Bioware forums explode as Mass Effect 3 ending details are leaked. *MINOR SPOILERS*

[boag]

My problem isn't with the endings themselves, but more the fact that your choices in the first two games seem to have little effect on the endings in the third game.

I completely agree with you and I in fact wrote a whole lot about this fact in the other thread about endings and such.


I was misguided into thinking my choices would have a pay off with the 3rd game, they dont, they just shift the varying degrees of the stock ending.

Spoiler

by stock ending I mean, Galactic Civilization comes to a halt, because the Relays get fucked over no matter what ending you get

 

[TheRealJLars]

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If the leaks are true, and I do everything right in the game and get the TANG ending, then my crew is stuck on Gilligans Island and the Doctor and Mary Anne Die.

That is not a very satisfactory ending for me, specially if I wanted to Romance the Doctor or Mary Anne, Yes this about Space Waifus/Husbandos, Yes I understand its irrational, No I am not going to calm down.

It's a legitimate enough reason for me, irrational as it may be. I was expecting Space Waifus just as much as the next guy.

If Mass Effect were more prone to self-parody than it is, the thought of a Mass Effect version of Gilligan's Island with the remaining crew would be one of the most ridiculous and hilarious things I've ever heard. But clearly it's not.

My guess is that there's a catch somewhere, where we get some sort of real romance closure prior to the Titanic sinking. But that's probably either a given or painfully optimistic.

 

[Kahunaburger]

My problem isn't with the endings themselves, but more the fact that your choices in the first two games seem to have little effect on the endings in the third game.

To be fair, it's a modern bioware game. Those aren't exactly known for C&C.

 

[Animyr]

I really want to rush over there and see what's happening; fanrage is always fun.But I don't want it to be spoiled. Can someone tell me;

Is the rage mainly about the lack of a super happy ending?
Are bittersweet endings possible? In many ways those are my favorite types of endings.
Are there giant plot holes involved?
Is some sort of bad plot device/trope used?
In what way do your "choices not matter?" In the linear story sense, in the cameo-only sense, etc?

Be vague please. Thanks!

 

[Gone Rampant]

About 75% focused closer to Resistance.

 

[Aerosteam]

Awesome. Mass Effect 3 will probably be my personal game of the year. Not only has it angered many, many people, but it's also not afraid of having a depressing ending, which is my favourate kind of ending.

To be honest, I was expecting Shepard rallying all the different species and their armies and fighting back, finding a deus ex machina which destroys all the reapers, Shepard lives the rest of his life with who ever he had sex with, The End. A fairly shit The End.

Also, it's nice reading all the thread replies in the first page and not seeing a single spoiler. And no, I'm not reading what ever links take me to BioWare's forums.

I'm thrilled actually! I intend to sacrifice my Shepard anyway. A proper story ends with the main character's death.

FUCK.

Do you know how easy it is to read something you don't want? Fairly. That's the answer.

I just read your post and now you just spoiled a large chunk of the ending for me.

Thanks, Sir Spoil-a-lot of Endington.

If you really cared about avoiding spoilers then maybe clicking a thread with a spoiler warning right there in the title wasn't your greatest move

I assumed there will be spoiler tags and links to another website where the spoilers actually are, but instead someone decided to make their entire post which was a few places before mine a single major spoiler. I'd say it was his fault. =/

 

[Nimcha]

My problem isn't with the endings themselves, but more the fact that your choices in the first two games seem to have little effect on the endings in the third game.

Ehh, there seem to be multiple endings. So that's just blatantly untrue.

Besides, if there was a set of choices that would make for a happy ending then any other set of choices would be perceived as bad. Which is pretty much against the philosophy of the whole game.

 

[Gone Rampant]

I really want to rush over there and see what's happening; fanrage is always fun.But I don't want it to be spoiled. Can someone tell me;

Is the rage mainly about the lack of a super happy ending?
Are bittersweet endings possible? In many ways those are my favorite types of endings.
Are there giant plot holes involved?
Is some sort of bad plot device/trope used?
In what way do your "choices not matter?" In the linear story sense, in the cameo-only sense, etc?

Be vague please. Thanks!

Um, in order:

Yes.
So many of them, appearantly.
Not as far as I can tell.
Aside from the one seen in the Mars footage? No.
Something in the middle.

I should point out, that chances are most of this is coming from someone who got a copy of the leaked script from the scandal a few months ago and/or is making shit up.

 

[Akarezik]

After thinking about this overnight, something occurred to me. Isn't there some kind of post-game where you go around finishing all the stuff you missed? If that's so, is it the DA:O kind that zaps you back in time to before the PoNR, or like ME2's where you play after the final showdown?

 

[boag]

it's a modern bioware game. Those aren't exactly known for C&C.

And teh Old Republic Was?

or lets just jump back further in time, BALDURS GATE?

