Edgeless said:While it should be obvious I am going to point out that, video games don't come into exist through magic. It took quite a few people countless hours to work up the DLC, and those people don't work for free. They like every other human being need to eat and therefore need to get paid. Money doesn't appear out of nowhere via magic either so in order to pay the developers for the few extra months of work they put into the DLC after the game was finished EA is charging 10 dollar for said DLC.dystopiaINC said:But if it's all ready to go and is shipping with the game anyway, why not include it as a free piece of content?Edgeless said:no it was not on the disk, it is something that was made after the full game was sent off for all the other things like burning to disc and packaging, so basically several months ago when the Developers are just sitting around with the game finished, they went about making EXTRA content.
It's ready when the game comes out, if they have the power to ship it with the CE's, they should be able to include it with the normals.
CE purchasers are also not getting it for free last I check CE copies of ME3 cost quit a bit more then a standard copy so basically CE purchasers paid in advance for said DLC plus a bunch of other shit.
Nah, I very much doubt Bioware has any control over their release schedules, or when they issue a press statement like this. Bioware may be developing the game, but this is a really important product for EA and they'll be pulling the strings of this as much as they possibly can... when it comes to releases, DLC, the particular limited and special editions and announcements, and marketing, it's all on EA. It's sort of their job as publisher.SajuukKhar said:People need to stop saying everything is Ea's fault when this is for the most part bioware'sAndy of Comix Inc said:My issues with this are: Bioware rewarding "true fans" by punishing other people's common sense. (Aren't "true" Mass Effect fans the ones that didn't like the sequel, anyway?)
Day 1 DLC that's included with some copies of the game and not others, despite being brand new. If this was a Project Ten Dollar sort of deal it'd be sound, but instead it offers limited chances to get it when you buy it.
And, the siphoning of resources of what could be in the game into "optional extra content". I understand that once a game is finished you have so much to do beyond QA, and you'll have, say, an art department sitting around twiddling their thumbs. But if they use their time to make DLC that's available day and date with the release of the game itself, I see no reason they couldn't ship that with the game itself. If it was a substantial amount of work, it wouldn't be ready for Day 1 and people would feel okay with paying $10 for it. But it's not, it's one character; it's being neglected from people who buy the game new and then charging them for it.
Indeed, people who are arguing "it's optional content" aren't getting the fucking point. That kind of content is the kind of stuff you should include on the disc, then. If it didn't take that many resources, time, development costs or manpower, then isn't charging for it a bit of a swindle? Likewise, wouldn't a mission pack released, say, a month after release, for a similar price, be absolutely fine? Go the BF3 route - promise DLC to CE buyers after release.
I'm not pleased with EA defending their choice like this; I feel they're digging themselves a deeper hole. And I'm not surprised people are outraged. I'm similarly surprised people are defending EA. But, at the same time, it doesn't bother me so much that I'll go up in arms about it. I'll just not buy the game like I was planning to and move on to better products. The perpetual argument needs to stop; if you think this DLC is worth the money, you'll buy it. ...but don't say that EA did the right thing. They just did a thing. By defending their decision as "for the fans," then yes, I feel those fans who are left out are entitled to something.
The fact that you seem to believe you are entitled to content developed AFTER the game went gold and has NOTHING to do with the storyline is all I need point out.. as I'm sure several others throughout this millionth incarnation of this thread have already done before me.Zeel said:Sense of entitlement. Do you want to elaborate or is this just a hit and run tactic?Kroxile said:People mad, People mad everywhere.
Shoulda got the CE. I know I did.
In all seriousness, chill the fuck out. Whine, *****, piss, and moan all you want but at the end of the day you're wrong and your sense of entitlement won't make you right.
Even though I find that picture amusing, it's very naieve to think like that. What if (in 1999) they already developed the first expansion pack alongside the original game? What if (the last "now" picture), the game is bigger than the 1999 game, including it's two expansions? What if a $15 expansion pack has the same amount of content as the $30 expansion pack?Yosharian said:I'd just like to add this:
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That pretty much sums up what I think of this situation.
Ok, since I don't give a shit enough to do all the research on what date what happened and when, you probably have me there, but my point still remains: The DLC was developed AFTER the original game was completed therefore you don't deserve the DLC for "free" because you didn't buy the CE. Pony up, or shut up.Zeel said:Okay, see. Lets discuss this. The game went gold Feburary 13th. The dlc was revealed feburary 8th.Kroxile said:The fact that you seem to believe you are entitled to content developed AFTER the game went gold and has NOTHING to do with the storyline is all I need point out.. as I'm sure several others throughout this millionth incarnation of this thread have already done before me.Zeel said:Sense of entitlement. Do you want to elaborate or is this just a hit and run tactic?Kroxile said:People mad, People mad everywhere.
Shoulda got the CE. I know I did.
In all seriousness, chill the fuck out. Whine, *****, piss, and moan all you want but at the end of the day you're wrong and your sense of entitlement won't make you right.
Seriously, be more butthurt bro. Its actually pretty funny.
So am I "entitled" to yet? Cause the game didn't go gold yet.