BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC

[Webb5432]

I don't get it. People are upset because the company is making extra stuff for a game and they have to pay extra for it. It's not like this stuff is locked on the disk or extremely important to the story. Why are people getting upset? If I go out and buy a bicycle, I know that getting spare wheels, better brakes, and a headlight system (not that I want that junk) is going to cost me some extra bucks. But they aren't essential. Why must people get upset about this?

Let's see... would you rather have all the games on earth come with the DLC already installed, but the pricetag adjusted to match the total price? The company is making an extra part of the game for those who want it and are willing to pay for it, and they are NOT giving it for free. In fact, seeing as it's BioWare doing this, I wouldnt take anything for free from them, even if they offered it.

It's extra stuff they are selling. Everyone who is getting mad at this, you're a) not helping the situation by acting like whiny twelve-year-olds, and b) by demanding that your wants be chatered to like spoiled brats, you are not helping the gaming industry. If any company loses its customer base, it'll just find a new one. So grow up and deal with this more maturely.

 

[Sir Prize]

Just as a point, those buying the CE aren't getting it 'for free'. They have to buy the game at a higher price and get extra content in exchange for said higher price...
So why is that so unfair?

I'm a little ticked off because the suppiles ran out, but I can just get it on Live if I want it so badly. I can understand getting ticked off at having to shell out money for things like multi-player or alike, but this DLC is optional. Also, no matter what route you take, you have to pay for it anyway.

I'd almost argue those who got the CE are getting it for free. We agreed to pay $10 for the crap in the package back in December or November or something, and Bioware was like, "Oh, here's some more stuff for you guys." I'm pretty sure the CE sold out months ago, before anyone knew there was free DLC attached to it. Gamers who buy the DLC separately get the same treatment as CE buyers except they're all out of N7 patches and whatnot. It seems pretty fair to me.

I'm asking why people are saying this is unfair, not saying it's unfair.
To me people are getting mad over something that isn't needed and not priced that high. I've seen worse prices, anyone remember the horse armour from Oblivion?

Yes that's probably a more infamous example, but in the point is that if it's not needed for a good game experience then I see no issue. Sure it would be nice to see no first day or CE DLC instead just having the artbooks and alike, but I doubt that's going to happen anytime soon.

This thread has kind of a hostile setting, but I actually meant to agree with you.

The only thing CE users are getting extra are all of the shiny, pointless crap (we treasure), but we technically pay the same for the DLC. I dunno, I just don't feel like this is even worth arguing.

Point taken, I guess it's not for arugments sake, I just can't understand why people get worked up over this. Again if they were pulling this with the multiplayer I'd understand, it's a part of the game that many people are looking forward to. But something as minor as this...it goes right over my head.

 

[Sir Prize]

I'm going to assume that the people who brought thr CE mainly wanted those other things. However I do understand the point, maybe they have overstuffed the CE but it IS a CE and I'd guess it's for the sake of selling more copies.

Well it certainly worked, as the only way to get a copy of it now is digitally.

Also: and as someone who bought the CE, I can tell you I bought it, not just for the extra cosmetic stuff and the free DLC. I bought it because Bioware is my favorite developer, and Mass Effect is one of my favorite series. All that other stuff is just icing on an already delicious cake.

OT: Sorry for posting twice in a row.

True but that's part of my point, some buy it for both the goodies and the DLC. CE is meant to special in a way, limited or for those who really like the series and I can't really dislike Bioware for how it's set-up. I couldn't get it and will probably buy the DCL, since I've spent £7 on worse things.

Point taken, I guess it's not for arugments sake, I just can't understand why people get worked up over this. Again if they were pulling this with the multiplayer I'd understand, it's a part of the game that many people are looking forward to. But something as minor as this...it goes right over my head.

To be perfectly honest it would probably get a lot less attention if they made everyone pay for the multiplayer instead. Which is sad because the multiplayer is a lot of fun.

True, that would be much worse...
I guess it's just that it's Bioware and EA doing it.

 

[Sir Prize]

OT: Sorry for posting twice in a row.

True but that's part of my point, some buy it for both the goodies and the DLC. CE is meant to special in a way, limited or for those who really like the series and I can't really dislike Bioware for how it's set-up. I couldn't get it and will probably buy the DCL, since I've spent £7 on worse things.

I know several people who are doing the exact same. So you're not alone in that .

I'm a big fan of having a big CE, it really rewards the long time fans of the series.

Yea, again I'd like to get CE...but I wasn't quick enough and have to go halves with a sibling who also wants it. That's what I get for sharing a console.

 

[anthony87]

Zeel actually wrote about us in his blog!

I'm so happy!

 

[SajuukKhar]

Zeel actually wrote about us in his blog!

I'm so happy!

Makes you feel warm inside....... or maybe that my stomach exploding.

 

[Tony2077]

Zeel actually wrote about us in his blog!

I'm so happy!