This modern Bioware card people keep playing is bullshit, Bioware has not declined at all, its always had the same rehashed cliches and the same contrived endings.

 

[Saltychipmunk]

My problem isn't with the endings themselves, but more the fact that your choices in the first two games seem to have little effect on the endings in the third game.

well consider how much time and resources it would take to make it so those choices mattered.
considering every choice would make the complexity of the game grow exponentially. there is point where you just have to stop.

As for the endings
Why is anyone surprised?

the reapers were galaxy murdering machines of death that have successfully erased ALL life in the ME universe SEVERAL TIMES. A single reaper in Me one completely demolished fleets of ships before it died.



as soon as I finished ME I guessed that those would be the endings. except for the Normandy thing .. that was lame.

 

[Animyr]

I should point out, that chances are most of this is coming from someone who got a copy of the leaked script from the scandal a few months ago and/or is making shit up.

But appearantly everyone's still up in arms, from what I hear. Is that explanation discredited or just not well known?

Huh. I've always had faith in ME games and it's a shame this one appearantly has problems, but in truth it doesn't shock me too much. As long as I can get some good story moments I can probably forgive the linearity. Oh, is it linear in the ME2 sense? Better or worse?

Now...should I kill off shepard, or Tali? Choices choices.

 

[boag]

My problem isn't with the endings themselves, but more the fact that your choices in the first two games seem to have little effect on the endings in the third game.

well consider how much time and resources it would take to make it so those choices mattered.

X < Y= Sad End

X = Y = ok End

X > Y = Awesome End

X Being the Galactic readiness points.

Also your argument is flawed in the essence that most of your choices will be presented in a little ending sequence, yet the one big prerogative about the state of the Galatic Civilization is something that will not change no matter what choices you make.

 

[Kahunaburger]

it's a modern bioware game. Those aren't exactly known for C&C.

And teh Old Republic Was?

or lets just jump back further in time, BALDURS GATE?

This modern Bioware card people keep playing is bullshit, Bioware has not declined at all, its always had the same rehashed cliches and the same contrived endings.

Does modern Bio having little to no major C&C preclude old Bio having the same?

 

[boag]

it's a modern bioware game. Those aren't exactly known for C&C.

And teh Old Republic Was?

or lets just jump back further in time, BALDURS GATE?

This modern Bioware card people keep playing is bullshit, Bioware has not declined at all, its always had the same rehashed cliches and the same contrived endings.

Does modern Bio having little to no major C&C preclude old Bio having the same?

It doesnt, but the way you frame it, it implies that you think the old Bioware was better than the new Bioware, which is a blatant lie, they havent changed at all.

 

[Kahunaburger]

it's a modern bioware game. Those aren't exactly known for C&C.

And teh Old Republic Was?

or lets just jump back further in time, BALDURS GATE?

This modern Bioware card people keep playing is bullshit, Bioware has not declined at all, its always had the same rehashed cliches and the same contrived endings.

Does modern Bio having little to no major C&C preclude old Bio having the same?

It doesnt, but the way you frame it, it implies that you think the old Bioware was better than the new Bioware, which is a blatant lie, they havent changed at all.

I wouldn't go that far haha. Completely different target audience, many different people working on the projects, and so on. Declined? Debatable. Different? Absolutely.

 

[boag]

it's a modern bioware game. Those aren't exactly known for C&C.

And teh Old Republic Was?

or lets just jump back further in time, BALDURS GATE?

This modern Bioware card people keep playing is bullshit, Bioware has not declined at all, its always had the same rehashed cliches and the same contrived endings.

Does modern Bio having little to no major C&C preclude old Bio having the same?

It doesnt, but the way you frame it, it implies that you think the old Bioware was better than the new Bioware, which is a blatant lie, they havent changed at all.

I wouldn't go that far haha. Completely different target audience, many different people working on the projects, and so on. Declined? Debatable. Different? Absolutely.

If we are to reference Story, which at one Point was supposedly held by Fans as Biowares STRONG POINT, then there has been no change.

IF we are going by Gameplay, I must say ME2 was an Improvement over ME1.

 

[Olivia Faraday]

"BAAAWWWWW! I can't ride off into the sunset with my space waifu!"

This is my favourite comment.

I'm a huge Bioware fan. I even loved DA2. And I'm so pumped for this ending and the lack of an easy way out that I could pee my pants.

I appreciate how Bioware doesn't give a sweet fuck. If they go down, they'll be doing it with twin middle fingers held proudly in the air, blowing raspberries. Gotta respect those balls.

 

[Thoric485]

I'm going to laugh so hard when they release extra endings as DLC.

 

[Rinshan Kaihou]

I'm going to laugh so hard when they release extra endings as DLC.

I would gladly pay for a "happy" ending. =|