Biggest Plothole?

[Durxom]

Ok..for another plot hole to the Dragonball GT stuff, how was Pilaf and co. even alive to mess with the black star dragonballs, when after Buu blew up Earth in DBZ, the basic wishes were "To bring Earth back to the way it was before it go boom", and "To revive everyone on Earth, EXCEPT for the bad/evil ones".

And for this Death Star business, why would the Trade Federation need something that could destroy freaking planets?? They are a TRADE Federation, I understand the blockade-ing being useful for say traders or such not corresponding and such, but a planet destroyer...thats just bad business..and there has only been 2 death stars, the first one you see at the end of ep. 3 (starting to be built), it being near completion ie. just a bit farther along than the 2nd one was (Force Unleashed), and in ep. 4, and the 2nd one being in ep. 6. So either, this Lethal Alliance game thing is non-canon, or it has no idea where it is in the timeline.

 

[Frybird]

In the xmen movies, how Dr Xavier has the machine which can find and locate any mutant on the planet, yet he can't detect a scaly blue mutant disguised and hiding inside the academy.

Well, i could be cheap and just say he didn't used it at the moment (...or did he? such a long time since i saw that movie)

And less of a specific plothole, but a weird trope that created plotholes in oh-so-many movies:
So, the guy who used to work for the mostly evil organization suddenly gets hunted by them for one reason or another, and is, thanks to his knowledge about the evil headquarters and their hideous schemes, one of thier greatest enemy.
Yet, no one ever seems to have the idea that someone should call up the IT department to invalidate that guy's magical all-access ID card that allows him to effortlessly infiltrate his former employer...often times days after he became a target.

Examples: District 9, Terminator 3, and, probably the worst offender, Minority Report:

Spoiler

Sooo, Anderton breaks out, gets an Eyeball Transplant to avert scanners but keeps his own so he can break into the Precrime Headquarters again...while his enemies figure out what he is about to do and fail to prevent it.
So he escapes again but eventually gets captured for good...only to break out AGAIN thanks to his WIFE sneaking into the facility he is kept in by once again using the eyeballs of her gone-rogue husband, DAYS after the initial security breach.

 

[Phenakist]

Harry Potter films, 4 onwards, they left out Dobby, 5 they left out cleaning the house, and they left out so much of number 6 I would be here quite a while. I kept that spoiler free, anyone who has read the books will know what I'm talking about .

 

[Custard_Angel]

The entire Shoot 'Em Up movie was a giant plothole. It was like the movie equivalent of a sieve.

The awesome movie equivalent to a sieve.

Carrots anyone?

 

[Shaoken]

Spoiler

In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

That one is quite easy actually.

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Seeing Romulas destroyed did a number of him mentally, and he blamed Spock for not being able to save his planet. He goes after Spock and winds up in the past, after which he fights with the Kelvin. What they cut out of the movie was that after that scene he and his crew were captured by Klingons and imprisoned for 25 years. Even without that scene though he was still waiting for 25 years to find Spock. He had gone from "pissed off at Spock" to "I've been suffering for 25 years, now you get to know what it's like." Yes, logically stopping the star's super-supernova would have been the smart move, but he was unhinged and mentally instable and vindictive as hell. He wanted Spock to suffer for his "crimes".

It's by no means big, but I wish to point out a plot hole in the Star Wars Continuity (the only one, as far as I can tell):

So in The Force Unleased, Starkiller visited a fully operational Death Star during the emperor's inagural visit BEFORE the creation of the rebel alliance; above an unknown planet. Fair enough.

However, in the game Star Wars: Lethal alliance, the Twi'lek bounty hunter Ryanna Sarin visited a fully operational Death Star above an unnamed planet at the behest of Kyle Katarn, who was a member of the rebel alliance; however, he didn't join until five years AFTER the alliance's creation.

Thus, Paradox.

/nerd

The one in the Force Unleashed wasn't fully operational. Hell take a good look at it; it's mostly just the frame of the station, with the testing on the laser, while enough to fry stormtroopers, would not be enough to destroy a planet.

