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Tony2077

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if it adds more no death endings i may get it otherwise my character is dead heroic sacrifice and all that. one down side i see is if the end changes to much we may get more whiny fanboys speaking up.
 

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This just takes the fucking cake.


Day one dlcs, crappy rpg elements, sub par writing quality. And what gets these fanboys to move their asses? A shitty 5 minute cinematic. All because there's no shack up mini game at the end of the series.

God help us if they charge people for it.(which we know they will) I wont stand for that screwy shit either. Then again, maybe I shouldn't even give a shit? Maybe I should let you guys indulge for once. Let's see how much money EA games can pilfer.


This news is disappointing.

We understand that you don't like Mass Effect 3. The things you say are deliberately said in such a way that anyone that liked the game is pissed off and then when they proceed to reply back you call them a fanboy. We get that you don't like the game and you are entitled to your opinion but can you please just leave people who liked the game and wish to discuss it alone. Why don't you go find a topic or make a topic about a game that you like and leave the rest of us alone. Please and thank you
 

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Zeel said:
boag said:
I am glad that they are taking notice of the customer dissatisfaction, but I am wary of what they are promising, I will not buy the DLC until other people have reviewed it and posted it on youtube. I would like to see more people follow this line of thought.

Because this
Hudson said the game had been designed with a series of endings to key plots to allow players to "carry the knowledge of these consequences with you as you complete the final moments of your journey."
sounds like half a statement.
You're going to give them money? Are you serious? JUST THREE DAYS AGO you were saying how you were "DONE WITH BIOWARE"

this is what I mean by flakey fanboys. Honest to fucking god had Bioware showed a little spine on this issue, they all would've forgotten. As it stands, if they keep burping the baby. The baby is going to want to be fed eventually.
hey why don't you make a topic about a game you like so we can insult you for it
 

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the last time bioware listened to the fans they made a raptor alien romance-able, but those are the fans saying it was all a dream and not the ones raging against bioware, so maybe they wont cock it up. of course, if they charge for it, they are revealing their absolutely fucking disgusting scheme of holding the proper ending of a game for ransom, and of course you little money-dispensers are going to buy right into it and tell them that it is a sound business plan.

really, the "change the ending" campaign should become the "dont buy ME3" campaign. THAT would have a real impact.
 

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You know, I tried to accept the endings to Mass Effect 3. But thinking about it now, they really were kinda bad. The endings really were all the same, save some minor differences. Plus the whole starchild thing was pretty stupid when taken into consideration. Not to mention the ending was just way to open for the series to end on. What happened to the rest of the galaxy? What did my choices do to it? Did Garrus, Tali and the others survive? Did Wrex keep all the other krogans from causing another rebellion?

I just didn't really want to believe it. But now I'm going to stop being in denial about the endings and hope this DLC makes up for them. The Mass Effect games to me were great games, and it would be a real shame for the series to end on such a sour note.
 

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Zeel said:
erttheking said:
Zeel said:
This just takes the fucking cake.


Day one dlcs, crappy rpg elements, sub par writing quality. And what gets these fanboys to move their asses? A shitty 5 minute cinematic. All because there's no shack up mini game at the end of the series.

God help us if they charge people for it.(which we know they will) I wont stand for that screwy shit either. Then again, maybe I shouldn't even give a shit? Maybe I should let you guys indulge for once. Let's see how much money EA games can pilfer.


This news is disappointing.
Oh yeah, god forbid that we be satisfied with the rest of the game and not with the ending, god forbid that we criticize them for not giving us what they promised us, and god forbid that they actually respond. And again you drop the word fanboy, do I have to look up the princess bride meme again? Seriously you use that word at the drop of a hat, I seriously think that you're just spouting it off at random at everything ME related.
They didn't give you what they promised the WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE GAME.

"Choices that impact the story" where, pray tell is that? Please man. Can you show me where that promise is kept?

"Enhanced RPG elements" Huh? Finding the RPG elements are like playing a game of Waldo.

