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Rokar333

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hagaya said:
Rokar333 said:
And the Escapist Community is already bitching on page 1, no surprise. It is almost laughable how the simplest of concepts escape you retards.

Fucking pricks.
Welcome to the Escapist; this comment is wrong. Trust me.

It's a matter of principle: we figured it out. We're concentrating on the subject at hand; he asked us what he should do, and why his parents are acting as they did. We gave him the answer he wanted. While there are some good points you've brought up in your post, there is much we already understand that you state in a rather impolite manner. I reiterate; never call the Escapist Community retarded.

I probably didn't make it clear that I didn't mean the whole community. The people who that comment replied to probably wont see it anyway. You know:

The people who look for new comments, take a snipe at the OP, then never look at the thread again, and finally repeat.

It's these people, who make inflammatory comments then leave when the OP is trying to explain themselves (this case in edit form) while trying to maintain a moral high ground. These people bug the fuck out of me. You want me care to about your opinion on a matter, make more than one post showing that you are interested in discussion, instead of OP sniping.

I guess that's what I really wanted to say: OP sniping bugs the fuck out of me.
 

lizards

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its post like these that make me happy that i grew up in a rich household and even when i was very young (like 13 or 14 years old young) me and my parents would watch stuff that was rated R together or even let me see movies that had porn in them and even encouraged free thinking and disagreeing with them if i thought they were wrong

my parents were cool

ot:well since the whole "you are not a good christian" card was played your fucked, religious people know no logic and cannot be reasoned with

good luck
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Well, taking in that sinced you stormed out and cried, have a good amount of misspellings (Possible typos so i'm gonna let it slide) and lost your cool so quickly, i'll take it that you are either extremely young or extremely young in mind.

You could try talking it out rather than running off and whining on the internet, or you could try getting a job other than lawn mowing (Seeing as people fear your mowing tactics).
Either way you should smooth it out with your parents.
 

Robby Foxfur

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I don't really know how to call this i feel for you but, your parents are clearly mad as a hatter, whenever I hear Christan and to some from of your evil because, i tend to shutter and reach for the ye holy beating stick aka a baseball bat.

I'm just gonna call this as saying your parents need to totally look at there lives and what the choose to believe, but they'd probably call me an evil devil worshiper, myself being a christian.

You can't pick your family but you can make the best out of the bad and if you really need to toss a tantrum over a game then i think you need to look a little harder at how your acting because your kinda bordering on the child demographic that hate, ie the spoiled loud mouth that thinks WWWWAAAAAYYY to much of themselves.
 

lizards

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hagaya said:
Rokar333 said:
And the Escapist Community is already bitching on page 1, no surprise. It is almost laughable how the simplest of concepts escape you retards.

Fucking pricks.
Welcome to the Escapist; this comment is wrong. Trust me.

It's a matter of principle: we figured it out. We're concentrating on the subject at hand; he asked us what he should do, and why his parents are acting as they did. We gave him the answer he wanted. While there are some good points you've brought up in your post, there is much we already understand that you state in a rather impolite manner. I reiterate; never call the Escapist Community retarded.
as it stands yes most people are being pricks right now

yes yes she he or whatever it is asked but look at those comments most are insulting and some flat out offensive and while you may think that its also impolite to say it

edit: and due to the fact that my wrists keep hitting the mouse pad thing that you move with your fingers if you dont have a mouse half of the stuff i typed got typed over so:

while yes the poster was being immature and ungrateful it still is not called for, some of the stuff they are saying
 

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All right, I recently asked my parents for a copy of Assassian's Creed 1 and Batman: Arkham Asylum and a $300 PS3. My parents were very hesitant for AC, noticing the M rating. I explained to them that, 'You do more stealth and unraviling the plot more then you do the killings." to which they completely agreed to try and get for me. They completely understood, and my dad said he'd like to play which never happens. Last time he played a videogame, it was my N64 in 1999!

