BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC

[Daystar Clarion]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

Oh pshaw, everyone knows Bob Dylan loves himself some Pineapple chunks.

Can you prove that? Afterall, you are not the Mighty Zeel.

Mere mortals like us must provide proof, our word is simply not enough.

It is truly a terrible burden we carry.

 

[SajuukKhar]

If the removal of content doesn't change how much sense the story makes, or how it progresses, how can you say it was important or there to begin with?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

 

[anthony87]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]this?

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

You know even less about me than that ***** I drowned in the river.

I like that.

You get found out so you go from "troll who believes what he's saying" to just "straight up troll"

 

[Daystar Clarion]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

You know even less about me than that ***** I drowned in the river. Don't pretend to be all illuminate now. Stay on topic or get out.

Please don't kill me Zeel. I'm sorry, I'll pay you money, is it money you want?

I didn't know, Zeel!

[HEADING=1]I didn't know![/HEADING]

 

[gigastar]

First of all Zeel i think ill start by congratulating you on how you have somehow managed to keep a debate going for 28 hours, seemingly without rest.

Now for the bit i feel i want to comment on.

You can not be that bloody naive. EA games is a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE producer of games. If this trend continues how much do you think I'm going to lose in the future? Games I'm interested in will cost almost twice as much just to have the 'privilege' of the full experience. I will draw the line here, atleast if we fail then I know i didn't rollover quietly like some people.

You kind of crossed a fundamental rule of the internet there. That being you assume that random, anonymous will people care about your problems, actual or theoretical. (Underlined relevant portion of quote)

But thats not my main point.

My main point is that people will pay for what they think is worth it. If you dont think its worth it, simply dont buy it and leave people to festoon in what you seem to think is the 'wrong' action.

Besides, after reading your blog posts [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.co.nz/] its kind of hard for you to maintain anything other than a fanboy for whom the butt-hurtedness goes beyond that even of the Megaman fanbase for reasons much lesser in comparison to the Megaman fanbase.

And reading some of your later posts it seems youre now less on about slandering Bioware and Mass Effect 3 than you are about having some sort of conversation.

If youre wondering, yes this is a repost.

 

[anthony87]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

You know even less about me than that ***** I drowned in the river. Don't pretend to be all illuminate now. Stay on topic or get out.

Please don't kill me Zeel. I'm sorry, I'll pay you money, is it money you want?

I didn't know, Zeel!

[HEADING=1]I didn't know![/HEADING]

He flip flops from "drowning bitches" to "staying on topic".

Maybe we're dealing with a split personality?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

You know even less about me than that ***** I drowned in the river. Don't pretend to be all illuminate now. Stay on topic or get out.

Please don't kill me Zeel. I'm sorry, I'll pay you money, is it money you want?

I didn't know, Zeel!

[HEADING=1]I didn't know![/HEADING]

He flip flops from "drowning bitches" to "staying on topic".

Maybe we're dealing with a split personality?

You didn't know? 'Drowning bitches' is the number one main cause of thread derailment in the world.

Right ahead of 'shit, I spilled tea on my keyboard' and 'be right back, some dude just broke into my house'.

 

[wintercoat]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

Oh, c'mon! Zeel's blog is hilarious! Some of the best entertainment on the web. It's like reading Mel Gibson's thought process.

 

[Tony2077]

I'm not the Zeel mentioned, but I do know him, quite the handsom fellow.

yeah keep trying maybe some day we won't see you as a troll but the person that left because his points are now invalid on the ground you don't know more then any of us

 

[Daystar Clarion]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

Oh, c'mon! Zeel's blog is hilarious! Some of the best entertainment on the web. It's like reading Mel Gibson's thought process.

We were never meant to know.

It's like Pandora's Box. Too much power for us mortals to handle.

We'll rue this day.

Rue, I say!

 

[wintercoat]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

Oh, c'mon! Zeel's blog is hilarious! Some of the best entertainment on the web. It's like reading Mel Gibson's thought process.

We were never meant to know.

It's like Pandora's Box. Too much power for us mortals to handle.

