Bioshock and Oblivion for xbox? Bout time I got em.

[Onyx Oblivion]

Oblivion.

[HEADING=1]DO NOT POWER LEVEL.[/HEADING]
Enemy scaling means that it you level up too fast, your equipment and offensive skills will be underpowered. Just let your skills level with NATURAL use, and you'll do fine until at least level 20.

Don't do an archer. Just don't. For your first character, go basic. Go warrior. Archers are very underpowered unless properly played. And mages work best once you understand where to buy the right spells, and the best way to combine them.

If you find you are having trouble, don't be afraid to lower the difficulty. Of course, the game is piss easy with the difficulty all the way down.

TAKE RESTORATION AS A MAJOR SKILL. There is no character in the game that doesn't benefit from this.

Don't use the pre-made classes. They are all flawed, with messes up specializations and stats.

I recommend this as a starting class:

Race: Male Nord

Birthsign: The Mage

Class: Name-It-What-You-Want

Specialization: Combat

Two stats it will ask for:

Strength
Intelligence (the extra 10 MP is nice, since Int won't level much on it's own as a Warrior)

Skills:

Armorer
Blade
Block
Heavy Armor
Restoration (I went Nord because it gets +5 Restoration.)
Merchantile (more money from sales is always nice.)
Illusion (Charming, light, night vision and invisibility are things everyone benefits from.)

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

Get Oblivion, dont get bioshcok.

Well it's a bundle for like....a tenner or something.

Split it then

No love for bioshock eh?

 

[zHellas]

Okay so as the title clearly states imma gettin bioshock and oblivion for xbox, years after the came out. I've been looking forward to them for ages but i didn't have money lol.
But are there any things that people would recommend doing/not doing?
Cause I just wanna milk the best experience possible from these,seemingly, amazing games.

Bioshock: Don't look for spoilers. Just play through it.

Oblivion: Haven't got really into it, so I suggest following other people's advice on it.

 

[Numachuka]

Okay so as the title clearly states imma gettin bioshock and oblivion for xbox, years after the came out. I've been looking forward to them for ages but i didn't have money lol.
But are there any things that people would recommend doing/not doing?
Cause I just wanna milk the best experience possible from these,seemingly, amazing games.

I would recommend getting them on PC.

 

[ArcWinter]

For Oblivion, qet Shiverinq Isles. It's better than the oriqinal qame.

For Bioshock, start on Medium and use the wrench to its fullest potential, as in, kill everythinq except Biq Daddies with it.

they are both qreat qames but oblivion is better on the pc trust me it is called midas maqic

 

[Death_Korps_Kommissar]

For Oblivion, qet Shiverinq Isles. It's better than the oriqinal qame.

For Bioshock, start on Medium and use the wrench to its fullest potential, as in, kill everythinq except Biq Daddies with it.

they are both qreat qames but oblivion is better on the pc trust me it is called midas maqic

But what if my pc is a god awful piece of unreliable crap?

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Bioshock: TURN OFF THE ARROW GUIDE. It greatly compromises the game's sense of exploration and environment. I spent about the first half of my play through being lead all about by that golden bastard. Once I turned it off, the game felt completely different. I had to pay attention to my direction and location, and I had to actually explore the environments for myself. Plus I was actually looking at all of the beautifully rendered architecture instead of a simple floating icon at the top of the screen.

Oblivion: read up on character creation/development a bit, but don't obsess over it. You don't want to find yourself 20-30 hours in with a total gimp, but you don't want to ruin the game for yourself with power leveling and all the idiotic behavior it inspires. Oh, and ignore the main quest. Don't even start it.

 

[fenixkane]

Get Oblivion for PC. The sheer number of mods plus the Unofficial patches add so much value it's ridiculous. Any half decent computer built within the last 4 years can run Oblivion.
Heck I could build one that runs it at high graphics for $300 easy.
And if you were to only get one mod, Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul would be it (technically it incorporates a bunch of mods but it's all one simple installer). Also Darnified UI is really good.

 

[C117]

anc[is]For oblivion, security (lockpicking) is completely worthless. The little mini game is really easy once you get used to it

I second this. And IF you think it is difficult, you should complete Nocturnal's (one of the daedric lords) quest, since that will give you an unbreakable lockpick. Or learn Open Lock-magic.