Today I woke up, showered, got all gussied up for church, and went out for breakfast only to have my parents sitting sternly at the table with a Kmart newspaper ad in front of them. They immediatly bombarded me, accusing me of wanting a M rated game and how I should be ashamed as a Christian. I quickly flipped into the ad and saw a offer for AC2, which cost $60 or $70 or so. I told them directly that AC1 was only $20 right now, this was the second one. They called BS on me, saying they would'nt even consider it now. I remember losing my cool, towering over my dad screaming " YOU HAVE MOVIES THAT CURSE MORE THEN THE FUDGIN' GAME! AND YOU ARE CALLING ME A WORSE CHRISTIAN?!?" My dad promptly yelled back at me, saying that I was going to be punshied for even saying that sentance, and I wasant going to get any food for the day and not get any presents. Not even caring, I stormed to my room and cried. Now they are treating me worse then they normally do, glaring at me and calling me it or thing. So as a logical Escapest member to another, is there any advice one can give me for this? It'll be a great help if you can.

EDIT: I'm sorry, I should have cleared some things up. They had asked me specifically what I wanted for Christmas, and I have no ways of collecting money. No allowence, no job because I'm too young, and I've been around my neighbour hood. Nobody wants me to clean their lawns or anything.
tl;dr at the bottom...

Being a Christian myself and a parent of two 10 and 12 year old boys, I think I have a bit of experience in this department. What many here have said about your parents only needing to give you the bare minimum legally is 100% completely true. Everything else that they give you is out of their own benevolence and because they want to give those things to you.

My boys know the limits and boundaries that they're allowed to have because I've clearly laid it out for them. They know that they have a bed time and that they are responsible for going to bed at that time themselves. They know what is expected of them with school, that they should strive to achieve certain grades. They know that talking in a certain manner is unnacceptable, especially when it comes to disrespect, to myself, my wife or each other.

Now, it unfortunately sounds like your parents are being a bit unreasonable with this, but one thing that I've learned, is that one persons's side is never enough to truly make any judgement. I always try very hard to be fair when I discipline my boys, but quite often, especially in the heat of anger, they feel I'm being unjust. I always tell them why they are being punished, reminding them of the expected behavior, the reasons why the behavior is expected and why the behavior that they showed was unacceptable.

Your parents may have been caught by surprise when they actually did some research on the game or the like and found something they don't like. Once they found that information, they may have felt mislead by your "toning down" of the description. Now, one thing I find interesting, is that on your profile it says that you are around 19 years old. That's quite a stretch to say that, if you are in fact 19, that you can't get a job yourself. I moved out when I was 17 from the same kind of parents you are describing. (they wouldn't let me play Diablo 2 because there were demons and sorcery, :cough: besides the fact that you were FIGHTING AGAINST DIABLO THE LORD OF DESTRUCTION, anyway) You should count yourself lucky that your parents even allow you to have access to the internet, as my boys are very limited in their social networking. (especially because of their age) The online games they play are limited to pre-selected chat, they are not allowed to post on forums and they have very limited use of their cell phone. They have rules, and they obey them or deal with the consequences.

One thing that raises my hackles with my boys above all else is when they lie to me. If I catch them in a lie, which is quite easy to do as they aren't very experienced in it, they bring down much more punishment upon themselves then if they had told the truth to begin with. At times I've even let them off the hook entirely with just a 30 second lecture about what they did and why they shouldn't have, sending them on their merry way when they've flat out told me the truth.

If you parents feel the same way, and felt that they were in essence lied to, if not only mislead, then that could be a big reason why they are acting the way that they are. Now, I don't condone what they're doing with calling you names, completely ignoring you, turning up the TV to quiet you and tearing up your attempts to communicate through other means. That is completely and totally wrong in every way shape and form. Unfortunately, people do stupid things when they are angry or disappointed in someone. I always try my hardest to wait until I've cooled down when my boys have done either of those things to me to assign punishments so that my emotion isn't clouding my judgement.

I would also like to bring to your attention, being a Christian myself, is that the Escapist is not exactly the most reasonable place to bring this kind of situation, especially when religion is involved considering the number of anti-theists here. I'm not surprised with many of the responses you've gotten here, being jaded and cynical as they are. Do you have a youth pastor that you could speak to? Perhaps a peer in the church that you can confide in? Mainly, your parents may just need time to calm down as the feeling of misleading and disappointment is probably just too much right now. It could also depend on what denomination you and your parents are. Some denominations are much more legalistic in their thinking and base their religion on the "rules" of Christianity instead of the love of Christ.

Also, please don't try to take the loss of a "thing" so hard. There will always be other "things" in this life. My youngest is very frugal with his money (they only get allowance for good grades which they get every trimester and instead do chores to earn game time during the week and weekends on their Wii and computer) and can throw quite the tantrum if he doesn't get what he wants. Unfortunately, that selfishness is something my wife and I are trying to break him of. Granted he's only 10 years old and has a lot to learn about life and disappointment, but it's never too young to introduce ways of coping with disappointment to an individual.