SO there you go, paradox solved. The Death Star in The Force Unleashed was far from complete, with a prototype laser installed that would ultimately be replaced by a newer model years later.

Dragon Ball GT had a huge one, so big you could drive trains through it.

what is this plothole?

You want me to go into details? Ok bear with me. Ok the series kicks off with the introduction of the black-star dragon balls, which Pilof inadvertently uses to turn Goku back into a kid. Since these black-star balls have the nasty side effect of destroying the planet they were last used on if they're not reunited within a years time, Goku and Co. (Trunks and Pan) have to go gallivanting all over the Universe looking for them. Ok so that's the background info, now for the plothole. While on this journey to recollect the black-star dragon balls, Goku and Co. end up crossing paths with one Dr. Mew (I'm pretty sure I'm spelling that wrong, but I don't feel like looking up the correct spelling) who has his own designs for the dragon balls. The plothole is this, all evidence given seems to suggest that Dr. Mew's plans had been set in motion many many years prior to the series, what with the establishment of the Ludian religion and conquest of M2, which would have been impossible since the black-star balls had only scattered recently, as in less then a year prior to their meeting.

You forgot an even bigger plot hole; the Black Star Dragon Balls were created by the evil Piccolo Sr. after Kami split with him. However like the normal dragon balls they should have lost their power completely when Piccolo and Kami fused again. Quite simply the Black Star Dragon balls should never have existed to begin with.

 

[Jemal]

Star Wars:
"Only the Sith deal in absolutes."
OK, ignoring the fact that that statement ITSELF is an absolute, compare it to Yodas most famous of quotes
"Do or do not, there is no try". How much more Absolute can you freakin get?!?

 

[Charli]

...Pretty much any game ever with a "Life restoration item" And then someone dying permenantly.

Oh so Huge firey super moves of Spectacular wonderment just knock you out but a bullet in the gut finishes em off huh... Riiiight.

 

[the1ultimate]

http://www.cracked.com/article_16625_8-classic-movies-that-got-away-with-gaping-plot-holes.html

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I couldn't help but make up excuses while I read this. It seems to be deliberately trying to attack the part of my childhood that firmly believes that the real king has the power to make the world a better place.

The Back to the Future plothole mentioned was one I had thought of but I thought a somewhat bigger one happened in Back to the Future II when Biff changes the past but still manages to get back to the original future, a future which the protagonists specifically can't get back to after they return to the past.

Also they didn't consider the possibility that Harry and Hermione are just such good students that they don't want to break the law more than- Yeah, actually some of the other plot holes are pretty good points.

 

[Frybird]

Spoiler

In the Star Trek movie, how come Nero didn't just blow up the star that would destroy Romulas, crisis averted and in the future he lives on with his wife and kid

That one is quite easy actually.

Spoiler

Seeing Romulas destroyed did a number of him mentally, and he blamed Spock for not being able to save his planet. He goes after Spock and winds up in the past, after which he fights with the Kelvin. What they cut out of the movie was that after that scene he and his crew were captured by Klingons and imprisoned for 25 years. Even without that scene though he was still waiting for 25 years to find Spock. He had gone from "pissed off at Spock" to "I've been suffering for 25 years, now you get to know what it's like." Yes, logically stopping the star's super-supernova would have been the smart move, but he was unhinged and mentally instable and vindictive as hell. He wanted Spock to suffer for his "crimes".

It's funny, actually i think many of the Plotholes of Star Trek can be explained away since the "big bad" of the movie is a simple, crazed romulan miner whose ship happens to be totally badass thanks to technology from the future.

 

[Shaoken]

In transformers the all-spark could create life from any form of technology. No matter what it hit, the sentient being it created was evil. So we can assume the natural order of the all-spark is evil. So megatron is not the abomination here, Optimus Prime and the autobots are the freaks

Not really. Remember, all modern technology was reversed enginered from Megatron, who was fairly evil. So all human technology being turned evil by the allspark is because of Megatron's evil. Kinda a stretch, but not really a plot hole.

 

[Jemal]

Ah, so technology isn't evil afterall.. just human technology.