 

[DustyDrB]

A tip for Oblivion: choose a build that makes the game interesting to you. Yeah, having 100% Chameleon and 3 billion damage area of effect magic attacks will make you powerful, but it also makes the game ridiculously easy and boring.

Hand-to-hand combat is my favorite way to go.

There is a difficulty slider for the game. And considering the fact that the game levels up along with your character, it's not cheap to slide it down if you need to. I prefer to start higher and make it go down (though I stop going down at a point) as I level up. It makes it feels as though I'm truly being rewarded for leveling.

No tips for BioShock. I couldn't handle that game.

 

[Nmil-ek]

Get oblivion for the PC even if you only have a mediocre machine the x-box version is so radically inferior it almost hurts to see people buy it.

 

[Deacon Cole]

My personal experiences with these game are limited to the PC versions. But I will say that Bioshock is a game I still bring out and play once in a while while waiting for my Farmville crops to grow. Oblivion is no longer installed on my computer.

There is no need for any hints in Bioshock. Even a brain dead thickie like myself can get through it. If you're more experienced, you'll probably want to shut off the hints and such since you won't need them. Beyond that, drink in the environments and explore. Play it and replay it.

I didn't like Oblivion nearly as much. I didn't even play it long enough to escape from prison. Well, I did escape, technically. I was just still underground.

I think comparing these two games in interesting as Oblivion has a lot of fiddly bullshit such as collecting gum wrappers and bits of twine to craft items as well as shit like weapon condition, (e.g. very fine axe, dull and rusted short sword). Bioshock has some of this but it's not as pervasive nor does the game spring it all on you at once. So, Bioshock is a good intro to the fiddly bullshit typical in RPGs while Oblivion is just full of typical fiddly RPG bullshit. Bioshock is considered "dumbed down" by many RPG fans, but I disagree. I think of it more that the focus is less on the fiddly bullshit and more on actually playing the game. That is, you don't waste time on weapon mods or comparing the shotguns in some weapon shop to see if you should buy a replacement with a slightly higher damage range as much as pointing your shotgun at gibbering mutants and making them fall down in a pool of their own gravy.

So twix the two, it's a matter of whether you're already an RPG fan or not. If you are, you'll likely find more of the fiddly bullshit you love in Oblivion while Bioshock just has a different environment. If you're not an RPG fan, you should probably try Bioshock first as it eases you into a somewhat simplified version of the fiddly bullshit than Oblivion does.

I will give this much away: when playing Bioshock there's the whole collecting adam business by murdering little girls. I found the attempt to tug my emotional heart strings lacking. Basically, you can save the girls which will lead to the "good" (yawn) ending or you can kill them, get the bad ending, and get more adam. But, if you save them, you will occasionally get a bonus pack with additional adam and other goodies. So the loss in adam is balanced out, but only if you don't mix and match. So if you're going to save the girls, save all of them to get the bonus.

This means playing the game through twice. But, if you like the game as much as I did, that's not a chore.

 

[Altorin]

now, my old cynical view would have said "NOT OBLIVION FOR THE XBOX!!"

however, I have since mellowed on the "Oblivion Vanilla totally sucks" bandwagon

Modding the game is much BETTER, but if you get into the right Exploratory mindset, Vanilla Oblivion can be really fun.

And there is NO problem with Bioshock on the 360, except for the slight glitch with the "turn off Vitachambers" DLC. (If you ever get good enough to attempt the secret "Beat it on the hardest difficulty without using Vitachambers" achievement, there are plenty of short little guides on how to fix the glitch)

Have fun, just make sure you're in an Oblivion Frame of mind when playing oblivion (in otherwords, don't anticipate a great hand holding storyline.. you sort of have to explore and make up your own story as you go along)

 

[ArcWinter]

For Oblivion, qet Shiverinq Isles. It's better than the oriqinal qame.

For Bioshock, start on Medium and use the wrench to its fullest potential, as in, kill everythinq except Biq Daddies with it.

they are both qreat qames but oblivion is better on the pc trust me it is called midas maqic

But what if my pc is a god awful piece of unreliable crap?