All in all, it sounds like both you and your parents are wrong in your own way. Your parents shouldn't be treating you as they are, but I understand that they are probably frustrated, disappointed and flat out angry with you. Though that doesn't justify their actions, it does give some credence to why they feel as they do. You on the other hand, are right that AC isn't that big of a deal, that is of course if you're 19 as your profile says. Heck even if your were a bit younger, I wouldn't really care myself. My kids though, aren't allowed to watch certain things or play certain things. Granted they're quite young and I don't want to have some little punk 10 or 12 year old XBL loudmouth being one of my sons.

Though they have an understanding of fake violence and the like, they still aren't mature enough to really deal with it, and I don't need them being completely desensatized to it by the time they're in their teens. Heck, their grandmother let them watch Child's Play once and the damn movie terrorized my younger for years to where he now sleeps with the covers over his head even though it doesn't scare him anymore. It's become a learned behavior.

Anyway, enough ramblings of an old fart of a gamer. Just know that this isn't the end of the world and though your parents are being unreasonable, give them some time. Also, stop trying to mislead them to further your gains. Flat out tell them next time, it's an assassination game. Yes, there's quite a bit of killing. You actually stalk your prey for quite some time before completing the kill. This is probably where thier disappointment has stemed from. I can see both your points as I've been in both places. (a child who has overbearing parents who blow a "videogame" out of proportion, and a parent who has their child's best interests in mind and wants to protect them and help guide their decisions, as any good parent would)

tl;dr

Both you and your parents have points. Try to be more thorough with your explinations of the game later so that they don't feel mislead. Let your parents cool off so that their reaction to you isn't fueled by disappointment and anger. Responding to your parents in a disrespectful tone will do nothing to help further your argument and will cause them to shut down and enter "I'M THE PARENT AND YOU'RE THE CHILD" mode. Try to find an outside source that doesn't sway one way or the other or get opinions from both viewpoints at least. Lastly, know that it's a video game. More will come. More have gone. You won't die if you don't get to play it, especially since you'll eventually be able to get it with enough time. Lastly, if you really are 19 (as your profile says) you are not too young to go get a job. My first job was at the ripe old age of 14.

(the first thing I did when I moved out was go buy Diablo 2 and play the crap out of it, HA! Take that Mom and Dad! errr...)
 

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Hooded-hyena said:
Internet Kraken said:
Apologize to them and do whatever the fuck they tell you to do. That always has worked fro me when my parents got mad at me. Eventually the tension settles down and you have a chance to calmly talk about it.

But I really don't think you should ask this here. You're probably going to get some "crazy Christians" comments.
They dont give me a chance to apolagize. They turn the TV up to max volume, talk really loud, or if I leave a note shread it. And I proabbly will get some "crazy Christian" comments, but they can fuck off.
From what you've said here, you have been a pretty reasonable kid. You're not looking for gore-tastic games, you haven't snapped at anyone who says you should pay for you own games, and you've made an effort.
Their not allowing you to apologize is a sort of psychological abuse. They are just trying to parent as they know how, so while you should try to not be mad at them, you are not bad, nor wrong, nor a bad Christian. If you have done something wrong that I didn't catch there, then, at the same time, you shouldn't expect instant forgiveness. Its just that both parties in an argument should leave the door open for conflict resolution.
I wouldn't say this about everything, but it seems to me that you know what the right thing to do is, so...
Well, you just to keep your head down, be good, and wait for this to all blow over.
At this point, the PS3 would just be a nice bonus.

Still... If there's someone in your church who would understand your angle, and your parents respect, why not bring this issue to them, but from a "How do I make this up to my parents" angle. If you make it clear that the relationship between you and your parents is more important than video games, things could brighten up more quickly.
 

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Silly christians... Oh yes I did whip out the religous card.
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By golly your parents remind me of my mother (sometimes).

Well I'll be honest, your parents are acting like children.

a REAL parent should not be rejecting their child so much (I am assuming you lied on your age...I do that too sometimes :p ).


I'm not even sure what sparked the freak out, from what I see is that you were asking for the first game, and they thought you were asking for the second... you told them other wise and that the first is 20$ and they freak out on you. The part after when you YELL at your parents is obviously the mistake, as that turns any possible sorting out of the problem meaningless, as it's now a screaming match.