Makes you feel warm inside....... or maybe that my stomach exploding.

its like he think we were defending the game because we like instead of defending it from his insanity

 

[anthony87]

Zeel actually wrote about us in his blog!

I'm so happy!

Makes you feel warm inside....... or maybe that my stomach exploding.

Jesus....after having an actual read though his latest blog post....I mean I figured he was just putting on an act or something but now I'm thinking that he's seriously disturbed.

 

[Tony2077]

Zeel actually wrote about us in his blog!

I'm so happy!

Makes you feel warm inside....... or maybe that my stomach exploding.

Jesus....after having an actual read though his latest blog post....I mean I figured he was just putting on an act or something but now I'm thinking that he's seriously disturbed.

he's like I'd be if i wasn't on my a.d.d drugs speaking of which i should go take them

 

[Xangba]

This thread has created some of the best Mass Effect related pics/captions I've seen. I love it! Anyway I suppose it's all been said, and Zeel is gone, which is sad because I wanted to ask his/her proof that the Prothean is not in the game without DLC. My favorite thing I've seen on here is "burden of proof is on the accuser" so Zeel's accusations are groundless without proof that the Prothean is not in the game at all without DLC. Anyway, this has certainly been entertaining.

 

[anthony87]

This thread has created some of the best Mass Effect related pics/captions I've seen. I love it! Anyway I suppose it's all been said, and Zeel is gone, which is sad because I wanted to ask his/her proof that the Prothean is not in the game without DLC. My favorite thing I've seen on here is "burden of proof is on the accuser" so Zeed's accusations are groundless without proof that the Prothean is not in the game at all without DLC. Anyway, this has certainly been entertaining.

If you had asked him that question the response would've been along the lines of:

"THE LEAKS! THE LEAKS IN NOVMEMBER MENTIONED A PROTHEAN AND BECAUSE THE DLC HAS A PROTHEAN THAT MEANS THEY REMOVED IT FROM THE GAME BECAUSE I SAID SO! YOU'RE STUPID! ADMIT IT! ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!!!!"

Or something like that. Seriously though, many people asked him for his proof and he just kept harping on about that damn plot leak.

 

[JamesStone]

Zeel won't be back until the game comes out, but when he does I have a gut feeling he's going to be more brutal than ever. There's good news though, he's worked himself into a corner, if he buys the game and criticizes it, he compromised his ideals and gave money to EA, but if he doesn't buy it, he can't properly criticize it. He could pirate the game I suppose, but if he does he'll be perma banned from this site if he admits it. Yeah, this guy isn't exactly Patton.

At least the mods finally suspended him. I thought they were turning a bit blind for not seeing all the insults he has been throwing for the past couple of days.

 

[JamesStone]

This thread has created some of the best Mass Effect related pics/captions I've seen. I love it! Anyway I suppose it's all been said, and Zeel is gone, which is sad because I wanted to ask his/her proof that the Prothean is not in the game without DLC. My favorite thing I've seen on here is "burden of proof is on the accuser" so Zeed's accusations are groundless without proof that the Prothean is not in the game at all without DLC. Anyway, this has certainly been entertaining.

If you had asked him that question the response would've been along the lines of:

"THE LEAKS! THE LEAKS IN NOVMEMBER MENTIONED A PROTHEAN AND BECAUSE THE DLC HAS A PROTHEAN THAT MEANS THEY REMOVED IT FROM THE GAME BECAUSE I SAID SO! YOU'RE STUPID! ADMIT IT! ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!ADMIT IT!!!!"

Or something like that. Seriously though, many people asked him for his proof and he just kept harping on about that damn plot leak.

He actually used the words admit it in one of his posts. He said, and I quote "admit it admit it admit it admit it."

 

[JamesStone]

Zeel actually wrote about us in his blog!

I'm so happy!

Zeel has a blog? OK, I totally need to check that out! Can you give me a link?

 

[Richardplex]

Zeel actually wrote about us in his blog!

I'm so happy!

Zeel has a blog? OK, I totally need to check that out! Can you give me a link?

http://xkingxzeel.blogspot.co.nz/?zx=7f911fabaf86c089

Page 22 was the greatest page ever.

God, he wrote about us in his blog, brings tears to my ears. No greater honour.

 

[Richardplex]

So it looks like Zeel only got a 14 day suspension. Only 14 days mods? Really?

Don't worry, he'll be back in time to tell us how bad ME3 is, and how stupid we all are.

He'll have one more dance before the permaban.

If it isn't a duet with EternalNothingness I am going to be so disappointed.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

So it looks like Zeel only got a 14 day suspension. Only 14 days mods? Really?

Don't worry, he'll be back in time to tell us how bad ME3 is, and how stupid we all are.

He'll have one more dance before the permaban.

If it isn't a duet with EternalNothingness I am going to be so disappointed.

It will be a battle for the ages, so epic in it's scale, that this world and all other possible worlds will be torn asunder, the very fabric of time itself will collapse, and all shall reside in a dark oblivion.