Black Ops 2 or Halo 4?

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Dense_Electric

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Halo 4, just for the reason that the gameplay between Halo games has always been at least slightly different (if still pretty similar). Even 3 and ODST, despite running on exactly the same engine, had a bit of a different feel from each other. Compare this to Call of Duty, where every game post-CoD3 has had virtually identical gameplay.
 

RevTibe

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Vrex360 said:
However Halo 4 has broken my heart in so many ways. Having seen some of the footage and heard details about it I can honestly say that it's very far away from the original formula. None of the old charm seems present, I really don't like that they seem to be turning Cortana into a psycho and I SERIOUSLY don't like how the Covenant have somehow returned despite the Elites allying with the humans and all the Prophets being dead. I also am annoyed that the Covenant now appear to just be generic cookie cutter evil alien monsters indistinguishable from the locust or the Ceph or any other evil aliens. In Halo 1, 2 and 3 the Covenant had actually personality and were even humanized to some degree, this is lazy.
Keep in mind that Cortana going crazy's been shadowed since around Halo 2, maybe even a bit earlier. Most of it was in the expanded universe, though. Plus, most signs point to the "Covenant" present in Halo 4 just being Elite/Grunt/Jackal pirates, note how a lot of the Elites don't even have a full suit of armour.

Personally, I prefer the look of Halo 4 since they've been willing to change more things, even though making minimal changes is easier and still guaranteed to sell. A lot of the trailers have an almost Metroid Prime-y feel to them, and since I feel that the MP trilogy's one of the greatest achievements of gaming, I'm obviously pretty on board with the changes :p
 

Vrex360

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Nouw said:
To be fair, it'd be canonically wrong to let Cortana stay sane and not go rampant like most AIs. I'm all for it since it could help characterization of the supposed blank Chief and Cortana herself.[/b]
Hey, I'm all for that. I just don't want to see Cortana made into an evil villain that then has to be killed by the Masterchief. That's all. Seeing Cortana actually overcome her rampancy would make for compelling character development.

I just worry they'll take the easy way out.


Pfheonix said:
And the Elite's I can understand you being pissed by. I am too... Hopefully they do something about that.
Yes, you can probably tell from my avatar where I stand on the importance of Elites in multiplayer. The Elites are what made it interesting and the reason why I stuck with Halo for mutliplayer over all else. I've had to accept compromises along the way, Elites only having five armor permuations in Halo 3 and Elites only being on specific modes in Matchmaking in Halo: Reach. I can accept Elites not being in Matchmaking because you want it to be focussed on the Spartans but for fuck's sake I should still be able to play as them in custom games.


RevTibe said:
Plus, most signs point to the "Covenant" present in Halo 4 just being Elite/Grunt/Jackal pirates, note how a lot of the Elites don't even have a full suit of armour.
Yeah I get that it's a splinter group (called 'the Storm' apparently) that left the Covenant but all the same after all the work Halo 2 and Halo 3 did to humanize the Elites and form an alliance between the Sangheili and the humans it annoys me that Halo 4 leapt at the first chance to make a retcon so that *some* Elites are still 'evul alienz' that can be slaughtered with glee. The Arbiter and his people had really better make some kind of impact in Halo 4's new trilogy, because his story line was what made Halo so compelling to me in the first place and I don't want to see that just pushed under the rug at the first oppurtunity.

As a side note can I just say how much the new looks for the Covenant annoy me? There is no consistency. The Grunts in Halo 1 and 2 were like little amphibian monkeys but then in Halo 3 to Halo: Reach they looked more like large arthropods and now they look like this:
It doesn't even look like the same type of creature!

Then we look at the Elites who look for all the world like Sangheili/Locust hybrids (I'd still play as one given the chance, mind.) They've made it look hideous and monstrous, the Covenant Sangheili roaring into battle is a thing of grace and beauty not monstrousness!

And finally the Jackals... I don't even need to say anything other than that THIS-
-IS NOT A JACKAL!

Granted the aesthetics for Covenant in each Halo game vary slightly but at their core they were always the same basic thing. These redesigns are just insane. And I know I sound anally retentive about it but it still stands, this annoys me. Because these attempts to make the Covenant look monstrous rather than the original art design of basing them on Earth animals really does just feel like an attempt to go the dark and edgy route that other alien shooters go.

Personally, I prefer the look of Halo 4 since they've been willing to change more things, even though making minimal changes is easier and still guaranteed to sell. A lot of the trailers have an almost Metroid Prime-y feel to them, and since I feel that the MP trilogy's one of the greatest achievements of gaming, I'm obviously pretty on board with the changes :p
It's true, there are some cool and interesting elements of Halo 4 that might be worth looking at. However Halo 4 could cure cancer, bring about gender equality, end racism, end poverty, bring about world peace and enter us into a new age of enlightenment but if I can't play as an Elite anywhere in it I'll still be pissed off at it.
 

Knife-28

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Both.

Halo 4 because I am and always will be a large fan of Halo, as well as curious to how 343 handles it, and Black Ops 2 because I'm interested in how Treyarch's mixing up the COD formula for it.
 

aguspal

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Black ops 2. I dont see why not. Halo, never played any of them so I cant say anything about those.


BUT the 1st place goes to Borderlands 2.
 

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Vrex360 said:
So Grunts are now bipedal snapping turtles, Jackals are sharks, and the Elites feet have tripled in size? And they don't even have the sweet sleek helmets that obscure the eyes anymore. It looks like that Elite is wearing a party hat, not a combat rig.
 

WanderingFool

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Dont care for Halo, and Im liking where Black Ops 2 is going. But unless my money situation changes, Borderlands 2 is the only FPS im getting anytime soon.
 

Nouw

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Vrex360 said:
Nouw said:
To be fair, it'd be canonically wrong to let Cortana stay sane and not go rampant like most AIs. I'm all for it since it could help characterization of the supposed blank Chief and Cortana herself.[/b]
Hey, I'm all for that. I just don't want to see Cortana made into an evil villain that then has to be killed by the Masterchief. That's all. Seeing Cortana actually overcome her rampancy would make for compelling character development.

I just worry they'll take the easy way out.
Considering this 343 Industries making the game I highly doubt they'd take the easy way out. They are, after all, responsible for most of the lore.
 

Bindal

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Black Ops 2 seems promising AND Halo 4 is (currently) a 360-exclusive while BO2 is multiplatform, including PC. Meaning I can PLAY BO2 when I want. (Plus, due my job, I get BO2 free anyway)
Beside, I don't play CoD for the MP but for the SP (which was good in BO1) and the Coop. And Zombies is going to be a really big one this time. MP I don't really care about, but the changes they made to it as well the fact that most things that used to be perks are now attachments is interesting.

Of course, if the rumors are true that Halo 4 might come to PC, I'll give it a try (despite the fact that we're missing the good ones, Reach and CEA, on PC and 3 never made it either, only 1 and 2.) but I doubt it. If its true, I won't leave the Firefight mode. :p
 

Sight Unseen

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None of the above. the only games I'm really looking forward to are AC3, Bioshock Infinite, and the expansion to Trine 2.