Black Ops is ok, but RDR isn't?!

[XT inc]

maybe there's more sexuality in RDR? I haven't played it yet but as a man of the internets who has seen some things, grown desensitized and generally not phased by much I gotta say somethings in black ops were fucking brutal and no way meant for the lil squeekers on xbox live.
Like when you slit that dudes throat wide open, or when you are torturing the guy and have to control shoving wads of glass into his mouth and then uppercutting his jaw so his teeth break and shatter the glass into his mouth

I mean really when I was a kid m rated games were fluff, how sexual or violent could you get in doom era? duke 3d had some titties but that shit's laughable at best. I got told no went I wanted golden eye, had to trick my grandmother to buy it for me, but really totally different worlds by leaps and bounds.

 

[Look-a-Hill]

Maybe the woman just has taste.

 

[Mercsenary]

I overheard a very odd thing today in GAME store today, while browsing through the pre-owned games i heard a youngish lad ask his mum if he could buy Red Dead Redemption. Obviously he was under-age and i was kinda shocked to hear the mum say "No, its too old for you, your 11". I started to cheer as i thought that maybe, just maybe some parents actually use age ratings and that things like California and Jack Thompson can shut up and jump in some form of toxic death pit.

However what came next was quite odd, the 11 year old replied "I know, but you still bought me Black Ops" to which she replied with "Yeah, but that's different". That sentence has kinda stuck with me now, how on earth is it different?! Both are rated as 18 games due to graphic violence, swears and other stuff, how can one be "different". I thought it could be done due to popularity and advertisement but both are the same. RDR has won loads of GOTYs, had loads of adverts here in UK and was top of the charts at one point i believe. Its the same for Black Ops (minus the GOTYs THANK GOD)So i ask you, the smart otters of The Escapist to help me make sense of this quite weird statement, is there some profound answer or is this women just an idiot.

But there are WHORES IN RDR. WHORES. WHY WONT ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!


Heh. Black Ops: Your character puts glass into a guys mouth. And then punches him. But somehow WHORES OMG.


But yeah woman is not exactly all that smart in this subject.

 

[HandsomeZer0]

One teaches you how to go online, teabag corpses and swear at people you've never met.
The other teaches you.... Well i'm not sure what RDR teaches. Most people are uninformed.
& its Rockstar, creators of fantastic controversies such as Bully, Manhunt and GTA.

 

[mitchell271]

when this happens you hope that you work at the store that this happened at. i did.

i worked cash. i flipped out on people when they were with a little kid and the kid was the one holding the game. this happened on multiple occasions so that we were forced to ask who the game was being bought for (yes!) by the manager

 

[Kadoodle]

Long explanation:

Red Dead Redemption has prostitution (never mind Marston the infuriatingly faithful husband), alcoholism, swearing, etc. Most Western games and movies feature outlaws as the protagonist. This being a largely Anglo-Saxon nation with largely Anglo-Saxon values, pre-marital or extra-marital sex, substance abuse, and lawlessness is taboo; violence can be used for good or evil, but the others are considered by this invisible code of ethics as morally wrong 100% of the time.

Simple explanation:

She's a fuckwit.

You couldn't have put it better. Still, I understand her reaction if the kid is only 11, there are STRONG sexual themes in that game. Maybe once he's 13; sexual themes are better understood once a kid actually goes through a detailed health class.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

RDR tho is definitely more mature. You're not going to see a prostitute get stabbed to death by a drunkard in Black Ops, for example.

But that part about shoving broken glass into another persons mouth and then beating him up is tamer than a prostitute getting stabbed?

Personally, I think torture is worse than a prostitute getting stabbed to death. A stabbing might be murder, yes bit it doesn't have to be sadistic in nature. But shoving broken glass into a persons mouth in order to make a beating more painful certainly is.

I mean, compare the teethshattering curb stomp that Edward Norton's character does in American History X with the slapstick violence of your average Jackie Chan movie. Which kind is more sadistic and cruel?

 

[LaMer]

RDR had a sex scene, and a horse penis. Blood was limited to some red mist every now and then. Black Ops had far worse violence. You decapitate a teenager for God's sake. The parent probably just saw "Strong Sexual Content" on the box and denied the child the game for that reason alone. She's still dumb though, because BlOps is one of the most graphic games to come out this decade.

 

[M4yce]

Simple as long as it's a "military game" parents will buy anything for they're kids under that idea.

It's like they think it's okay because they feel it's patriotic or something...

 

[fulano]

Most parents are fucking stupid. On this level, give it no further thought.

Dumb comment? Yes.

Seriously, there could've been a crapload of different reasons the mother chose to buy her son a violent Mature game but not another. Saying something like "Most parents are fucking stupid" makes you seem childish.

 

[wrightguy0]

Actually, she was right, RD:R is a game that's beyond an 11 year old, but only because the story is darker, more involved and the game is generally more "grown up" than that thing black ops has, but despite everything i just said, i would still recommend RDR over Black ops because of the way RDR handles it's subject matter

 

[Benny Blanco]

Wow, I need to get out more... I thought this was a post about the Retail Distribution Review...

Ignore me and get back to whatever you were doing.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

Basically, parents are stupid. Odds are, all of the other kids have Black Ops, and little Jimmy wanted it to. Mom had heard about this Call of the Duty, and figured since it was so popular, her son could play it. It is much more likely that she would have heard about COD than RDR.

 

[Reaper195]

Because it's a Rockstar game. Thank's to Jack Thompson people tend to see Rockstar as more Adult games than others.

This. Parents these days follow the most basic of video game related news instead of actually paying attention to it and realise it's all bollocks.

 

[John P. Hackworth]

Most parents are fucking stupid. On this level, give it no further thought.

This.
I mean... I'm not even sure what else to say other than what this guy said. >_>

This is why the California law was right.

 

[viranimus]

I dont think its some of the silly notions like its by rockstar, or because of Jack thompson. Honestly for some reason if it has alignment with the military its seen as acceptable for some bizarre reason.

Almost as if there is some sort of subliminal messages that tell parents "Yes this is a recruiting tool for future generations and if you dont buy it your letting the terrorists win because you dont support our troops and you hate amerikuh."

Cant really do that with playing cowboys and indians the same way.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

Because it's a Rockstar game. Thank's to Jack Thompson people tend to see Rockstar as more Adult games than others.

What ever happened to that nutjub anyway?

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