Bioware : No, EA Isn't pulling our Strings.

[Versuvius]

No interest in Biowares attempt at action games. Make another Neverwinter Nights game using 3.5 without turning it into a Shiftest like Daggerdale and you can TAKE MY MONEY RIGHT NOW.

Anything else?

 

[bakan]

This is even worse. They admit to to be themselves responsable for their change from respectable rpg developers, to the creators of hollywood action movies, disguised as rpgs.

I don't think that's fair. Dragon Age and Mass Effect are both exceptional RPG's, but each has a different way of approaching the genre. Dragon Age is a more traditional RPG, while Mass Effect is a hybrid of RPG and TPS. Neither genre is more "valid" than the other.

He obviously meant the latest installations of their trademarks (DA-2 and ME-2)

 

[Smooth Operator]

Hilarious
You know what he isn't allowed to say... anything bad about EA, that would make his statements just a little biased.

Seems EA is taking notes from Activision's "tell them we aren't that evil" campaign.

 

[Da Orky Man]

This is even worse. They admit to to be themselves responsable for their change from respectable rpg developers, to the creators of hollywood action movies, disguised as rpgs.

Since they turned into 30-hour, replayable, multi-choice epics, I'm happy the way it turned out.

 

[Nicolairigel]

At this point, I don't Really give a crap if they are "controlled" by EA or not as long as the games they are putting out are good. Ive never played dragon age or dragon age 2, but I loved both Mass effect games to death. I'm sorry, the argument "mass effect 2 is and mass effect 3 will not be good gamees because they are not traditional rpgs" to be kind of bs.

 

[lord.jeff]

It still surprises me how much bad blood there is for Bioware doing hybrid RPGs instead of only doing traditional ones.

 

[Susurrus]

It still surprises me how much bad blood there is for Bioware doing hybrid RPGs instead of only doing traditional ones.

I'm not sure that there is, necessarily. It's more that the games are inferior.

I've not actually played Dragon Age 2, but I found the demo boring.. It took me 3 attempts to complete it. I was playing the demo to make a choice between a game I really wanted (DA2), and a game I was less bothered about, when i needed something to play. And I bought neither...

 

[Bebus]

But, Bioware, that means DA2 was all your fault...

*cries*

 

[Susurrus]

And: Whatever you think about the various merits of their games, Bioware have ALWAYS put a lot of love and time into them. Dragon Age 1 was in development for like 6 years.

And then Dragon Age 2 comes out less than a yr after DA1 is all wrapped up? They've moved to a much more money-churn cycle, at the expense of depth and quality (they even admitted that re-using areas was because they were rushed).

If that's not EA's fault, then Bioware have changed up their development cycle, and it's totally motivated by profit, rather than quality and profit..

 

[Twilight_guy]

Yes because Bioware is a golden god and EA is the devil. Brilliant job reducing the two companies down into paper thin stereotypes guys.

I think its funny that people hate EA so much that Bioware has to publicly distance themselves from their publisher like this. Its like singers saying that a company publishes their records but other then that they have no affiliation. This is just silly, EA needs to change their name and start fresh.

 

[Beryl77]

So that means Bioware is directly responsible for that abomination that was named DA2. Well it's good to know, who I have to blam for that.
Although I still think EA made them hurry so much with DA2.

 

[Findlebob]

So they thought it was a good idea to include muliplayer. They should have kept their mouth shut.

 

[Lordmarkus]

It's interesting that one game can make such a revelation in people's minds. Before Dragon Age 2 they were one of the most beloved developers in the industry and suddenly they seem to be hated everywhere on the internet. I'll admit that I'm one of those doing the raging because of BioWares recent obsession of blood, tits, asses, cutscenes and "press one button to let the game do all the hard work" coupled with "We're making games that everyone will like!".

Let's see it from the bright side, Mass Effect 3 was delayed (hopefully for quality reasons) and now that The Old Republic is scheduled for release, Bioware's good writers can be deployed elsewhere.

 

[Susurrus]

Unconvinced about the intrinsic quality of ToR, too, but that's another story.

The other thing is: Didn't the lead designer leave in the midst of DA2's development?
Artistic differences perhaps, but if that doesn't smack of a change in the design culture, I'd be very surprised.

 

[Da Orky Man]

This is even worse. They admit to to be themselves responsable for their change from respectable rpg developers, to the creators of hollywood action movies, disguised as rpgs.

Since they turned into 30-hour, replayable, multi-choice epics, I'm happy the way it turned out.

I don't think you understand what an epic is.

Well, the classical definition of "epic" would be along the lines of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Used to describe a poem melded into a story. Both the Illiad and the Oddyssey count as epics.
However, the more modern definition is much more flexible. The LotR trilogy is often described as epic, a trio of films based around a single event, an "epic" journey. Under this description, I would place Mass Effect at least.

 

[GeorgW]

So, what you're saying is that not only are EA evil, which we all already knew, but now we can't even blame them for Bioware? That Bioware, one of the greatest devs of all time, are responsible for their own decline in quality? That's just sad...
Our only hope is that all their talent has been occupied with TOR.