So don't give me this minor shit about the ending. The ending was the least of that games problems.
Choices that impact the game, well there's the whole bit with the Krogan and the Quarians. If you didn't save Maleon's data from ME2 Eve dies when Mordin perfects the cure. Also if Wrex dies in the first game and Eve dies too Wreav will be left in charge of the Krogan, implying that things are going to get ugly in the future. Of course that doesn't come to anything because of the ENDING! Also if you didn't do at least two of the following in ME2 (Prevent Tali from getting exiled, destroy the heretic Geth, use charm/renegade to talk Legion and Tali down) you will be unable to make peace between the Quarians and the Geth. Also there's helping that bartender in ME1 who in turn prevents Conrad Verner from getting shot, running into David from Overlord on the station where Jack teaches, and while I'm thinking about it, every last squatemate that you save from ME2 shows up and impacts the story in ME3 in some way, be it stopping the assassination of the Salarian Counciler, fighting to save some renegade Cerberus scientists and making the peace with Krogan Geth and Quarians actually possible.

RPG elements, I seem to recall leveling up where half of the upgrades for each of your powers made your chose between two separate ones, giving different powers, customizing your guns in a variety of ways from scopes to decreased recoil to increased damage to extended magazines, and let's not forget the MASSIVE amount of different weapons in Mass Effect 3, all of whom have a different feel to it, so in my opinion if ME3 has bad RPG elements then the first two games had even worse elements because it completely skullfucks them in that department. Yeah ME1 might have technically had a bigger customization factor, but it was tedious, all about getting numbers as high as possible, and all the guns felt copy pasted. Also why the Hell do I need 8 abilities when I can only use one before they ALL have to cool down? It's stupid, four is enough.

So yeah, minus the ending, the game was awesome.
 

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Did he really say that? The article seems to quote this statement [http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/324/index/10089946] but he never explicitly says that they'll extend the ending of ME3.
I guess it's this part
Casey Hudson said:
So where do we go from here? Throughout the next year, we will support Mass Effect 3 by working on new content. And we?ll keep listening, because your insights and constructive feedback will help determine what that content should be. This is not the last you?ll hear of Commander Shepard.
which could be interpreted that they'll extend the ending but he could also just mean some pre-ending DLC.
As far as I know, they're still saying that they listen to feedback but haven't decided yet. Maybe I missed something but for know, I'll believe it when I see an official statement from them.
 

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Zeel said:
Me2 and Me3 are just dumbed down, casual shit that only pandered to the Halo fucktard and call of duty losers. While making sure that we could have sex with MORE NPCS!!12!@1
So people who like Halo and Call of Duty are fucktards and losers to you? God forbid someone would actually enjoy shooters!
 

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Let my Shepard live, let my Shepard live, let my Shepard live, please, please, please. My Shepard, Tali and everyone else in my crew allowed to live because I have the max war assets would be greatly appreciated. Please.

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OT: that article doesn't necessarily mean a new ending, just more content like Overlord I'm guessing. This isn't really new information
 

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Zeel said:
scorptatious said:
Zeel said:
Me2 and Me3 are just dumbed down, casual shit that only pandered to the Halo fucktard and call of duty losers. While making sure that we could have sex with MORE NPCS!!12!@1
So people who like Halo and Call of Duty are fucktards and losers to you? God forbid someone would actually enjoy shooters!
They just need to stay the hell away from RPG games. I can't count how many shooter games are released monthly. Why must they infect my genre? do I go to their genre and ask for shit like 'dialogue choice'?

No, everyone would think I'm a pompous prick. But they get away with doing the same to my FAVOURITE genre. It's absolutely sickening.
You mean they don't think you're one now?

I can agree to some extent about how some genres don't mix well together. But to me the Mass Effect games manage to mix both RPG and Shooter elements together pretty well.

If you don't like it don't play it. There's no reason going on here and constantly whining and shouting about it. Along with insulting people who disagree with you. It's just aggravating.
 

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Zeel said:
scorptatious said:
Zeel said:
Me2 and Me3 are just dumbed down, casual shit that only pandered to the Halo fucktard and call of duty losers. While making sure that we could have sex with MORE NPCS!!12!@1
So people who like Halo and Call of Duty are fucktards and losers to you? God forbid someone would actually enjoy shooters!
They just need to stay the hell away from RPG games. I can't count how many shooter games are released monthly. Why must they infect my genre? do I go to their genre and ask for shit like 'dialogue choice'?

