even though the robo-girl (Isabel Lucas) is made of metal, she can still straddle Sam without crushing him. And if Bumblebee knows something's wrong with her, why does he spit antifreeze at her instead of telling Sam? Yes, his voicebox is broken, but wasn't it fixed at the end of the last movie?

6. The Fallen is the last of the Primes, since they all sacrificed themselves to stop him from destroying the sun. But then he says that Optimus is a descendant of the Primes. First, Transformers have kids? And second, how could he descend from them if they were all dead? And if the Fallen could only be destroyed by a Prime, why didn't the originals just gang up on him back in the day? And what makes Optimus so special, anyway? Megatron beat him earlier, but all it takes is a few spare parts from creaky old Jetfire for him to take out the Fallen?

7. Sam, Mikaela, and Simmons (John Turturro) go to the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum in Washington D.C. to find Jetfire. Then they walk out the back onto a wide open field with old planes and mountains in the distance. When did the National Mall start to look so much like to Tucson, AZ (where they really filmed that scene)?

8. The geography is just as bad when they go to Egypt. The stone city of Petra in Jordan is over 250 miles away, over mountainous terrain, with few paved roads and the Israeli border between them, so how can they drive from one to the other in a couple of hours. And the Pyramids are said to be shooting distance from the Mediterranean, but they are actually well over 80 miles inland. Even if the Navy ship had a secret rail gun, and even if the captain would take an order to fire from a former agent of a government branch that no longer exists (over a walkie-talkie that inexplicably starts working again), how could it hit a moving target from that distance?

9. Sam briefly dies and goes to Robot Heaven. Robot Heaven?!?!

10. Where does Sam's bandage come from? What about his extra sock? Why does Sam's roommate not contribute anything at all? What was the Fallen doing for those thousands of years Megatron was frozen in ice? How does one satellite receive transmissions from everywhere on the planet? Why does Wheelie hump Mikaela's leg? Why do we have to see John Turturro's thong? Why are robots who join together to become Devastator also seen fighting the Army at the same time? Why does the government want only our military fighting Decepticons when our weapons seem unable to make so much as a dent on any of them? Why did the ancient Egyptians build a pyramid around the sun-destroying machines instead of just breaking it? Why is the Matrix of Leadership bigger in the Fallen's hand than in Sam's? And how do Mikaela's pants stay so clean?
 

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In Spiderman 3... WHY THE F*** DIDN'T THE BUTLER TELL HARRY THE WOUND THAT KILLED NORMAN WAS SELF INFLICTED IN THE FIRST MOVIE?

Seriously, way to wait until AFTER he's gone on some stupid revenge crusade and gotten himself physically scarred to tell him he'd gotten it all wrong.

And in Wolverine: Origins - given his enhanced senses, wouldn't Wolverine have noticed his beloved wasn't really dead?