 

[Kurt Horsting]

Citizen Cane: No one can hear cane say "Rosebud" before he dies.

 

[Woodsey]

biggest plothole? probaly how the joker died way back in the original comics but like 2 issues later...wham! best villain ever is a clown jesus

It's comic book law apparently.

I never get why people get so worked up about the possible death of a character (Like I read in an article about the new Iron Man comics) when even if it does happen, he'll still be alive!

How's there supposed to be any emotional weight when everyone dies and resurrects without a second thought?

 

[messy]

In Starship Troopers, when the grunts are in training their guns shoot awesome kick-butt lazers, but when the big bug battles happen later on in the movie, the same guns only shoot bullets. No-one ever turns their kick-ass lazers on, what's up with that?

i think those were for training, you know sensors and all that dark wizardry.

Well the lasers we're powerful enough to melt someone's face so surely they'd so something against the bugs.

 

[Wyes]

In Starship Troopers, when the grunts are in training their guns shoot awesome kick-butt lazers, but when the big bug battles happen later on in the movie, the same guns only shoot bullets. No-one ever turns their kick-ass lazers on, what's up with that?

i think those were for training, you know sensors and all that dark wizardry.

Well the lasers we're powerful enough to melt someone's face so surely they'd so something against the bugs.

I don't remember this at all? In the version I have, the targets fire lasers which 'shock' people or some such, and the troopers have regular rifles. The chick gets hit by one, spasms, pulls the trigger on her rifle , which blows the head off the other guy.

 

[Omega NZ]

Not sure if this counts as a plot hole but...

Spoiler

In Persona 4, out of the four main antagonists (Mitsuo Kubo, Taro Namatame, Tohru Adachi, and possibly Ameno-sagiri) we later find out that, pretty much out of nowhere, the gas station attendant is the mastermind behind the entire game, being the goddess Izanami in disguise. I don't know how some people arrived at that conclusion...despite this though I'm still a big fan of the series.

 

[Kilaknux]

Not to mention: WHY THE HELL does every vampire/demon/bad thing come to Sunnydale?

Because the Hellmouth is in Sunnydale.

Fine. But why stay there? Why not wander off and actually do something effectual?

Plus, these are supposed to be demons. Surely they have the ability to plan things out better than "Ok, so I jump out in this town and do random stuff til I get sent back to hell".

the same can be asked of any batman or spiderman villan. neither seem to leave their respective home town

As far as comic characters go, this can be explained: Superheroes are everywhere! Every city, state and nation has their own superpowered dude to protect them. Leaving wouldn't do them any good.

 

[Pharoah103090]

In RPGs, you can get shot, disemboweled, anything and sleeping can cure you. Also, if you die in a cutscene, you can't be revived.

sorry, don't know how to do the whole hidden spoiler thingy, so until I do...


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I'll take one pick from this wide array with the popular Shin Megami Tensei Persona 3 (Where Greyjack72's avatar hails from). Main character Shinjiro Aragaki, who mind you is probably the biggest bad ass the game has to offer, is only with your party a whole moth before dieing in a cut scene. Well the fact is in that game you face all sorts of things that shoot: fire, ice, lightning, air, and even bullets. Not to mention the number of blades, hammers, and claws you have to deal with. However, these come from demonic creatures, and the bullet that kills Shinjiro is from a basic six-shot revolver. I know this is a typical plothole, but Personas 3 and 4 have won my heart, and to find a plothole big enough for half of Mexico to sneak through pops up, I get a little ticked off.

 

[UberMore]

Watch an episode of Buffy. So if Angel is ever happy, right, he turns evil. But he loves Buffy. So, he's happy when around her. The thing just says they can't have sex. Apparently sex is the only way to true happiness.

Not to mention: WHY THE HELL does every vampire/demon/bad thing come to Sunnydale? Why not try to take over/destroy/whatever the world from, say New York... or the middle of a desert?

True. Plus there's another Hellmouth in Conneticut, or somewhere (can't remember, along time ago) and a few more dotted around the place.
And if for a long time there's only One Slayer, how the Hell (pun!) did the other places survive that also had Hellmouths?