No, everyone would think I'm a pompous prick. But they get away with doing the same to my FAVOURITE genre. It's absolutely sickening.
its my favorite genre as well but you don't see me whiny about it
 

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I would like to have an intelligent conversation with you Zeel. Without using an agressive tone, the words 'fanboy', 'whiners', 'entitled' or any other offensive language please provide us with clear reasons you believe that Mass Effect 3 is a step down from the rest of the series.

Aside from the ending where do you think they drop the ball with story?

What 'RPG Elements' do you believe have been removed?

What do you think made the original game the best?

Why do you have a problem with fans of a game defending it but call anyone who criticizes it something rude?

Also, I would be interested in hearing what games you like. From all off your posts I have scene there really has not been an endorsement of any game, just rudeness towards fans and creators.

Capatcha: Heartache. The feeling of ME fans around the world.
 

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Zeel said:
erttheking said:
Zeel said:
erttheking said:
Zeel said:
This just takes the fucking cake.


Day one dlcs, crappy rpg elements, sub par writing quality. And what gets these fanboys to move their asses? A shitty 5 minute cinematic. All because there's no shack up mini game at the end of the series.

God help us if they charge people for it.(which we know they will) I wont stand for that screwy shit either. Then again, maybe I shouldn't even give a shit? Maybe I should let you guys indulge for once. Let's see how much money EA games can pilfer.


This news is disappointing.
Oh yeah, god forbid that we be satisfied with the rest of the game and not with the ending, god forbid that we criticize them for not giving us what they promised us, and god forbid that they actually respond. And again you drop the word fanboy, do I have to look up the princess bride meme again? Seriously you use that word at the drop of a hat, I seriously think that you're just spouting it off at random at everything ME related.
They didn't give you what they promised the WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE GAME.

"Choices that impact the story" where, pray tell is that? Please man. Can you show me where that promise is kept?

"Enhanced RPG elements" Huh? Finding the RPG elements are like playing a game of Where is Waldo.

So don't give me this minor shit about the ending. The ending was the least of that games problems.
Choices that impact the game, well there's the whole bit with the Krogan and the Quarians. If you didn't save Maleon's data from ME2 Eve dies when Mordin perfects the cure. Also if Wrex dies in the first game and Eve dies too Wreav will be left in charge of the Krogan, implying that things are going to get ugly in the future. Of course that doesn't come to anything because of the ENDING! Also if you didn't do at least two of the following in ME2 (Prevent Tali from getting exiled, destroy the heretic Geth, use charm/renegade to talk Legion and Tali down) you will be unable to make peace between the Quarians and the Geth. Also there's helping that bartender in ME1 who in turn prevents Conrad Verner from getting shot, running into David from Overlord on the station where Jack teaches, and while I'm thinking about it, every last squatemate that you save from ME2 shows up and impacts the story in ME3 in some way, be it stopping the assassination of the Salarian Counciler, fighting to save some renegade Cerberus scientists and making the peace with Krogan Geth and Quarians actually possible.

RPG elements, I seem to recall leveling up where half of the upgrades for each of your powers made your chose between two separate ones, giving different powers, customizing your guns in a variety of ways from scopes to decreased recoil to increased damage to extended magazines, and let's not forget the MASSIVE amount of different weapons in Mass Effect 3, all of whom have a different feel to it, so in my opinion if ME3 has bad RPG elements then the first two games had even worse elements because it completely skullfucks them in that department. Yeah ME1 might have technically had a bigger customization factor, but it was tedious, all about getting numbers as high as possible, and all the guns felt copy pasted. Also why the Hell do I need 8 abilities when I can only use one before they ALL have to cool down? It's stupid, four is enough.

So yeah, minus the ending, the game was awesome.
Wait a minute. It sounds like you're suggesting that minor consequences to the story are "good enough" change. If thats the case, then you should have no problem with the ending. Clearly the endings are littered with small changes depending on your EMS score. So whats the problem here?

Oh wait, you're being a big hypocrite.