Hrmm.. now what can you do...

Well, here's what you CAN do, but considering how immature your parents are acting it may be tricky.

Get up early, make them breakfast, DON'T try to talk about it then, just try to set up a time to talk about it.

Then talk about it and try to find the route of the problem AND REFRAIN FROM SAYING YOU'RE WRONG, as parents in their minds (especially their crazy christian minds (I KID I KID!)) they are never wrong.

There's maybe a 35% chance it won't work, but it infinetly beats what you're doing now.

*thinks happilly of all of the religion jokes I'm going to squeeze out of this.. :) *
 

lizards

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oliveira8 said:
Rokar333 said:
oliveira8 said:
Sorry but the OP apparently is 19. More than enough age to have a part time job at least.

Unless the Op lied on her profile if...
I'm just going to guess that she lied. It really isn't that hard. The escapist is the only site where I use my real birthday, because it is the only site where I don't get benefits for being over 18. You do possibly have a point. Maybe I did jump the gun in assuming that she lied about her age.

Or, you're right, she needs to get a job, get an apartment and get a life. If you're 19 and you still live with your parents like this, you are a fucking loser. However I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt right now and just assuming that she is lying about her age.
Actually I don't really care if you still live at your parents house at 19 or 24.(30 is kinda pushing...really) Living alone isn't easy and at that age you are probably juggling college and something that resembles to a job.

Unless you have a boy/girlfriend to share a flat or friends. If not...living at your parents house isn't that bad. I miss those days. I didn't have to cook, clean the house, pay bills, know how to work a washing machine, remenber to buy food...regurlaly, buy cloth...


But there is no excuse to be 19 and have NO job! Even cleaning stairs is a job...no excuse.
from what other people have said there is no reason to not use your own date of birth (i used my real one so maybe im biased but whatever) i seriously doubt that she is over 15
 

hagaya

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lizards said:
hagaya said:
Rokar333 said:
And the Escapist Community is already bitching on page 1, no surprise. It is almost laughable how the simplest of concepts escape you retards.

Fucking pricks.
Welcome to the Escapist; this comment is wrong. Trust me.

It's a matter of principle: we figured it out. We're concentrating on the subject at hand; he asked us what he should do, and why his parents are acting as they did. We gave him the answer he wanted. While there are some good points you've brought up in your post, there is much we already understand that you state in a rather impolite manner. I reiterate; never call the Escapist Community retarded.
as it stands yes most people are being pricks right now

yes yes she he or whatever it is asked but look at those comments most are insulting and some flat out offensive and while you may think that its also impolite to say it
You actually put it in a good way. I read the comments over again; after reading "you're 19!" for the umpteenth time, I'd like to revoke my comments, but I still stand by my comments to some extent, just used as a general term for the people posting (including myself)

I think I'm safe in saying this thread may have flown out the window.
 

Colours

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If you are 19, well, need I say anything? Some of the kids at my work are about 15.

Anyway, be nice to your parents, do some chores, and Santa will come give you a pair of socks.
 

Rokar333

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hagaya said:
You actually put it in a good way. I read the comments over again; after reading "you're 19!" for the umpteenth time, I'd like to revoke my comments, but I still stand by my comments to some extent, just used as a general term for the people posting (including myself)

I think I'm safe in saying this thread may have flown out the window.
You were right, I used the wrong choice of words to describe the general Escapist community, but OP snipers in general are still fucking pricks.

EDIT: right above me is another "but you're 19" comment. Unbe-freaking-lievable. If your going to try and op snipe can't people at least go back to unique insults.
 

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They dont give me a chance to apolagize. They turn the TV up to max volume, talk really loud, or if I leave a note shread it.
your parents sound like dicks. You cant talk to people like this. Sorry, wait until can buy it. you already waited a year. You're parents don't trust you to play games and not kill people in real life. they wont even let you apologize for somthing that you should never really need to apologize for
 

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Sightless Wisdom said:
Christianity sickens me. That aside, nothin' you can do. Parents are illogical, but they created you and they feed you, so you pretty much have to take whatever shit they throw at you.
this is comeing from the with a pentagraph as a avitar *facepalm*
 

lacktheknack

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Good God, kid, did you have to play the "they're Christans" card?

And pretend it didn't happen and accept that you AREN'T getting AC1.

You may recover.