Uh....
Well, you could buy or construct a new one.
If that fails, then you can just play qames on your Xbox.

I didn't like Oblivion nearly as much. I didn't even play it long enough to escape from prison. Well, I did escape, technically. I was just still underground.

I think comparing these two games in interesting as Oblivion has a lot of fiddly bullshit such as collecting gum wrappers and bits of twine to craft items as well as shit like weapon condition, (e.g. very fine axe, dull and rusted short sword)... That is, you don't waste time on weapon mods or comparing the shotguns in some weapon shop to see if you should buy a replacement with a slightly higher damage range as much as pointing your shotgun at gibbering mutants and making them fall down in a pool of their own gravy.

So twix the two, it's a matter of whether you're already an RPG fan or not. If you are, you'll likely find more of the fiddly bullshit you love in Oblivion while Bioshock just has a different environment. If you're not an RPG fan, you should probably try Bioshock first as it eases you into a somewhat simplified version of the fiddly bullshit than Oblivion does.

See, Oblivion doesn't actually have weapon condition in the qame. There is also no item craftinq, the closest one qets is enchantinq items, which is hardly "fiddly". By your mention of qibberinq mutants and shotquns, I am qoinq to assume you are mistakinq the qame for Fallout 3, which is made by the same company.

The main differences between Oblivion and Bioshock are mainly the contrast between Bioshock's linear qameplay vs Oblivion's wide-open explorable world and Bioshock's limited weapon & plasmid choice vs Oblivion's larqe weapon selection and huqe spell repertoire. They are both awesome qames, but they are two totally different types of RPQs. Oblivion is more exploration-focused and Bioshock is more story-focused.

when in doubt, do the easiest thinq possible, also qo left

 

[BodomBeachChild]

Purchase the System Shock series instead of Bioshock. And buy Oblivion for PC. It feels much better. And once you've done everything possible the modding community is always there.

 

[DustyDrB]

I love how people are so hard-headed about telling him to buy Oblivion for the PC when he clearly says he's getting it for the 360 alongside with BioShock for 10 bucks. If his PC can't run it, he probably doesn't want to spend a ton of extra money. Geeeeeez

 

[Ascarus]

Those people are idiots.
Hit them.

I have 100 Stealth and some boosts for it, and now I can literally run into people without them knowing.

A cheaty way of doing it is getting 100% chameleon. Basically wins you the game (Was doable on P.C last time I checked, maybe they've changed it?)

those people ARE idiots. i generally thought it was a consensus that stealth and chameleon were overpowered. but i agree completely ... once i got over 50% chameleon the game became a cake walk. it's almost god mode. and as far as i know you can still get to 100%, but i haven't played in a long while.

and with bioshock, you really can't go wrong i don't think. getting enough ADAM to get the "necessary" plasmids is pretty easy to do regardless of the path you take in the game. and it has one of the most atmospheric and interesting environments and well thought out back stories of any game, ever. the game play got repetitive to me, but it was easy to overlook since the world was so interesting.

and i also agree with the person who said to avoid spoilers ... although that may be hard given how long the game has been out at this point.

 

[Kurokami]

Okay so as the title clearly states imma gettin bioshock and oblivion for xbox, years after the came out. I've been looking forward to them for ages but i didn't have money lol.
But are there any things that people would recommend doing/not doing?
Cause I just wanna milk the best experience possible from these,seemingly, amazing games.

Just remember that in oblivion, leveling isn't necessarily a good thing. Sure you gain some stats, but the rest of the monsters around evolve too. (Meaning don't take whatever levels you up fastest, just stick to what interests you imo)

Also, the Dark Brotherhood is freaking awesome.

 

[Netrigan]

Bioshock: TURN OFF THE ARROW GUIDE. It greatly compromises the game's sense of exploration and environment. I spent about the first half of my play through being lead all about by that golden bastard. Once I turned it off, the game felt completely different. I had to pay attention to my direction and location, and I had to actually explore the environments for myself. Plus I was actually looking at all of the beautifully rendered architecture instead of a simple floating icon at the top of the screen.

Or you could just ignore the arrow unless you're stuck. Half the time I don't even realize they have those little helpful hints in a game.