We'll rue this day.

Rue, I say!

'Least we'll go out laughing our asses off. Either that, or with one eye brow permanently raised. Or both!

 

[anthony87]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

You know even less about me than that ***** I drowned in the river. Don't pretend to be all illuminate now. Stay on topic or get out.

Please don't kill me Zeel. I'm sorry, I'll pay you money, is it money you want?

I didn't know, Zeel!

[HEADING=1]I didn't know![/HEADING]

He flip flops from "drowning bitches" to "staying on topic".

Maybe we're dealing with a split personality?

You didn't know? 'Drowning bitches' is the number one main cause of thread derailment in the world.

Right ahead of 'shit, I spilled tea on my keyboard' and 'be right back, some dude just broke into my house'.

Don't forget the rare but unfortunate "Shit, I spilled tea on my keyboard because some dude is breaking into my house and now a ***** is drowning in it"

It's a right bastard to clean up when that happens.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

That's all perfectly reasonable.

Well, apart from the fact that day one DLC is an absolute abomination, but there you go.

Why is the release of content they made after the main game was done so abysmal?

If it was somehow conceivably possible for them to make DAO:Awakening in the time between the game was done and the time it came out and they did and then the released it day 1 also I don't think I would have a problem with it.

If they can make the content why not get it out as soon as possible so people can have more to play.

As long as it isn't some uber critical piece of info, which this prothean isn't, it shouldn't matter if it comes out day 1 or day 100.

No one is making you buy it and it isn't required to get a FULL base game.

But it is out there in time for release. Hence the name 'day 1 DLC'.

I'm already buying a product for over £30, I find it absolutely ridiculous that to get the full game I have to shell out another 10 for stuff that, to be honest, does seem bloody important. I, for one, am absolutely sick of this kind of business practice, and will never buy that DLC. This actually changed my mind on the decision of whether to buy the standard edition or CE - I went for the former.

And as much as I hate the slippery slope argument, it really does apply for this subject. I pre-ordered ME3 today, and I watched in horror as some spoilt brat's mum asked a worker in game about Skylanders. Look it up.

Also Zeel why do you call EVERYONE female if you have no idea of their gender?

Who cares? Everyone else assumes male, and 'she' is generally considered more appropriate.

Oh, and before you decide to say any of these rebuttals: I found it stupid when Valve did it with Portal 2 as well, and calling me 'entitled' means absolutely nothing.

But you DON'T have to shell out more money for the DLC.

also you DONT need the DLC for a "full game", the base game as is IS COMPLETE.

Well according to them. We can't wrap our heads around how they have time for new squadmates and missions by day of release but can't give it free with purchase.

Tell me this; If EA games did remove content from the disc how would you know?

People making the accusations are the ones who must provide proof. It doesn't matter that we have no idea whether EA removed content, what matters is that those claiming that they did have the burden of proof.

For example.

Bob Dylan enjoys the taste of pineapple chunks.

Bob Dylan does not have to prove that, in fact, he does not like pineapple chunks.

I have to prove it, using evidence, not writing batshit crazy rhetoric.

What claim do you think I'm making in that post?

I have your attention now?

See this? [http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.com/]

This debunks any impartiality you may have ever had. We know what you are.

You know even less about me than that ***** I drowned in the river. Don't pretend to be all illuminate now. Stay on topic or get out.

Please don't kill me Zeel. I'm sorry, I'll pay you money, is it money you want?

I didn't know, Zeel!

[HEADING=1]I didn't know![/HEADING]

He flip flops from "drowning bitches" to "staying on topic".

Maybe we're dealing with a split personality?

You didn't know? 'Drowning bitches' is the number one main cause of thread derailment in the world.

Right ahead of 'shit, I spilled tea on my keyboard' and 'be right back, some dude just broke into my house'.

Don't forget the rare but unfortunate "Shit, I spilled tea on my keyboard because some dude is breaking into my house and now a ***** is drowning in it"

It's a right bastard to clean up when that happens.

Thank the gods I wasn't drinking tea when I read that, I would have been in some serious trouble.