Bioware : No, EA Isn't pulling our Strings.

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cookyy2k

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JustaGigolo said:
So instead of us blaming EA for all their horrible decisions lately, they want us to blame them?

Bioware, make some sense.
Maybe they want to seem as masters of their own destiny.

Guys who suffer domestic abuse rarely come forwards, maybe this is just bioware's pride coming through.

They would rather be blamed for the drop in game quality than appear weak and abused by EA.
 

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I actually talked to Brent Knowles, the Senior Designer of Origins via Empire Avenue. I asked him about why he left, he said after 4 years of making Origins he was tired, when he heard they wanted to make a more action oriented sequel, he left. He left EA out of the conversation though...
 

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Susurrus said:
The other thing is: Didn't the lead designer leave in the midst of DA2's development?
Artistic differences perhaps, but if that doesn't smack of a change in the design culture, I'd be very surprised.
That's a good question, has anyone compare and contrasted the credits list between the two games?
 

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So basically, Bioware is saying "Don't blame JUST US when TOR and ME3 are shite! Blame EA too!"
 

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No_Remainders said:
So, in other words, Bioware, it was your decision to have an online pass for the multiplayer of Mass Effect 3 (a game which shouldn't have multiplayer in the first place)?

Go away before you disappoint me any more. -.-
Whilst I agree with you to an extent, we have to remember that no one wanted Multiplayer in Assassin's Creed, and it turned out for me to be one of the best multiplayer experiences i've ever played.

You never know, ME3's "multiplayer" (not sure it's even been confirmed yet) could be complete awesomeness.
 

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so bioware is trying to tell me that the people footing the bill don't really want anything to say about the final product which is supposed to make them money? sorry but i'm not buying it. they may not have as much of a stranglehold on the creative process that some people think but they are certainly always in the ear of the games directors trying to ensure a good ROI.
 

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Eh, I don't really care that EA and Bioware work together now, as long as Bioware remains true on the course of the games I've come to enjoy from them so far (KotOR, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, etc). So far, save perhaps Dragon Age II to some extent, they haven't disappointed me. Although, let's be honest, it's primarily EA whom is forcing Bioware into the constraints they have demonstrated with Dragon Age II as of recent. EA just wants to cover their ass with the body shield of one of their subordinate companies.

..But they had damned well better make Mass Effect 3 one hell of a send-off for the trilogy, damn it!
 

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SidingWithTheEnemy said:
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Elmoth said:
This is even worse. They admit to to be themselves responsable for their change from respectable rpg developers, to the creators of hollywood action movies, disguised as rpgs.
Since they turned into 30-hour, replayable, multi-choice epics, I'm happy the way it turned out.
I don't think you understand what an epic is.
I don´t think you understand what opinions are.
I don't think I understand anything of what you mean.

For the LOVE of whatever entities you believe in, please just F*CKING stop TO overuse THAT motherf*cking QUOTE Button if you want other users to actively follow your posted comments. Why isn't there some rule explaining how to use that gorram QUOTE button appropriately. You are quoting more than you actually write for yourself. That's you know... but I digress...

back on Topic:
Maybe some of you made a mistake in the past. Did you get a second chance?
Well, let's see if Bioware gets its second chance as siding with EA was like your neighbor sleeping with your wife kind of bad idea thing.
Just so we're all on the same page here...

An epic is a long poem, typically one derived from ancient oral tradition, narrating the deeds and adventures of heroic or legendary figures or the history of a nation.

Good, now that that's settled, what were we talking about?
[small]runs and hides from SidingWithTheEnemy[/small]
 

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No_Remainders said:
So, in other words, Bioware, it was your decision to have an online pass for the multiplayer of Mass Effect 3 (a game which shouldn't have multiplayer in the first place)?

Go away before you disappoint me any more. -.-
What exactly, if I may ask, will multiplayer do to ruin the single player?
 

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That's quite alright, Bioware; I was blaming you for Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 from the start.
 

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Anti Nudist Cupcake said:
No_Remainders said:
So, in other words, Bioware, it was your decision to have an online pass for the multiplayer of Mass Effect 3 (a game which shouldn't have multiplayer in the first place)?

Go away before you disappoint me any more. -.-
What exactly, if I may ask, will multiplayer do to ruin the single player?
They don't have unlimited resources. Whatever budget is being used for the multiplayer could very well be put towards bettering the single player game.
 

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No_Remainders said:
Anti Nudist Cupcake said:
No_Remainders said:
So, in other words, Bioware, it was your decision to have an online pass for the multiplayer of Mass Effect 3 (a game which shouldn't have multiplayer in the first place)?

Go away before you disappoint me any more. -.-
What exactly, if I may ask, will multiplayer do to ruin the single player?
They don't have unlimited resources. Whatever budget is being used for the multiplayer could very well be put towards bettering the single player game.
As I understand it they said they were going to make the single player shorter than all the other mass effect games anyway. I would think that would give them an opening to work on multiplayer if they wanted to but it could also just mean that although the single player is shorter, they are putting ALLOT more effort into making it awesome than in the previous games, so much more effort in fact that it would still take up the effort that the whole team would have spent making it longer. On the other hand though bioware has reported that if they were to put in multiplayer it would have to fit in seamlessly and not just be a thrown in feature, this kind of attitude would also indicate that although they might add multiplayer they would also ensure that the single player campaign stays great.

^^^ Most of this is just me thinking out loud and not really a proper response.
 

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Reading all these threads, I finally get it (well, by "reading", I mean skimming and by all, I mean "some of"). It is now officially "cool" to hate on Bioware on the internet.* I suppose I better drop everything and join in, because if there's one thing I fear more than anything, it's not appearing "cool" on the internet.


*at least until so many people hate them that you will actually seem cooler if you like them. I'll give it until maybe a week or so after the release of ME3.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Lucyfer86 said:
Elmoth said:
This is even worse. They admit to to be themselves responsable for their change from respectable rpg developers, to the creators of hollywood action movies, disguised as rpgs.
Which are actually way better than "traditional" RPG's.
Says someone who has never played a traditional RPG past the first chapter.

(I can tell.)
Either trollin', or never heard thing called opinion. You sir, enjoy your ignorance.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Lucyfer86 said:
Elmoth said:
This is even worse. They admit to to be themselves responsable for their change from respectable rpg developers, to the creators of hollywood action movies, disguised as rpgs.
Which are actually way better than "traditional" RPG's.
Says someone who has never played a traditional RPG past the first chapter.

(I can tell.)
You do know that that post is a couple of months old right? Also ever hear of personal tastes?