Plus don't give me the Wrex and the genophage shit. As if that even matters when they just copy paste a new council. Spawned a new rachni queen and whatever nonsense I'm missing. Sorry, it doesn't cut it. The renegade path got royally screwed. It was like we were playing a disadvantaged paragon. I don't know why Bioware even included the option if they weren't going to follow through. I want my HUMAN RUN COUNCIL. Like i was fucking promised!

Seriously all the little points that you list do not matter one iota. They don't change the plot at all. Oh yay, I get to watch thane stop the assassin instead of Major Kirrahe? Will wonders never fucking cease. It's a subpar resolution. And if you have the balls to complain about the ending, which was only five minutes long. Than the ENTIRE GAME should've been an issue to you.

All you did was point out ONE RPG element that was enhanced and still no where near the Mass effect 1 level. The new lveling system is a welcomed change. But you know what didn't have to happen? The fucking gutting of the dialogue system, the morality system and the freaking stupid as shit auto-dialogue. Just because one MINOR element got improved. doesn't mean the rest of the elements didn't get completely boned.

And of course a HALO fanboy would mention the "NEW WEP CUSTOMIZATION' WHOOO!! I don't really understand why that was such a big fucking deal. it's just slapping two of five choices. It's not revolutionary. Again, Mass effect 1 had a PLETHORA of weapons and armor and customization. How can you even begin the argument that ME3 has more rpg elements than 1? You're just lying.
Wow, you insulted me because I'm a Halo fan...again...do you enjoy going for the low fruit because you have a hard time coming up with insults?

What can I say, I didn't play renegade because I don't get my jollies out of being a total ass to anyone so I can't comment on that. Although from what I read, if you kill the Rachni in ME1 and release the new on in ME3, it turns out that she's been indoctrinated and severely damages the crucible, decreasing your war assets. So there you go, also saying that I had no problems with differences and therefor should have no problems with the endings, implies that the ending actually had DIFFERENCES BESIDES DIFFERENT COLORED EXPLOSIONS! Also these differences can hardly be considered small, a long running character living or dying is not small difference, be it Conrad Verner dying because you didn't help that bartender all the way back in ME1, be it the Salarian Major because Thane is dead or be it Eve because you didn't take Maelon's data. Also maybe there's no Human run council, because the Reapers are fucking Humanity over and the aliens are stepping back into place...just throwing it out there. Also I love how you say "don't give me that Wrex and the Genophage shit" and then just move on like you made a point. I also like how you glossed over the Quarians and the Geth.

Oh yeah, apparently my taste has something to do with my testicles, Zeel your logic never fails to make me smack my forehead. The dialogue got toned down, because people were constantly complaining that they were being forced down either pure Paragon or Renegade paths in order to get the best endings. To quote Yahtzee "when you're given the option to free a race of slaves or make them dance for money, you're not thinking, 'what would I do in this situation' you're thinking, 'which option gives me the most points because I need them to make crew woman A take her top off" To be honest, I didn't miss that one bit. As for the scripted dialogue, I actually thought that it was pretty good. The romance scenes were excellent, the crew interacting made them come to life and I'm not forgetting Garrus and Shepard shooting bottles off of the Presidium any time soon. Then again you're probably going to berate me for that because you still don't know the definition of the word "opinion"

Also while there were indeed a massive amount of guns in ME1, they were all the same except for colors and stats, so all it was going was cycling through them to find the one with the best stats then offload a hundred guns at the store. You didn't care which gun was which because all you care about was the stats, they all felt the same so you might as well have been using the same gun that got better stats through the whole game. ME3 guns actually have different feels, feels that are given even more variety by the weapon mods, so you'll spend a little bit of time deciding which one you actually want to use instead of just seeing which one does the most damage, I'm pretty sure you're in the minority on this one.

Oh yeah and one more thing, I know I'm repeating myself but calling me a Halo fanboy just smells of bias, desperation and "I cannot think of anything better to insult you with so I will use the word fanboy even though I have used it in 1/3 of my posts because I can't think of anything else to say." Also "you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means"

Also you criticized a guy earlier for being excited about the DLC when days earlier he said that he was done with ME3. Well you clearly played the game yourself, despite I seem to recall you saying that EA was getting a cent from you, so either you bought the game, you're friends with someone that owns the game and therefore you are friends with someone who gave EA money, or you pirated it. Either way, I wouldn't talk if I were you.